Seagate Jumps On The Helium Bandwagon (10TB)

tortillasoup

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why not use nitrogen or hydrogen? I mean yes hydrogen is flammable but there wouldn't be that much gas in there in the first place. Nitrogen would be dry and have predictable thermal properties and would be dirt cheap to use.
 

BFG10K

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why not use nitrogen or hydrogen?.
Nitrogen is only marginally less dense than air, unlike Helium which is about 7x less. The Helium allows more platters at closer distances while using less power, which is the whole point of these drives.

As for Hydrogen, you want to put a highly flammable & highly reactive gas next to 7 metallic platters spinning at 7200RPM with 14 metallic arms running across them, all powered by an electric motor?

Hmm, what could possibly go wrong? :awe:
 
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Puffnstuff

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Well if they used hydrogen they could advertise that their drives possess "explosive performance" and then they could give them a name like the Hindenburg series. :awe:
 

tortillasoup

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Nitrogen is only marginally less dense than air, unlike Helium which is about 7x less. The Helium allows more platters at closer distances while using less power, which is the whole point of these drives.

As for Hydrogen, you want to put a highly flammable & highly reactive gas next to 7 metallic platters spinning at 7200RPM with 14 metallic arms running across them, all powered by an electric motor?

Hmm, what could possibly go wrong? :awe:

lets say it did explode, how big would it be? also hydrogen mostly burns and it would extinguish pretty quickly due to low volume.
 

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Yeah hydrogen would probably make more sense, given helium is a very finite and rare resource. The hydrogen would not do much without oxygen. If it did ignite you'd get a *whoosh* and that's it. Though I'm not sure how easy it would be to contain, the atoms are so small I think they will even slip through the enclosure over time even if it's a perfect seal.

Seagate Hindenburg 10TB Hydrogen Hard Disk Drive.

Has a nice ring to it. Audiophiles would also say that it makes their music sound better than the helium ones. :p
 

Puffnstuff

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You know the Nazi's didn't think twice about filling their airships with hydrogen and look at the mess it caused not to mention painting them with thermite. Perhaps Seagate should go all the way with this one and give these new drives a thermite finish, you know, to complete the circle for nostalgia's sake. Just think of the ad slogans this would generate:
Seagate Hindenburg Hydrogen series - get fired up over getting your data in a flash!
or it could read: get fired up over our new hydrogen drives - the hottest platters on the planet. Fire your old hard drives and get warmed up to our newest technology!
Or they might even pair up with another manufacturer, say canned heat, to make a combo portable storage/camp stove for versatility. Seagate - always warming up to new ideas!
Of course they'd have to include links to the glowing reviews of their new line. I'm sure they'd be in the headlines once customer's homes and businesses started burning to the ground because they'd have to go all out and pressurize their drives with it to stand out in the innovation department. This would give going out with a bang a whole new meaning.
 
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tortillasoup

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People get all excited when ever the discussion of hydrogen ever comes up. We're talking about a HDD, with lightly or non pressurized hydrogen. The volume of a hard disk is so small that even if it was pressurized hydrogen, it wouldn't burn very much or for very long.

How about CH4?
 

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I am wondering how they got around the patents that HGST has for their helium drives?
Maybe they got a license or maybe we will soon see a lawsuit...or they did something very different.

Bring on the white papers!
 

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You know the Nazi's didn't think twice about filling their airships with hydrogen and look at the mess it caused not to mention painting them with thermite. Perhaps Seagate should go all the way with this one and give these new drives a thermite finish, you know, to complete the circle for nostalgia's sake. Just think of the ad slogans this would generate:
Seagate Hindenburg Hydrogen series - get fired up over getting your data in a flash!
or it could read: get fired up over our new hydrogen drives - the hottest platters on the planet. Fire your old hard drives and get warmed up to our newest technology!
Or they might even pair up with another manufacturer, say canned heat, to make a combo portable storage/camp stove for versatility. Seagate - always warming up to new ideas!
Of course they'd have to include links to the glowing reviews of their new line. I'm sure they'd be in the headlines once customer's homes and businesses started burning to the ground because they'd have to go all out and pressurize their drives with it to stand out in the innovation department. This would give going out with a bang a whole new meaning.
Is that what the North Koreans used for their H-bomb, the super secret & experimental Seagate H-series drives :cool:

Also wouldn't H2O just short the drive after a spontaneous combustion of H2 D:
 

Puffnstuff

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People get all excited when ever the discussion of hydrogen ever comes up. We're talking about a HDD, with lightly or non pressurized hydrogen. The volume of a hard disk is so small that even if it was pressurized hydrogen, it wouldn't burn very much or for very long.

How about CH4?

Come on brother don't rain on my sarcasm parade. :p