Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATA Hard Drives

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LightningRider

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UPDATE:

The drives have been released so I'm just updating this original post. We can discuss any topic on these drives here.

Here is a link to the official Seagate site with a description of them.

http://www.seagate.com/www/en-...ves/barracuda_7200.11/

Key Features and Benefits

* Proven second-generation perpendicular recording technology
* Massive capacities of 1 TB, 750 GB and 500 GB
* Up to 32-MB Cache
* Fast SATA 3Gb/s NCQ interface
* Speedy performance at 105Mb/s sustained data rate

Personally I've only had them a short time but I can say that so far but they are not very noisy at all. I never owned a 7200.10 (though I know they had a rep for being noisy) but I can barely hear these ones.
 
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I've been wondering about this too. It seems that Samsung hasn't *quite* released them yet, as most of the major e-tailers have no stock of the 7200.11s. However, when I was building my rig, I came across an interesting HDD on NewEgg - a 7200.10 250gb Seagate HDD... but it was one platter. Obviously, this means that it really is a 7200.11 HDD, which somehow was released as a .10... weird. here's the Link if you're interested at all. Probably not, considering it is 250gb, but worth a look.

Anyway, back on topic... I did a quick froogle check and it seems some retailers actually do have 7200.11 drives, but I don't see any really reputable stores or big names selling them.
 
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Any reviews yet? I'm more interesed on the noise level as it is one thing that bothered me about the 10s and the one reason I never purchased them.
 
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LightningRider

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Two weeks seems a long time to wait when I'm ready to build a new system now. I dunno if I should hold off or not or just use the SATA drive I got now.

What about pricing? Anyone heard anything about that? Hopefully it won't be too much higher than the current 7200.10s.
 
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Any idea if the 7200.11 will be faster than the 1st generation 36gb WD Raptor? (Note, I am talking about the ORIGINAL Raptor (that was purchased about a month after the line was launched), no NCQ, no frills, just 10K RPMs).
 
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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Any idea if the 7200.11 will be faster than the 1st generation 36gb WD Raptor? (Note, I am talking about the ORIGINAL Raptor (that was purchased about a month after the line was launched), no NCQ, no frills, just 10K RPMs).
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From what I gathered with my limited knowledge of HDDs, it seems the 7200.11's 250gb platters have a transfer rate of over 100mb/s. I think the Raptors will still be faster for random access, but the high-density platter might be just as fast.

EDIT: here's a reply I found on another forum:

UncleWonka writes...

Seagate claims a peak transfer rate of 105MB/s for its 1000GB drive. Now, the Raptor 150 manages something just under 90MB/s
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That's because of the data density. The raptor may spin 30% faster, but it's data is obviously not as dense as a 1TB perpendicular drive. However the Raptor will still have a huge advantage in seek times which is just as important as max transfer rate. Sor for an O/S drive the raptor is still far better. But for a video storage drive, then obviously the 1TB drive may be faster during large file copies.

So no, I don't think it has anything to do with which platter. Put simplistically as an example, on one rotation the motor the drive might be able to read 1MB of data on the Raptor but The Seagate may be able to read 2mb on one rotation because its twice as dense. Then factor in spin speeds and you have your interesting results.
 
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LightningRider

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I think for the price difference (assuming they cost only a bit more than the current 500GB models), you get a lot better deal with the Seagates. Raptors are still kind of expensive and you don't get much space on one either. With the 7200.11 you will be getting much more storage at similar performance levels.

They should also run cooler and consume less power since there are less platters. I can't wait for these things to come out but I still haven't seen them anywhere in stock. I really want to see some benchmarks on these things.

Hopefully in the next few weeks but I haven't heard anything new about availability. I've only seen the 1TB drives on www.ncix.com and www.anitec.ca but they still say it's a special order and have no ETA available.
 
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Schadenfroh

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you get a lot better deal with the Seagates.
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Well, right now I have a very old Seagate 300gb PATA hard drive that I use for movies / music / office documents / etc. storage with a 1st gen 36gb raptor holding my O/S and programs. I was just curious if these new Seagate 7200.11 have surpassed my ancient 1st gen Raptor 36gb or not.
 
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Gary Key

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Originally posted by: Aflac
I've been wondering about this too. It seems that Samsung hasn't *quite* released them yet, as most of the major e-tailers have no stock of the 7200.11s. However, when I was building my rig, I came across an interesting HDD on NewEgg - a 7200.10 250gb Seagate HDD... but it was one platter. Obviously, this means that it really is a 7200.11 HDD, which somehow was released as a .10... weird. here's the Link if you're interested at all. Probably not, considering it is 250gb, but worth a look.

Anyway, back on topic... I did a quick froogle check and it seems some retailers actually do have 7200.11 drives, but I don't see any really reputable stores or big names selling them.
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The ST3250410AS is actually a "lite" version of the 7200.11. They have been using the basic electronics and platter design of the 7200.11 in this drive for the past couple of months to ensure a smooth transition to the 7200.11 series. The only real difference I have been able to figure out between this drive and the upcoming 7200.11 is firmware and AAM management features, otherwise, performance is identical. The 7200.11s are finally in production, should start to see them in the channel later this month into early September. We expect retail review samples late next week.
 
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LightningRider

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Originally posted by: Gary Key
Originally posted by: Aflac
I've been wondering about this too. It seems that Samsung hasn't *quite* released them yet, as most of the major e-tailers have no stock of the 7200.11s. However, when I was building my rig, I came across an interesting HDD on NewEgg - a 7200.10 250gb Seagate HDD... but it was one platter. Obviously, this means that it really is a 7200.11 HDD, which somehow was released as a .10... weird. here's the Link if you're interested at all. Probably not, considering it is 250gb, but worth a look.

Anyway, back on topic... I did a quick froogle check and it seems some retailers actually do have 7200.11 drives, but I don't see any really reputable stores or big names selling them.
Click to expand...

The ST3250410AS is actually a "lite" version of the 7200.11. They have been using the basic electronics and platter design of the 7200.11 in this drive for the past couple of months to ensure a smooth transition to the 7200.11 series. The only real difference I have been able to figure out between this drive and the upcoming 7200.11 is firmware and AAM management features, otherwise, performance is identical. The 7200.11s are finally in production, should start to see them in the channel later this month into early September. We expect retail review samples late next week.
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That's great news. Just put together this new system in my sig today and while very fast, I can't help but feel the 5 year old IDE hard drives holding back my load-times. I'm really anxious to get a few of these!
 
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definitely going to get one when they come out. im sick of this 160GB seagate. i want to convert to all sata, with ide being my dvd-rw and cd-rw only...(i have yet to find a decent sata dvd-rw)
 
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LightningRider

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I'm considering also waiting on the Samsung Spinpoint F1 series. Spec wise they look even better than the Seagate 7200.11s. Last I heard was October for them though. :(
 
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TheMerc

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I keep phoning up to order one of these but they keep pushing the bloody availability dates back. FFS!
 
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ddarko

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I did an online chat with a Seagate tech last week to ask about the availability of the 1TB 7200.11 and was told that the drive wouldn't be available until the end of September. I can't speak to the accuracy of that estimate but that's what I was told.

Almost all online sites that list this drive say it's out of stock, "temporarily" out of stock or in stock in 1-2 weeks; I doubt whether any of them ever had any in stock. The only place that may actually have a limited quantity of this drive is www.cdw.com. CDW is certainly a reputable, professional site, I think it was the first to carry the Hitachi 1TB drive, and unlike all the other online retailers, the availability status changes regularly. As of Wednesday, August 22, 1:10 PM EST, the availability is showing as "orders placed today will ship within 1-3 days." It's pricey at $419, not including shipping, but if you must have this drive now, maybe check with CDW.
 
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I'm really looking forward to getting two 500GB 7200.11 Seagates with the 32MB buffers and putting them in RAID-0. That should be an awsome bargain for speed and capacity.
 
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I hope they don't come out to soon, or cost a fair bit more then the current t166 500g spinpoint, otherwise I'm gonna have to either cancel my order REAL quick or just sit in the corner and cry. In fact. I'm emailing my etailer of choice right now and will ask about availibility !
 
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