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Seagate is getting way too much press

capeconsultant

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with their idiotic idea that Hybrid drives are the future. I would not buy one ever.

SSD's all the way! REAL ones!

Seagate I want some of what you are smoking!
 
I would love to have a 1.5Tb two platter 7200 drive with 30Gb of flash, that would store all files less than 32Kb on the flash for $150. I think that would be an awesome drive for the price- especially if they contracted Sandforce to write the controller.
 
I think hybrid drives are a great idea and they should offer more of them in bigger capacities with different amounts of flash. Other people should probably make them too, that would help bring the prices down.
 
Ummm, Seabait has bigger problems than Hybrids.....like they don't know how to make a regular drive over 750gb! The DOA numbers are staggering on their drives 1TB+ over the last two years.
 
The DOA numbers are staggering on their drives 1TB+ over the last two years.
Umm since when has DOA something to do with the drive itself and not how it was transported? If it worked for a few days when you got it and then stopped working you'd have a point, but so it seems more like you're a victim of the great care most seller take when packaging HDDs (i.e. none)


b2t: While SSDs cost orders of magnitudes more than HDDs I think those can be a good idea for people who want faster performance but can't justify to spend that much extra money. Since seagate also invests in real SSDs I don't see the point, it seems like they invest a good bit more time and money into SSDs than some other HDD makers on the market.
 
Voo, are you saying that delivery companies know Seagate drives are inside the box they're carrying and beat the crap out of it? Conversely they treat all the other manuf's nicely?

DOA may be impacted by carrier stupidity and packing morons... BUT it's highly indicative of overall drive quality as well when a particular model or density or other "channel" has an unusual spike compared to others.
 
Voo, are you saying that delivery companies know Seagate drives are inside the box they're carrying and beat the crap out of it? Conversely they treat all the other manuf's nicely?

DOA may be impacted by carrier stupidity and packing morons... BUT it's highly indicative of overall drive quality as well when a particular model or density or other "channel" has an unusual spike compared to others.

Exactly!

Also, sorry, but DOA and worked a few days isn't much different to me.
 
When I heard the conference call from Seagate's CEO saying that SSD's are not the future, I could not help but draw comparisons to back when Eastman Kodak said that Digital photography was never going to catch on. Destructive technology for the win. That said, I can't really blame the guy, I mean he's looking for potential buyers, declaring the end of hard drive technology isn't going to help him in that regrad nor his stock price.
 
Having to use a separate data storage drive doesn't work for laptops used on the road. Until SSDs of 350 to 320 GB are priced below $200, the hybrid is very useful. I don't see a lot of press about Seagate, however, I did buy three of their 320GB hybrid XTs for my laptops.
 
Voo, are you saying that delivery companies know Seagate drives are inside the box they're carrying and beat the crap out of it? Conversely they treat all the other manuf's nicely?

DOA may be impacted by carrier stupidity and packing morons... BUT it's highly indicative of overall drive quality as well when a particular model or density or other "channel" has an unusual spike compared to others.
Yeah and what n are we talking about here? 10 drives? We had a post from someone with lots of WD (?) drives DOA some time ago, so I'm pretty sure we can find that problem for every HDD manufacterer. Where do you get your figures?


And yes for me DOA and bricked after a few days is a HUGE difference, the first will more often than not have something to do with the shipment while later seems more like a problem of the drive/fw/whatever. There could be some differences in how many g different drives survive, but from the packaging I've seen and how they're handled I highly doubt any drive would survive falls from 2m and still work perfectly fine.
 
These are the last cries of a dying dinosaur. The future is SSDs and we all see it. They see it too. They're just trying to delay it and find a buyer. The prices of SSDs will continue to go down while the size continually increases.


But for corkyg, why buy the 320 GB version if the 500 GB version is $5 dollars cheaper? Maybe prices just recently dropped.
 
Seagate was a good company until they hopped in bed with Maxtor the worst hard drive company of all, IBM was the worst with all their drives dying so they exited the hard drive business. Maxtor is the worst drive to get it will break down you will lose files. Maxtor or Seagate its made in the same plant. Seagate was good on its own but now dont touch a Seagate drive or Maxtor with a ten foot pole. gl 🙂
 
I have Maxtors as small as 500MB and as large as 250GB and none of them have failed. My first 7200.11 was DOA and the replacement has been working for two years. I have learned not to buy drives online since Newegg's packaging is horrible.

User reviews tend to emphasize the bad since folks with good drives tend to not report. Also Seagate moves a huge number of drives so if you see 10 bad reviews, it might be because they shipped thousands of drives in that period.

We all tend to latch onto bad news and perpetuate them. If Seagate started charging more and reduced the lemon count, we'd all be complaining that they're too expensive.
 
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