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Sears gets slap for customer's needless wait

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Sears gets slap for customer's needless wait

Baltimore County man sues retailer over service call


By Eileen Ambrose
Sun Staff

Originally published March 17, 2005

We've all been there: The utility or appliance dealer says you must be home within some large window of time on a certain day for its employees to come hook up your phone or deliver your refrigerator. Then they don't show up.

When that happened to Baltimore County lawyer Joseph T. Williams, he called Sears Roebuck & Co. to complain. He learned that no one could have come to fix his washing machine during most of the four-hour span he was told to be home because Sears technicians were in a regularly scheduled staff meeting.

So he did what many consumers might only fantasize about - he sued. And won.

A Baltimore County District Court judge ruled in the small-claims case last Thursday that Sears violated Maryland's consumer protection laws, according to Williams' lawyer, Jane Santoni.

The award - $1, according to the court docket - might be less than satisfying to a public tired of cooling its heels waiting for a repair technician. But Williams said the money wasn't as important as the principle.

The judge "was very stern with Sears and said at the hearing, 'You don't treat people this way,'" Williams said. "That was everything I wanted."

Williams can still pursue legal action against Illinois-based Sears. Because of this, Bill Masterson, director of communications for Sears, said he couldn't discuss the details of the case.

But he added, "We regret that Mr. Williams didn't receive the service in the time he expected."

The case reflects consumers' growing frustration in their pursuit of service.

"Time is extremely valuable to many families, and far too many companies have become insensitive to the time constraints that many Americans are under," said Travis Plunkett, legislative director for the Consumer Federation of America.

"People are just fed up with being kept waiting by companies, whether it's at home waiting for something to be delivered or on line waiting for a real person to answer their call."

Paying attention

Some companies appear to be responding, though.

Comcast said it started evening service times, in addition to daytime hours, in response to customer demand. The cable company calls customers the day before the appointment as a reminder, and technicians call the day of service to say they are on the way, said Kirstie Durr, a Comcast spokeswoman.

The cable company doesn't use specific times to set up appointments because it's difficult to know how long each job will take.

"When a technician arrives at a home, it can be a 10-minute job or sometimes people try to wire things themselves and ... it takes the technician longer than expected," Durr said. Using a four-hour service window makes customers happier, she said.

And when a Comcast technician misses the window, the customer gets a $20 credit on his or her bill or free installation, she said.

Washing machine

Williams' beef with Sears began about a year ago. His Sears washing machine was on the fritz, and the service department said it would send someone to fix it between 8 a.m. and noon on a Friday. Not wanting to be away from the office for four hours, Williams requested the first service call of the day. Sears said no.

So, on the appointed day, Williams waited at home. And waited. About 11:15, he called to find out the repairman's whereabouts. That's when he was told that service crews were in a meeting that morning, and they hadn't even reached their first appointment yet.

"I said, 'You mean I have been waiting for three hours and nobody has even started?' They weren't even apologetic about it," Williams said. "They said, 'Yeah, that's right.'"

He canceled the service call and warned that he would sue.

"Businesses do the things they are supposed to do because of lawsuits," Williams said in an interview yesterday.

During a court hearing last week, a Sears representative said the company holds meetings between 7:30 a.m. and 9:30 a.m. every other Friday and service crews go out only after that, said Santoni, who represented her law partner in the case.

The Sears representative added that even though the service department knows of the meetings, it still tells customers to wait at home during hours the crew is unavailable, Santoni said.

Sears makes service calls during four-hour windows, six days a week. Several call centers set up appointments around the country.

Staff meetings are set up on an as-needed basis, and while call centers are aware of them, they do not know how long they'll last, Masterson said. When meetings are held, appointments are arranged to give technicians enough time to reach a home within the four-hour window, he said.

Half of a day

"There's enough variability in terms of the repair work done that it's difficult to give customers more than a four-hour window," Masterson said. Other service providers, he added, only provide customers the date of the appointment. "We work hard to at least give you half-a-day" appointments, he said.

In his lawsuit, Williams asked for $1,000 to make up for four potentially billable hours he lost while at home. Baltimore County District Judge Robert J. Steinberg lopped off $999 of that, saying Williams hadn't proved he lost wages, Santoni said.

Besides the $1, Sears must pay the $20 court fee, according to court documents.

"What the judge was upset about is that Sears knew that they weren't going to get there for at least two hours and yet demanded [Williams] be there for two hours," Santoni said.

An assistant to Steinberg said the judge cannot comment on cases, and there are no written opinions in small-claims cases.

While Williams can pursue other legal action, it's unlikely. "We made our point," he said.


Time to start sceduling some service calls, and hoping they don't show... Comcast... I'm looking at you...
 
I can't stand when they don't show. For myself, it's not a huge problem because I work at home, but for someone like my dad who has to take a vaca day to stay home, it's a problem. Lost wages/vacation time is the same thing. Happened to him twice with their oil company. :| Then the "manager" had the balls to b!tch me out (including the term bullsh!t, no less) when I called to complain, . Some people shouldn't be in business.
 
the judge ruled in favor of the lawyer and lopped off $999 from his settelment..leaving him out 19 bucks to win a case...thats not right
 
Good for him. I fvcking hate that sh!t. When I got my gas turned on in my apartment, the gas company (fvck you, Socal Gas) told me to be at home from 8 am to 4 pm. 8 FVCKING HOURS. Then, of course, they didn't show up. Next day, they finally show up, it takes the guy 5 minutes to do it. :|
 
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
the judge ruled in favor of the lawyer and lopped off $999 from his settelment..leaving him out 19 bucks to win a case...thats not right
well in some cases, people just want money. In others, they just want to stick it to the company. I'd rather have the latter before the former.
 
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
the judge ruled in favor of the lawyer and lopped off $999 from his settelment..leaving him out 19 bucks to win a case...thats not right

He was just interviewed on NPR... He said that the judge made it clear that if he had PROVEN he would have made those wages had he not been home, that they would have been ordered to pay the full settlement plus attorney's fees...

Basically this guy did us all a favor, and set legal precident for filing suit against the companies that servicemen represent. And he did it for free basically.
 
I hate that sh*t too. I'm supposed to use vacation time to wait for their lack of logistical competency to give a specific time they'll be here?
 
Originally posted by: gabemcg
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
the judge ruled in favor of the lawyer and lopped off $999 from his settelment..leaving him out 19 bucks to win a case...thats not right

He was just interviewed on NPR... He said that the judge made it clear that if he had PROVEN he would have made those wages had he not been home, that they would have been ordered to pay the full settlement plus attorney's fees...

Basically this guy did us all a favor, and set legal precident for filing suit against the companies that servicemen represent. And he did it for free basically.

i understand what he did...but the judge could have at least ruled in favor of giving the guy a $20...once again, principle, isnt that what this is about?...he had to pay to make them own up to their mistake...
 
A guy I worked with, told me he had a friend who was a "professional". he didn't have to bother with repairing his own appliances, because if one broke, he'd just buy a new one! Personally, I rather have the wherewithal to fix piddly problems, than have to deal with repairmen, or technicians. Having to take something in for service, or even getting an oil change is too much trouble for me. I'd rather just handle it myself and be done with it!

Look at this clown. He's still got a broken washer to deal with. If he's so rich, why doesn't he have somebody pick up his laundry and do it for him? Hell, why not just throw the dirty clothes out and buy new ones? 😕
 
^ it's not always just fixing things or getting new ones in place of the broken things. You have install guys (like the HDTV receiver must be "professionally installed" or I don't get one at all)... and you have maintenance guys (like servicing a boiler/burner annually). Must wait for these servicemen.
 
"We'll be there sometime between Tuesday and Friday, so don't leave your house for 96 hours."

And you know the second you leave out of sight of you house, they show up, find no one home and leave. I think they just chill on the end of the block until you leave then say no one was home.
 
I try and cut those visits to a minimum, by handling as much as I can myself. I certainly do appreciate when these companies do follow up on their appointments in a prompt manner, and tell them so. Had the electric company and cable company here for a recent fiasco, and they were amazingly prompt. I can't imagine staying home to meet a repairman, though. That just wouldn't be feasable.
 
As I'm reading this I'm waiting for Rooms To Go to show up a 2nd time now to redeliver my coffee table, last time they dropped it off without putting it together and when I opened it up the table was damaged, I called customer service and explained that the delivery man just dropped it off and ran out, didn't even give me a chance to even inspect it, let alone put it together like he was supposed to, but they don't give a fvck, she said "I'll notify the shipping manager" yeah right.

But those fvckers aren't going anywhere today until that table is fully assembled and inspected.
 
GOOD! glad somone finally did it.

I understand they have to give a window of when they will be there. No problem for me. i dont work so i am home most the time. BUT it really ticks me off when they dont show up in the time allowed.

comcast was really bad at it when i had them. Glad to see they are trying to fix that problem.
 
Sears service is the worst. Many years ago my parents had a washer under service contract from them, the transmission went out on it. They called Sears, who sent a service person out.
Not only was the person late, he managed to break my parents washer even further so that it leaked large amounts of water out when turned on. After having the same service person come out 2 more times to try and fix his mistake and failing miserably my father called up and yelled at anyone on the phone that he could get. Eventualy the guy got fired for his incompotence and another service guy came out and fixed it. We were without a washer for at least 2 weeks because of it.

 
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: gabemcg
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
the judge ruled in favor of the lawyer and lopped off $999 from his settelment..leaving him out 19 bucks to win a case...thats not right

He was just interviewed on NPR... He said that the judge made it clear that if he had PROVEN he would have made those wages had he not been home, that they would have been ordered to pay the full settlement plus attorney's fees...

Basically this guy did us all a favor, and set legal precident for filing suit against the companies that servicemen represent. And he did it for free basically.

i understand what he did...but the judge could have at least ruled in favor of giving the guy a $20...once again, principle, isnt that what this is about?...he had to pay to make them own up to their mistake...

Read the article again, Sears paid the $20.
 
Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
Originally posted by: gabemcg
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
the judge ruled in favor of the lawyer and lopped off $999 from his settelment..leaving him out 19 bucks to win a case...thats not right

He was just interviewed on NPR... He said that the judge made it clear that if he had PROVEN he would have made those wages had he not been home, that they would have been ordered to pay the full settlement plus attorney's fees...

Basically this guy did us all a favor, and set legal precident for filing suit against the companies that servicemen represent. And he did it for free basically.

i understand what he did...but the judge could have at least ruled in favor of giving the guy a $20...once again, principle, isnt that what this is about?...he had to pay to make them own up to their mistake...

Read the article again, Sears paid the $20.

I was gonna point out the same thing. You beat me to it.
 
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