Scythe Infinity's Weight?

[orion23]

Is this the heaviest CPU cooler of all time?

I mean, 960g!

I really need to switch from my 9500 LED since it is not keeping up with my core 2 duo and the Tuniq tower, and the Scythe Ninja and infinity are looking very good.

I am about the try the scythe infinity but I'm really worried about its weight....

Now, if it used some sort of motherboard backplate or support, it wouldn't be so bad.

But this cooler simply attaches to the existing holes for the stock cooler......

What do you guys think?

 

[smopoim86]

take a few rubberbands or string or something and tie it to the case, that way the cantaleiver action is removed, and the motherboard will only be holding vertical weight.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: orion23
Is this the heaviest CPU cooler of all time?

I mean, 960g!

I really need to switch from my 9500 LED since it is not keeping up with my core 2 duo and the Tuniq tower, and the Scythe Ninja and infinity are looking very good.

I am about the try the scythe infinity but I'm really worried about its weight....

Now, if it used some sort of motherboard backplate or support, it wouldn't be so bad.

But this cooler simply attaches to the existing holes for the stock cooler......

What do you guys think?

No heatsink manufacturer would sell a heatsink that when properly mounted (via the manufacturers instructions) would mess up your mobo...
Its not worth the risk to ruin there buisness to mess up your mobo!!

Buy the Infinity and don`t worry about it!!
After you check to see if there are issues by going to the Scythe website......

Good Luck!!

 

[Shadowknight]

Might be worth looking at t SCPR review and the forum thread covering that article: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article658-page1.html

 

[orion23]

That review states the same. The installation is so simple and with no help from a motherboard backplate it just feels to unsecure for a heatsink that heavy.

The infinity is too new so there are almost no reports out there about it.

I just cancelled my order, I'll pass for now.

Back to square one...

Tuniq tower...NOT AVAILABLE
Scythe Ninja .... NOT AVAILABLE

 

[Navaros]

I've heard rumors that heat sinks that are too heavy will bust your motherboard in half when you move your computer. Not sure how true those rumors are since I'm a newbie about that stuff but it seems logical to me that since there are so much reports of it having happened, it must have really happened a few times at least.

 

[Shadowknight]

Uh, garbage. I've moved my computer 200 miles with a Thermalright 900U copper heatsink with a heavy aluminum 92mm fan mounted on it with no problems, and it was heavier than my Ninja with the weight further away from the base of the heatsink.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Navaros
I've heard rumors that heat sinks that are too heavy will bust your motherboard in half when you move your computer. Not sure how true those rumors are since I'm a newbie about that stuff but it seems logical to me that since there are so much reports of it having happened, it must have really happened a few times at least.

You should do less hearing and more reading...... also 15 posts -- welcome to the forums!!

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: orion23
I just cancelled my order, I'll pass for now...

Probably a good move...

On paper, the thing that bothers me about the Scythe Infinity is the (lack of) fin density, and the mounting system, same as my Mine 3 (pronounced 'me-nay').

For the life of me, I cannot figure out why SunbeamTech has squandered their lead in the HSF market! Supposedly, Tuniq Towers should be available again soon, but I truthfully don't see any indication of it. In the meantime, I just keep plugging along with the Mine...

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: Navaros
I've heard rumors that heat sinks that are too heavy will bust your motherboard in half...

Bah! That's BS!

Look, mobos are a LOT tougher than ppl *think* they are. The weak link is the CPU retention ring... that's what breaks, if you get ham-fisted with it!

 

[Baked]

Just over 2.5 lbs. The Ultra-120 is a little over 2 lbs, AND it cools better than the Infinity, in addition to a better and more secure mounting system.

 

[orion23]

Originally posted by: Baked
Just over 2.5 lbs. The Ultra-120 is a little over 2 lbs, AND it cools better than the Infinity, in addition to a better and more secure mounting system.

I hope you are not getting this from the guys over @ silentpcreview

When they 1st compare the Ultra 120 in august against the Ninja they says the ultra 120 is the best ever tested and the new king!

Later when they review the 9500 LED, they say the best ever tested is the Ninja and that the 9500 LED comes close to the ninja's performance. However, the 9500 LED is better than the Ninja when running @ 12V

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Baked
Just over 2.5 lbs. The Ultra-120 is a little over 2 lbs, AND it cools better than the Infinity, in addition to a better and more secure mounting system.

again...what you see in reviews just is not the case accross thr board!
Whats works well in one case my not work well in another case.
There are way too many variables for your statement to be truthful.

 

[mastertech01]

NIB ninjas for sale here...

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=45&threadid=1924257&enterthread=y

I would recommend a pair of Yate Loon if you have room for them with this huge sink. One pushing one pulling. Its doing great for me, but I have a full tower too.

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
There are way too many variables for your statement to be truthful.

How do you feel about 'shootouts', so called? Are they not the best indicator 'we' have of the performance differences, mounting foibles, aesthetics, and so forth, between HSFs? And, wouldn't a comparison of the results (of various 'shootouts') begin to yield useful patterns, e.g. winners and losers -- all things considered?

For instance, if a Tuniq Tower blows away the competition in 9/10 'shootouts', wouldn't it be safe, and truthful, to make declarative statements as to their worth?

Personally, I think there are too many variables in the determination of a 'winner' for your statement to be truthful -- that there is no such thing as the best HSF!

 

[Navaros]

Question: If heatsink weight doesn't matter, then why does Intel have a "safe weight" specification at all? Isn't that a waste of R&D dollars by Intel?

There are even warnings on the Zalman site about it:

Ie:

The maximum weight for a cooler is specified as 450g for Intel Socket 775 and AMD Socket 754/939/940. Special care should be taken when moving a computer equipped with a cooler that exceeds the specified weight limit. Zalman is not responsible for any damage that occurs when moving a computer.

Seems illogical they would go to all that trouble to warn people and thus make them wary about buying the product as well as deny any responsiblity for busted hardware if the heatsink weight never busted anything.

Plus on NCIX.com they won't ship anything with an aftermarket heatsink installed "due to weight and shipping issues" which in other words means they don't want hardware to arrive busted at their customers' door due to the weight of the heatsink. I'm guessing other online hardware stores probably have the same policy. Why would they have those policies if it's perfectly safe?

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: orion23
Is this the heaviest CPU cooler of all time?

I mean, 960g!

I really need to switch from my 9500 LED since it is not keeping up with my core 2 duo and the Tuniq tower, and the Scythe Ninja and infinity are looking very good.

I am about the try the scythe infinity but I'm really worried about its weight....

Now, if it used some sort of motherboard backplate or support, it wouldn't be so bad.

But this cooler simply attaches to the existing holes for the stock cooler......

What do you guys think?

No heatsink manufacturer would sell a heatsink that when properly mounted (via the manufacturers instructions) would mess up your mobo...
Its not worth the risk to ruin there buisness to mess up your mobo!!

Buy the Infinity and don`t worry about it!!
After you check to see if there are issues by going to the Scythe website......

Good Luck!!

Again, there is no reports since it's so new. I bet that after it's out for a year you'll see topics like this "OMG the Infinity cracked my mobo"

You can't expect Scythe to be able to test the HSF that much to find out that it will never ever do any damage with it's weight.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: Baked
Just over 2.5 lbs. The Ultra-120 is a little over 2 lbs, AND it cools better than the Infinity, in addition to a better and more secure mounting system.

again...what you see in reviews just is not the case accross thr board!
Whats works well in one case my not work well in another case.
There are way too many variables for your statement to be truthful.

I've seen enough user reports from across various forums and reviews/shootouts to say that the Infinity isn't that great and that the Ultra-120 and TT-120 are the best 2 air coolers at the moment.

 

[orion23]

The Thermalright Ultra 120 is looking very good, but it's very hard to find a review with an Intel processor!

And then, the damn thing cannot be found anywhere except @ newegg who is charging $66 + tax for me and that doesn't even include a fan.

 

[orion23]

This Heatsink replacement idea is making me crazy.


I must have ordered the Infinity from Newegg 3 or 4 times (order, cancel, order, cancel....)

I was also about the buy a Ninja plus somewhere else instead.....


In the end, I decided to go with the Thermalright Ultra 120 with a Panaflo Ultra fan (I have a fan controller in case it gets loud @ 2750 RPM)

$61 Shipped including Fan @ Bestbyteinc.com (never purchased from them before so we'll see how this turns out)

 

[imported_Truenofan]

i wouldnt be worried about weight, i also used to have an extremely heavy heatsink for a cooler, the slk-900U for my Axp. that thing took a beating, its been on the same board, shipped from the usa, to korea, and korea to me, and this isnt by air. and there hasnt been a single problem.

edit: on the same board, since 2001/2.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: orion23
The Thermalright Ultra 120 is looking very good, but it's very hard to find a review with an Intel processor!

And then, the damn thing cannot be found anywhere except @ newegg who is charging $66 + tax for me and that doesn't even include a fan.

Jab-Tech.com has them.

 

[IdaGno]

Originally posted by: orion23
Is this the heaviest CPU cooler of all time?

I mean, 960g!

The Titan Amanda (a TEc cooler w/2 92mm fans) weighs in at 1035 grams, tho it does include a couple of turn-buckle style cables to help w/the weight issue.

 

[sbuckler]

If the heatsync is heavy just use a piece of wire to suspend it from the top of the case which will take the stress off the motherboard. It's not rocket science

 

[VinDSL]

Originally posted by: sbuckler
If the heatsync is heavy just use a piece of wire to suspend it from the top of the case which will take the stress off the motherboard.

Or, get a case with a horizontal mobo tray!