Seasonic G-750 vs. Seasonic SS-760XP

[Hardball]

I am looking to complete a build and I have been giving the SS-760XP serious consideration. Is the SS-760XP that much better than the G-750? I realize that it is Platinum and fully modular and has a better fan, but is it that much better to justify the price difference between the two ($170 versus $100 currently on Newegg for the G-750)?

The build will consist of:
Asus P8Z77 V-Pro
3570k (look to OC to 4.0-4.5)
Swiftech H220
Samsung SSD
Mechanical drive
Sound card
Optical drive
Graphics card later (GTX770 or 780, or R280X/290/290X) on board video for now

Thanks

 

[Liquid_Static]

No, definitely not.

 

[lehtv]

The only differences worth noting are:

1) 7 year warranty vs 5 year warranty
2) fully modular vs semi modular
3) Platinum vs Gold efficiency
4) Semi-passive Sanyo Denki fan versus always spinning ADDA fan

Now, what are these worth? I'd say the extra warranty is worth maybe $10. Personally, I prefer semi modular over fully modular, and even if I preferred fully modular, I wouldn't pay more than $5 extra for it. The 1% higher efficiency is not going to impact your electricity bill significantly enough to matter, with your rig you might save a dollar or two per year, that's about it. So let's be generous and say it's worth $10, assuming average cost of electricity. And finally, the semi passive fan control is not worth anything because the G series is extremely quiet (read: I've never heard my G-650 and my case fans are 400 RPM). The Sanyo Denki fan may be better, perhaps I'd pay $2-3 extra just for that. In total, based on these differences the Platinum unit is worth less than $30 extra, and that's assuming you prefer full modularity.

The Seasonic G-750 currently also has $20 off via mail-in-rebate, making it $80 AR AP... an absolute steal. Grab it.

 

[mindbomb]

I think you should look into the 660w platinum. If you don't ever plan on using crossfire or sli, it is basically impossible to use more than 660w. So you would benefit more from increased efficiency/acoustics/cabling than more power.

You might also want to look at rosewill platinum models if price is a concern.

 

[philipma1957]

the 760 plat is far better then the gold. I own about 10 seasonics for coin mining and the 760 plat along with the 1000 watt plat are the best two I own.


that is quality and performance. as deciding factors.

not price


at 170 vs 100 get the cheaper one.

 

[Hardball]

philipma1957--

Do you own the Seasonic G-750 gold among the Seasonics you have? What has been your experience with it? I have no doubt that the 760 platinum is the better of the two, but isn't the G-750 gold just a slight step down in quality/performance in comparison, especially at the current prices of 170 vs 100?

 

[philipma1957]

philipma1957--

Do you own the Seasonic G-750 gold among the Seasonics you have? What has been your experience with it? I have no doubt that the 760 platinum is the better of the two, but isn't the G-750 gold just a slight step down in quality/performance in comparison, especially at the current prices of 170 vs 100?

Well I mine coins more then anything else. The plat allows me to come closer to overloading the psu then the gold. But my power draw is constant no up and down like a gamer.

I can pull 610 watts 24/7/365 on the plat 760

that is 1 and 1/2 antminer s-1s so 2 plats will do 3 s-1s on over clock.

I got the plats cheap on rebate deals. under 100 bucks each.

if I ran the golds I can't run 1 1/2 at 610 watts it pulls 636 watts and after a day they beep (overload warning)

So 2 plats will do 3 antminer s-1's over clocked to 200gh each. and pull 610+610 watts

2 golds will do 3 antminer s-1's normal clock only 180gh each. and pull 590 + 590 watts


so 600 gh 1220 watts vs 540gh at 1180 watts makes the plats better even at the no sale price.

If you game the gold is the better deal since high steady load is not what you do.

The op should look for a corsair on sale

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139011

I would argue this is better it is an 850 watt 119 after prom code and rebate.
and I want to say it is the same as the 850 watt seasonic.

not sure about that maybe someone else can confirm that.

found a review

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=153

more over head might be better then the seasonic at 100 bucks.

I had 1 bad gold seasonic.
never had a bad plat seasonic

 

[mindbomb]

I still find the suggestions in this thread bizarre. It seems we're all gonna ignore the fact that 750w is overkill for the system that was described, and paying for that wattage is far more wasteful than paying for extra psu quality.

 

[philipma1957]

I still find the suggestions in this thread bizarre. It seems we're all gonna ignore the fact that 750w is overkill for the system that was described, and paying for that wattage is far more wasteful than paying for extra psu quality.

a 290x can pull 300 watts

a 3570k can pull 70 watts

a swiftech h220 can pull 10 watts

a samsung ssd can pull 5 watts only on a really long write.

the hdd and the sound card and lastly the optical drive will never do more then 3 watts.

so he would be able to squeak by with a good 600 watt supply.

But in the spirit of his question of which 750 watt supply he should pick my 850watt suggestion makes sense and allows for a second gpu of high quality in the future.

I do not tell people to get the exact max wattage for psu's need for the specs of a build unless that is the question asked.

If he wanted to get the best deal for his system using the 290x as his gpu.

I can tell you the 290x can beat down many 600 and 650 watt psu's i have done this more then once to decent 600 and 650 watt psu's.

antec ew 650 watt plat will not run a 290x with an overclocked cpu for long periods of time . been there done that.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371056

the evga supernova nex 750 b will not run it. been there done that.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817438007


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yeah he may get this to do the job

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151088 but at 129 why not have the 850 watt corsair for 119


or why not get the 750 gold for 99?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151132

which for the money was my pick in the first place.

 

[LtGoonRush]

Keep in mind that the Seasonic G-series are some of the loudest power supplies available, so while you may not want to spend for the Platinum series you probably want to avoid the G-series. It's also important that you get a power supply adequately sized for your system, most power supplies ramp up in noise significantly past ~50% load. Some people don't care much about that or have much louder fans, but to me it would suck if your power supply is the loudest thing in your case.

 

[philipma1957]

Keep in mind that the Seasonic G-series are some of the loudest power supplies available, so while you may not want to spend for the Platinum series you probably want to avoid the G-series. It's also important that you get a power supply adequately sized for your system, most power supplies ramp up in noise significantly past ~50% load. Some people don't care much about that or have much louder fans, but to me it would suck if your power supply is the loudest thing in your case.

which is why the corsair 850 watter at 119 AR is pretty good.

he would stay under 500 watts most of the time so it would not be pushed that hard and be pretty quiet.

I have to say when they were blowing out the 750/760 watt seasonic plats at about 100 after rebate i wish i grabbed 2 or 3 of them.

 

[lehtv]

Keep in mind that the Seasonic G-series are some of the loudest power supplies available

No, they are actually some of the quietest units on the market, not counting units with semi passive fan control. Not sure why you think otherwise

 

[mindbomb]

antec ew 650 watt plat will not run a 290x with an overclocked cpu for long periods of time . been there done that.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371056

the evga supernova nex 750 b will not run it. been there done that.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817438007

I think those problems are because those were multirail power supplies, and probably could have been resolved if you used different combinations of pci express connectors.

 

[Hardball]

Thanks for all of the good information so far. Lots of good suggestions put forth. I am sure that several of the models suggested here would fit the bill nicely, but I think I might try and wait out a sale on the 660 or 760 Seasonic Platinums as they really are nice units and with those I will not have any lingering worries about having cut corners on the system with a middle of the road power supply.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Keep in mind that the Seasonic G-series are some of the loudest power supplies available, so while you may not want to spend for the Platinum series you probably want to avoid the G-series. It's also important that you get a power supply adequately sized for your system, most power supplies ramp up in noise significantly past ~50% load. Some people don't care much about that or have much louder fans, but to me it would suck if your power supply is the loudest thing in your case.

59 posts.....actually the G series is very very quiet.....who you work for dude??

 

[VirtualLarry]

a 290x can pull 300 watts
a 3570k can pull 70 watts

antec ew 650 watt plat will not run a 290x with an overclocked cpu for long periods of time . been there done that.

Weird. I ran a Q6600 @ 3.6 (150W?), and not one, but TWO GTX460 OC 1GB cards, all cruching F@H for a month straight, on an Earthwatts 650W PSU (Delta OEM).

 

[philipma1957]

Weird. I ran a Q6600 @ 3.6 (150W?), and not one, but TWO GTX460 OC 1GB cards, all cruching F@H for a month straight, on an Earthwatts 650W PSU (Delta OEM).

yeah I was a bit disappointed. I had to swap out the 290x and put in an 280x then undervolt it just a little. so my khs was about 700 vs 840

power at the k-watt meter dropped from 351 to 270 I was a bit disappointed in this. I relocated the pc and made sure it was not overheated. I would get a power down after 2-3 hours.

fuller info it did run fine for 2 months then the problem arose. I would not expect a drop off like that in only 2-3 months.

Well now gpus don't cut it for mining. I am more into gridseeds. I pulled the gpu from the pc. I use the pci-e cord to power 18 gridseeds works great. pulls about 180 watts on the pci-e .

 

[fleshconsumed]

a 290x can pull 300 watts

a 3570k can pull 70 watts

a swiftech h220 can pull 10 watts

a samsung ssd can pull 5 watts only on a really long write.

the hdd and the sound card and lastly the optical drive will never do more then 3 watts.

so he would be able to squeak by with a good 600 watt supply.

I am sorry, but I'm going to have to call BS on this. I run 4770 and 290X on a fanless superflower/rosewill 500W PSU and I've got zero problems gaming or mining.

The op will be running 3570 with a single videocard. 500W would be plenty, 660W if he wants to feel safe, but even that would be overkill for him. 750W+ is only necessary if he's going SLI/crossfire.

And yes, I'm fully aware that poor quality power supplies will fail to provide rated output, but the op is asking about Seasonics. 500W is plenty for the OP.

 

[philipma1957]

I am sorry, but I'm going to have to call BS on this. I run 4770 and 290X on a fanless superflower/rosewill 500W PSU and I've got zero problems gaming or mining.

The op will be running 3570 with a single videocard. 500W would be plenty, 660W if he wants to feel safe, but even that would be overkill for him. 750W+ is only necessary if he's going SLI/crossfire.

And yes, I'm fully aware that poor quality power supplies will fail to provide rated output, but the op is asking about Seasonics. 500W is plenty for the OP.

look telling him to buy a 500 watt that costs more then the 750 watt in question is wrong. the op asked about 2 specific pieces one cost 100 AR one cost 170

the odd ball one I picked has more overhead and costs 119 . my first pick was the 100 dollar unit. your pick costs

139 dollars ! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182169

btw I own 2 fanless seasonics and they struggle to mine 24/7/365 with a hd7970 doing ltc but mine are 400 watt models not your 500 watt model.

 

[fleshconsumed]

look telling him to buy a 500 watt that costs more then the 750 watt in question is wrong. the op asked about 2 specific pieces one cost 100 AR one cost 170

the odd ball one I picked has more overhead and costs 119 . my first pick was the 100 dollar unit. your pick costs

139 dollars ! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182169

btw I own 2 fanless seasonics and they struggle to mine 24/7/365 with a hd7970 doing ltc but mine are 400 watt models not your 500 watt model.

Yes, I'm fully aware that the 500W fanless PSU costs more. I'm also aware that this is not what the OP asked about.

I was simply pointing out that the "you need 750W PSU" or that "600W might be barely enough to squeak by" advice is wrong. A good quality 500W power supply will be more than enough to power his rig in question. Seasonic does sell 500W power supplies. Buying anything more would be a waste. The only reason he would need 750W power supply is if he decides to go SLI/crossfire.

 

[thedosbox]

To put some of the misinformation in this thread to bed:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/radeon-r9-290x_12.html#sect0

Those numbers are for a system with an overclocked i7-3970X (150W TDP) and 290X.

Highest power draw at the wall? 574W

Rather than spend extra on unnecessary capacity and marginally higher efficiency, consider the Seasonic X-650 selling @ $130. 80Plus Gold, fully modular and very very quiet.

You want to know about those asterisks? It's quite simple... I ran this unit in semi-fanless mode to see where the fan kicked in. One asterisk means no fan at all. Two means the fan cycled on and off, so the temp reading on that one test was taken in between fluctuations.

In other words, the fan didn't need to come on until the load exceeded ~300W.

 

[philipma1957]

To put some of the misinformation in this thread to bed:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/radeon-r9-290x_12.html#sect0

Those numbers are for a system with an overclocked i7-3970X (150W TDP) and 290X.

Highest power draw at the wall? 574W

Rather than spend extra on unnecessary capacity and marginally higher efficiency, consider the Seasonic X-650 selling @ $130. 80Plus Gold, fully modular and very very quiet.



In other words, the fan didn't need to come on until the load exceeded ~300W.

that particular psu is pretty good i am using one to mine an antminer s-1 clocked to

200gh it pulls 400 watts at the k-watt meter and runs 24/7/365

it costs 136.50 with shipping .


not to argue but I am running a 290 asus at ltc and I am pulling 762 watts at the k- watt meter. (that includes a lot of usb sticks) And a few gridseeds

if I turn off the ltc mining I drop to 439 watts that means that the gpu is pulling 323 watts on a gold psu to mine.

I can photo the evidence if it pleases you.

I don't normally argue with other posters it is just that for the last 2 years. I have been mining 24/7/365 I have used more then 35 psu's 25 pc's and 50 gpu's
7 antminer s-1's

1000 plus usb asic sticks. A dozen cubes.

I have done tons of long run watt testings on a lot of the psu's.

I do some gaming and I test out a lot of gear. A huge amount of gear goes in and out of my hands.

 

[Hardball]

Just to further muddy the waters, Newegg has the Corsair HX750 for $109.99 plus a $20 mir for a final price of $89.99. The HX series is the next to best that Corsair has to offer, behind only the AX series, right? Is this unit as good as the others that we have been discussing here?
Would this unit be considered superior to the Seasonic G-750?

 

[philipma1957]

Just to further muddy the waters, Newegg has the Corsair HX750 for $109.99 plus a $20 mir for a final price of $89.99. The HX series is the next to best that Corsair has to offer, behind only the AX series, right? Is this unit as good as the others that we have been discussing here?
Would this unit be considered superior to the Seasonic G-750?

it may be a clone some corsairs are re branded seasonics try looking at jonny guru website for reviews.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=230


http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/10/30/seasonic_gseries_g750_power_supply_review/#.U0QDAV4QRFw

 

[bigsnyder]

The HX750 is not Seasonic, CWT I believe, but still gets good reviews and 7 year warranty.