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Search and seizure

sutahz

Golden Member
I rent a room in a house. This weekend the house was raided by the San Bernardino Sheriff's Dept. From what I gather they were after the wife of the couple I rent from. She was taken away but returned a day or so later. They busted in (literally) at 1:30am and did not leave until 3:30am. They ransacked every room, took every computer, and broke 2 doors (the front door and the door to another roomate). Everyone was hand-cuffed and brought down to the family room. They pulled the married couple [1 at a time] to the kitchen and talked to them there (where I overheard that they (govt) was going to deport them to their respective countries). The search warrant was not shown to the husband till the very end (i havent seen it yet, and from what I gather them not showing it till the end is legal, but seems shady none the less). The female roomate asked to use the restroom at about 2:15am (by my estimates), where she was escorted, but upon returning to the couch she was not re-cuffed. I remained on the couch cuffed for the full 2hrs. Isn't that unfair/unlawful to leave me cuffed and her uncuffed? We're both just roomates and both behaved in the same demenor (quiet and tired).
What legal right did the sherrifs have to make that judgement call? Had they gathered information that somehow marked her unrelated to the suspected crime(s)? If so then why did they take both her laptops?
If my computers come back damaged (and as I was in no way related to the crime(s)) will the sheriff's dept. pay for the repairs?
If the person I rent from is found not guilty, will they have to repair the doors?
Is there discrimination with them uncuffing one roomate yet not another?
Should the search warrant (which I hopefully can read tonight) specify the suspects room and computer? What if it says 'suspects house'?

Well I'm not going to even waste my time if after reading the search warrant if its so generic it basically says "look for anything and everything and take everything". I thought about not posting this until after I've read the warrant. But I'm at work right now (hence the internet access) so fig'd I'd post what I know and what happened and get whomever's opinion wants to give it. I'm not normally the person to whine over staying cuffed longer then someone else (a female specifically) but I'm a comptuer geek and they took my tower and my laptop so I'm pretty pissed off that me, a innocent renter, has been subjected to this. I overheard an officer say this was the end of a 3yr investigation.. IF they have 3YRS of investigating, then they should KNOW I'M/US ROOMATES are not involved in whatever.

yeah its not a meth lab situation. since when did meth involve seizing all computers? nothing hinted at any criminal activity, so its not like I even suspected this would ever happen.
 
you can talk to a lawyer, but i bet $1 that the lawyer tells you that you have no case



stop living with criminals

p.s. Vista is pretty awesome
 
Originally posted by: sutahz
I rent a room in a house. This weekend the house was raided by the San Bernardino Sheriff's Dept. From what I gather they were after the wife of the couple I rent from. She was taken away but returned a day or so later. They busted in (literally) at 1:30am and did not leave until 3:30am. They ransacked every room, took every computer, and broke 2 doors (the front door and the door to another roomate). Everyone was hand-cuffed and brought down to the family room. They pulled the married couple [1 at a time] to the kitchen and talked to them there (where I overheard that they (govt) was going to deport them to their respective countries). The search warrant was not shown to the husband till the very end (i havent seen it yet, and from what I gather them not showing it till the end is legal, but seems shady none the less). The female roomate asked to use the restroom at about 2:15am (by my estimates), where she was escorted, but upon returning to the couch she was not re-cuffed. I remained on the couch cuffed for the full 2hrs. Isn't that unfair/unlawful to leave me cuffed and her uncuffed? We're both just roomates and both behaved in the same demenor (quiet and tired).
What legal right did the sherrifs have to make that judgement call? Had they gathered information that somehow marked her unrelated to the suspected crime(s)? If so then why did they take both her laptops?
If my computers come back damaged (and as I was in no way related to the crime(s)) will the sheriff's dept. pay for the repairs?
If the person I rent from is found not guilty, will they have to repair the doors?
Is there discrimination with them uncuffing one roomate yet not another?
Should the search warrant (which I hopefully can read tonight) specify the suspects room and computer? What if it says 'suspects house'?

No dude - it's the whole house. San Bernardino...hmm...here's a thought - when you find a meth lab in your house - move the fuck out.
 
Originally posted by: FoBoT
you can talk to a lawyer, but i bet $1 that the lawyer tells you that you have no case



stop living with criminals

p.s. Vista is pretty awesome
You like Vista?? It irritates me to no end and I'm still kicking myself for buying it for my build last year.

Vista Home Premium since January 2007.
 
Yup monoprice is here in Rancho. I can pay on paypal and pick it up in person if I really want it that bad.
It is a bit of a fun name to say (Rrrrrrrrrancho Cuuuuucamonga)
Its not that I like Vista so much, but it will become the defacto OS before ya know it. XP was sh_t before SP1. Vista may take till SP2... who knows. XP has been around FOREVER so everyone knows it therefore likes it. I'm just using it to get use to it (I'm trying hard not to disable UAC, but its very annoying and as of yet it hasnt protected me from anything as I'm a pretty safe surfer/computer user.

Vista is to XP as Windows ME is to Win2k
Nah, Win2k was for business primarily, correct? Besides, ME was a disaster/joke from its beginning to the end. Win2k is/was good though.
http://www.xkcd.com/323/
 
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