SCSI Cheetah and how to prevent from getting hot??

Laymen

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Hello dear anandtech users,

I am in the process of getting myself following disk,

Seagate ST336752LW Cheetah X15 36LP 36GB U160 15K3RPM 3.6ms 8MB 68p

its a SCSI disk and from what I've read it tends to get pretty hot, as I am a mere home user I have decided to buy this HD cooler,

http://www.revoltec.de/produkte/rs004z.htm

Material: Aluminium
Gewicht: 110 g
Lüftermaße: 50x50x10
Lüftertyp: Kugelgelagert
Luftfördermenge: 24,00 cfm
Drehzahl: 5000 U/min
Lautstärke: 26 dBA
Leistungsaufnahme: 2,16 Watt

would this above cooler be sufficient to put a SCSI in my tower(and I am placing the SCSI internally in the PC, not inside of any sort of 5,25" brackets)and be sure that my disk will not overheat;)

Thnx in advance,

The Lay

:D:beer:
 

buleyb

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I think you'll be fine, but if you really want to keep it cool, don't turn it on! ;)
 

Confused

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That should be fine.

Otherwise, put a standard case fan inbetween the case and the hard drive, and let it blow cold air from the intake over the hard drive :)


Confused
 

Crusty

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Originally posted by: Confused
That should be fine.

Otherwise, put a standard case fan inbetween the case and the hard drive, and let it blow cold air from the intake over the hard drive :)


Confused

I do that with to Atlas 10K III U160 drives and they stay cool to the touch, not even warm.
 

GoSharks

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all you really need for scsi drives is airflow - doesnt really matter how much, just that it gets some. right now, i have my case setup as negative airflow (more out than in) and i have left one of the 3.5" drive bay covers off so that the easiest path for the air to flow is right over my fan-less cheetah. i have an antec 1030 clone with the one hard drive rack with the fan, mine is full with two other cheetahs :).
 

Laymen

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Originally posted by: bacillus
believe it or not but that particular scsi hdd runs quite cool!

Strange cuz on many sites I have read that 15K cheetah's run quite warm;) I use my comp not for video editing and encoding, just games etc so should be safe with that extra cooler on top. Will also do Confused said, I still have room in front of SCSI to place internal fan as well.

 

bacillus

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the first generation cheetah x15 ran quite hot but your model is the 2nd generation model which ran much cooler.
mine just feels warm to touch!
 

sharkeeper

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What I have found with SCSI disks if they are running too warm, they are being used in an unfavorable environment. Certainly not what they were designed for!

Cheers!
 

mastertech01

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The 36LP and the 15k.3 have fluid bearings and run pretty cool compared to older drives.

Seagate ST336752LW Cheetah X15 36LP 36GB U160 15K3RPM 3.6ms 8MB 68p

This model information is rather decieving. I would check the Seagate website for the exact specs since this one is trying to seemingly misrepresent itself as a 15k.3
 

Parabellum27

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The 15K.3 is third generation and its model number is ST336753LW while the X15 36LP is ST336752LW and is second generation. Laymen, do you have purchased your drive? I have exactly the one you search and I might upgrade. LMK.

Para
 

Laymen

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Damn, a HD that is supposed to be 15K is only 10K or what??? I'll check it out at once, and no Para I haven't received my HD yet, its still caught in the mail but should arrive soon.

EDIT : BTW what does that mean, second and third generation, I mean what are the differences between my model(second generation)and the newer one???

EDIT 2 : I just checked on seagate and this is what comes up,

Model Number:ST336752LW
Capacity:37 GB
Speed:15K rpm
Seek time:3.6 ms avg
Interface:Ultra160 SCSI

Model Number:ST336753LW
Capacity:37 GB
Speed:15K rpm
Seek time:3.6 ms avg
Interface:Ultra320 SCSI

But it also says this,

The Cheetah X15-36LP is transitioning to the new Cheetah 15K.3. The Cheetah 15K.3 is offered in Ultra320 SCSI and 2Gbit/sec Fibre Channel, with these model numbers: ST373453 for the 73Gbyte Cheetah 15K.3, ST336753 for the 36 Gbyte Cheetah 15K.3, and ST318453 for the 18 Gbyte Cheetah 15K.3.

But I can't seem to find the model ST336752LW anywhere in above mentioning, so I am kinda stumped as to what the true identity and specs of this drive are:(:( Plz help if you know more,

Greetz,

Peter

EDIT 3 : Quick search on other page on seagate website revealed this and it does mention the exact modelnumber,

http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/specs/scsi/st336752lw.html

and it states there that its 15,000 rpm so thats cool, and its U160 no more than I needed or could ever get out of it since I only have 32bit PCI slots. If I still missed something lemme know okay,

Thnx again



 

Big Lar

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You'll be fine, the drive is 2nd generation, which means its a u160. It'll run cool, and just as fast as the 3rd generation drives. Welcome to the wonderfull land of scsi :)
 

charlie21

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I have 2 10k SCSI drives and a 7200 WD IDE mounted right on top of each other. My case intake fan blows air through them, and they don't even get warm to the touch.
 

Emrys

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I run 2x 15k cheetah 73gigers and a 10k 146gig all in the same case with just standard cooling-- I have the 2 intake fans blowing over the 2 15k drives-- they are seperated mind you and the other drive up in the floppy bay to keep it seperated. With that my case temp sits at 32c, so not too bad. You really don't need one of those silly coolers in my opinion. I wouldn't mind getting a seperate enclosure for mine, but haven't got around to it yet.

The big difference between those drives is that the first one is a 160 and the second is 320-- the .3 part is what that means. Seagate is, and has been converting their drives up to the new 320 standard which they jumped into about 2 years or so ago I belive. The other difference between generations tends to deal with power consumption, and heat mainly, and also some basic seek time changes. They are kind of like different generations of cars, where the second generation is an upgrade of the first-- adding new tech to make it run better and such.
 

Laymen

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Yeah I understand now;) Guess I will have some happy SCSI days ahead of me then:):) Thnx for all your wonderfull replies, anandtech is one of the few forums on the net that actually have users on that really know what they are talking about hehehehh,

Cheers,

Peter