Seafood Industry Collapse Emminent?

[TravisT]

Not sure how the net would work, but I would assume that the netted fish would have quite a few less natural predators. If this is the case then you would have a significant rate of repopulation. The only issue I see is that if these "diamonds" were in the free ocean water it is possible for them to get diseases. This could easily wipe out the farm that was established dependingo n how tight they were packed into the cage.

 

[fitzov]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: FoBoT
sure, just like global warming and all the other chicken little stuff the anti-technology movement wants to scare us with


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddites

:beer:

Agreed.

being pro-technological advancement is consistent with being concerned about the environment and sustainable agriculture, including fishery.

I only point out the obvious because you morons don't appear to understand it.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: fitzov

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: FoBoT
sure, just like global warming and all the other chicken little stuff the anti-technology movement wants to scare us with


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddites

:beer:

Agreed.

being pro-technological advancement is consistent with being concerned about the environment and sustainable agriculture, including fishery.

I only point out the obvious because you morons don't appear to understand it.

Ah yes, the mark of a solid argument that is known by its creator to be on solid ground: An ad hominem attack.

 

[MisterJackson]

Originally posted by: j00fek
farm raised fish taste like crap

How do you figure?

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: j00fek
farm raised fish taste like crap

yep. but its better than no seafood I guess

 

[vi edit]

Overfishing is very real, and very serious. People greatly underestimate a human's abilities to completely decimate the populations of various types of wildlife.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: sao123
IT seems that this Seafood Collapse is emminent, due to over fishing.

whatI want to know is why are we not creating fish farms to harvest seafoods from?
We grow cows/pigs/chickens for food purposes in farm settings...

If this isnt feasible for the full growth term, why dont we at least start a saltwater hatchery and then stock the ocean like we do for lakes and rivers.

fish on fish farms are fed fish from the ocean.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: MisterJackson

Originally posted by: j00fek
farm raised fish taste like crap

How do you figure?

Wild animals have a very different flavor than domestic ones. RE: wild foul vs farm raised. Deer vs beef. Sockeye salmon vs. farm raised salmon.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: MisterJackson

Originally posted by: j00fek
farm raised fish taste like crap

How do you figure?

the feed they're fed. the same reason Argentinian steak tastes better - they're allowed to graze on grass, not the mass produced feed they feed the cattle here. But since Argentinian cattle is fed naturally, it means that they dont get as bulky as cattle over here, and they have to be rotated from pastures to pastures to let the grass regrow.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: mugs
There was a short article (1 page) in Popular Science a few months ago about giant fish farms (basically a diamond shaped box enclosed by nets) that could raise hundreds of thousands of fish with minimal human intervention. They'd float freely on the ocean.

I wouldn't worry about it.

You think that because you put the fish in a pen, it's somehow different from having them swimming around free? Are cows grown in factory farms free meat?

I'm not sure what you're asking...

I'm asking why you think putting the fish in cages floating in the sea is different from catching free fish.

Well for one, you can control how many fish you remove from the floating farm so you always keep enough in there to allow the population to replenish itself.

And the nets would keep predators out.

Also it leaves the natural fish populations alone, since they are essentially independent. And you're feeding farmed fish yourself.

How are you leaving natural fish populations alone when you're catching 10x the mass of other fishes to feed the ones in the cage?

 

[So]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: mugs
There was a short article (1 page) in Popular Science a few months ago about giant fish farms (basically a diamond shaped box enclosed by nets) that could raise hundreds of thousands of fish with minimal human intervention. They'd float freely on the ocean.

I wouldn't worry about it.

You think that because you put the fish in a pen, it's somehow different from having them swimming around free? Are cows grown in factory farms free meat?

I'm not sure what you're asking...

I'm asking why you think putting the fish in cages floating in the sea is different from catching free fish.

Well for one, you can control how many fish you remove from the floating farm so you always keep enough in there to allow the population to replenish itself.

And the nets would keep predators out.

Also it leaves the natural fish populations alone, since they are essentially independent. And you're feeding farmed fish yourself.

How are you leaving natural fish populations alone when you're catching 10x the mass of other fishes to feed the ones in the cage?

What?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
Overfishing is very real, and very serious. People greatly underestimate a human's abilities to completely decimate the populations of various types of wildlife.

Not at all. The fishing industries, particular the Alaskan, are well aware of the dangers of overfishing and work very hard to ensure that they don't kill the goose that lays them such wonderful golden eggs (the Alaskan fishing industry is ridiculously profitable AND high-paying).
Overfishing doesn't do them any good anyway. Supply and demand dictates that an oversupply actually brings a reduction in profits, while undersupply increases prices.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: vi_edit
Overfishing is very real, and very serious. People greatly underestimate a human's abilities to completely decimate the populations of various types of wildlife.

Not at all. The fishing industries, particular the Alaskan, are well aware of the dangers of overfishing and work very hard to ensure that they don't kill the goose that lays them such wonderful golden eggs (the Alaskan fishing industry is ridiculously profitable AND high-paying).
Overfishing doesn't do them any good anyway. Supply and demand dictates that an oversupply actually brings a reduction in profits, while undersupply increases prices.

The north Pacific/Alaska is a drop in the bucket compared to the North Atlantic and the decline of cod there.