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Scythe Ultra Kaze 3000 & Panaflo FBA12G12M1A - Which has better static pressure?

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terentenet

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Just as the title sais, I need to know which of the 2 has better pressure, therefore being the one recommended for use on a restrictive rad.
Any ideeas?
 
While they're both excellent fans in pure mmH2O I'd say the Panaflo for three reasons, it has VERY aggressive fins, they look to be pretty close to 35* of pitch which is a lot for a computer fan, it uses a ball bearing which inhernently transfers more electrical power to the rotor than the sleeve bearing and finally the amperage is huge for 2750RPM and a ball bearing which leads me to believe it NEEDS the extra torque due the blade design.

That being said, ball bearing are notorious for being slightly less efficient with back preasure due the lack of resistance in the bearing and they are typically a little whinier than a sleeve bearing. I can honestly say that they're both great choices. I do own a few of the scythe ultra kazes as well and they're great fans. total value goes to the scythe as they're $11 vs teh $15 of the panaflo but, total mmH2O goes to the panaflo.
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
While they're both excellent fans in pure mmH2O I'd say the Panaflo .
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http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=171661
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I have read it before, I don't see the kaze ultra's in there though. or am I missing the point?

EDIT: If you're saying that I'm pulling my conclusions out of my butt because blade shape, motor and bearing type are defining factors but, not the whole story of how a fan works, you're absolutely right but it's all I had to go on so I gave my *opinion*.
 
Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
http://www.overclock3d.net/rev...ltra_kaze_120mm_fans/5

This should provide some decent static pressure info on the Ultra Kaze fans.
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I saw that review but, unless he does a review of the panaflos I don't feel that his 3-3.5mm h20 number can be compared to panaflos rating of 8mm because of the size of his testing chamber. I would pretty much gaurintee that panaflo used a much smaller chamber which will drastically skew the data.
 
Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
An interesting point. Getting consistent fan specs can be so difficult.
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So long as the same test bed is used you can compare results between fans used on the same test bed but, there is no way to refrence charts from one test bed to another. Even given the comparison between the ultra kazes and the sflexes you couldn't then extrapolate a difference if there were a review of the panaflo versus the slfex on a different test bed due to the giant variation in the abilities of fans. Fans should be tested like a pump because thats what they are, an air pump and most people loose sight of that.
 
Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
While they're both excellent fans in pure mmH2O I'd say the Panaflo .
Click to expand...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=171661
Click to expand...

I have read it before, I don't see the kaze ultra's in there though. or am I missing the point?

EDIT: If you're saying that I'm pulling my conclusions out of my butt because blade shape, motor and bearing type are defining factors but, not the whole story of how a fan works, you're absolutely right but it's all I had to go on so I gave my *opinion*.
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nononono... nothing like that.

i was mearly linking you a review of the san ace and how much air it pulls as well as the static pressure.

There extremely hard to beat, and even vapor said, that the san aces were the new panflo's to look for.

Derwen you know i would never say anything like that to ya. If there was something really wrong, i would of pointed it out verbally. 😀
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12
While they're both excellent fans in pure mmH2O I'd say the Panaflo .
Click to expand...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=171661
Click to expand...

I have read it before, I don't see the kaze ultra's in there though. or am I missing the point?

EDIT: If you're saying that I'm pulling my conclusions out of my butt because blade shape, motor and bearing type are defining factors but, not the whole story of how a fan works, you're absolutely right but it's all I had to go on so I gave my *opinion*.
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nononono... nothing like that.

i was mearly linking you a review of the san ace and how much air it pulls as well as the static pressure.

There extremely hard to beat, and even vapor said, that the san aces were the new panflo's to look for.

Derwen you know i would never say anything like that to ya. If there was something really wrong, i would of pointed it out verbally. 😀
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Well, it was true anyway. My only problem with san-aces they're usually ~$25 when you can get them. I just don't see the VALUE in them. They are hands down the best performers though.
 
Originally posted by: DerwenArtos12

My only problem with san-aces they're usually ~$25 when you can get them. I just don't see the VALUE in them. They are hands down the best performers though.
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the same problem i have with them as well. *Sigh*

Cant find the justification to blow 75 dollars on fans for a 1-2C performance difference on the cpu side, and like less then 1C difference on the Coolant side.
 
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