Sears Pulls "Incorrect Ads"

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Sears Roebuck and Co., the No. 4 U.S. retailer, on Wednesday said it canceled its advertising on "Politically Incorrect," a late-night talk show aired on the ABC television network, after its host used the word "cowardly" in reference to the U.S. military.

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Balt

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Good for them. They don't have to (and more importantly they SHOULDN'T) support such defamation.

As for those who will likely say 'OH FREEDOM OF SPEECH THEY SHOULDN'T PULL THEIR COMMERCIALS' let's not forget that Sears has its rights too, such as the right to quit advertising on shows that it doesn't like and will cause them to lose business
 

geno

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what a moronic statement:


<< "Staying in the airplane when it hits the building: Say what you want about it, it's not cowardly," Maher said. >>


Yeah, but taking almost 100 people with you is :|
 

Tauren

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<<Yeah, but taking almost 100 people with you is>>

F*cking right!!:|

Maher proves, once again, that he is a total f*cking moron!
 

goog

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What happened to suicide as the coward's way out??
This shows Maher is the moron I always thought he was.

Thumbs up for Sears.

Freedom of speech, or freedom to make an a$$ out of yourself for being dense.

 

Emulex

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good job of them.. i'm going to go right out and buy something from sears...

owe. wait. everything at sears sucks, i hate that place..

n/m

 

sandorski

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Bill Maher is right. Driving a plane into a building is not what a coward would do. Killing the people in the plane and the building is cold blooded murder though. So the suicidal terrorist may be courageous(as in non-cowardly), but he is certainly *not* heroic.
 

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<< Bill Maher is right. Driving a plane into a building is not what a coward would do. Killing the people in the plane and the building is cold blooded murder though. So the suicidal terrorist may be courageous(as in non-cowardly), but he is certainly *not* heroic. >>



How courageous is it when you think you are going to be instantly whisked away to paradise? What you are saying is that anyone who has ever killed themselves is courageous. That's absurd.
 

sandorski

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BTW, when Bill Maher used the word cowardly in relation to the US military, he was speaking about how in times past that retaliation consisted of firing Tomahawks at terrorist targets and how that wasn't courageous. I think he was wrong in his statement though, because it wasn't the military's choice in the response.
 

gopunk

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while i wouldn't call the terrorists' actions courageous or heroic (at least not from my standpoint), i wouldn't call them cowardly either. why do you guys think they were cowards? what they did may not have been right, good, just, etc, but it doesn't mean they were cowards. i'd like to hear the justification for the usage of the word "coward".
 

etech

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"i'd like to hear the justification for the usage of the word "coward". "

Has any group stood up and taken responsibility for the attacks?

Cowards.
 

mastertech01

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Maybe consider that they took the lives of thousands of innocent unarmed citizens with absolutely no way to defend themselves or means to avoid being murdered. They were hopelessly trapped by the murderers. I think you can safely call that cowardly.
 

gopunk

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Has any group stood up and taken responsibility for the attacks?

i was referring to Yeah, but taking almost 100 people with you is... which i took to mean that the individuals that hijacked the planes were cowards.
 

gopunk

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Maybe consider that they took the lives of thousands of innocent unarmed citizens with absolutely no way to defend themselves or means to avoid being murdered. They were hopelessly trapped by the murderers. I think you can safely call that cowardly.

Main Entry: cow·ard
Pronunciation: 'kau(-&)rd
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French coart, from coe tail, from Latin cauda
Date: 13th century
: one who shows disgraceful fear or timidity
- coward adjective


from m-w.com. i don't think you can safely call their actions cowardly. you can call them horrible, despicable, and dishonorable, but not cowardly. it is not clear from the reasons you just gave that the hijackers showed fear or timidity.
 

mastertech01

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Add to that striking without warning... like a sucker punch.. a cowardly act. Denying any guilt of association to the killers or thier actions... another cowardly act.
 

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Bill Maher is right. Driving a plane into a building is not what a coward would do. Killing the people in the plane and the building is cold blooded murder though. So the suicidal terrorist may be courageous(as in non-cowardly), but he is certainly *not* heroic.

Not cowardly? It's like stabbing someone in the back. If you want to fight fair, declare that you are going to fight, not tell people on the plane -- "Don't do anything stupid, you're not going to get hurt."

Anyone who has to do something in secret is a coward. Not coming forward and being straight about your actions is cowardly.
 

huanaku

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Add to that striking without warning... like a sucker punch.. a cowardly act. Denying any guilt of association to the killers or thier actions... another cowardly act.

Very well said, mastertech01.
 

mastertech01

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Maybe then by your terms, to kill themselves so as to not have to answer to the charges or bear the guilt and shame of thier actions.. Like a man who kills his wife and children, then kills himself.
 

gopunk

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Add to that striking without warning... like a sucker punch.. a cowardly act.

i dunno, maybe in a brawl that's cowardly, but to me, not when it comes to larger scale things. surprise attacks are used or desired to be used by just about every military in the world. cops don't advertise themselves during a stakeout, it's more or less a surprise to the criminals. but that's not cowardly.

Denying any guilt of association to the killers or thier actions... another cowardly act.

yea, i guess, but on the part of those who remain. the hijackers clearly can't be called cowards for this... seeing as they're dead.
 

Maetryx

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Hmmmmmm. I like the idea of buying something from Sears to let our dollars do some talking. Some Craftsmen tools might be handy, for example, and they're like the best in the world with an unconditional lifetime guarantee I think.
 

gopunk

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Maybe then by your terms, to kill themselves so as to not have to answer to the charges or bear the guilt and shame of thier actions.. Like a man who kills his wife and children, then kills himself.

but did the hijackers kill themselves to avoid something? i don't think so, i think they killed themselves because they thought it would further their cause.