Screw hybrid cars you enviro-weenies!

MasterAndCommander

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!#$!@$#!@ Washington Post!!!

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Top Saudi Says Kingdom Has Plenty of Oil

By ANNE GEARAN
The Associated Press
Thursday, June 9, 2005; 11:32 AM

WASHINGTON -- Saudi Arabia has plenty of oil _ more than the world is likely to need _ along with an increasing ability to refine crude oil into gasoline and other products before selling it overseas, a top Saudi official says.

"The world is more likely to run out of uses for oil than Saudi Arabia is going to run out of oil," Adel al-Jubeir, top foreign policy adviser for Saudi Arabia's de facto ruler Crown Prince Abdullah, said Wednesday.

In a wide-ranging interview with The Associated Press, Al-Jubeir said relations between his nation and the Bush administration were strong but "the environment in which the relationship operates ... still leaves a lot to be desired."

He denied his country has any nuclear weapons ambitions, despite international concerns about a Saudi request to lower international scrutiny of its lone nuclear reactor.

He said he was "bullish" about the Saudi economy, which although based on the country's vast oil reserves has also diversified to include a galloping stock market.

Al-Jubeir dismissed speculation, including in a recent book, that the country was hiding the true picture of its oil reserves and that it may have far less than publicly assumed. He said Saudi Arabia has proven reserves of 261 billion barrels, and with the arrival of newer technology could extract an additional 100 billion to 200 billion barrels.

"We will be producing oil for a very long time," al-Jubeir said.

Saudi Arabia now pumps 9.5 million barrels of oil daily, with the capacity to produce 11 million barrels a day. The country has pledged to increase daily production to 12.5 million barrels by 2009, and the nation's oil minister said last month the level of 12.5 million to 15 million barrels daily could be sustained for up to 50 years.

High oil prices benefit the Saudi economy in the short run, but al-Jubeir said his nation wants a stable price that won't hurt consumers so much that they reduce their energy demands.

The problem for both the Saudis and the United States is what happens after the oil is pumped.

"If we send more oil to the United States and you can't refine it, it's not going to become gasoline," al-Jubeir said. The United States has not built a refinery since the 1970s, and other markets have similarly outmoded or limited refining capacity. Environmental concerns and local opposition make it unlikely new U.S. refineries can be built quickly, even with the current gas price crunch.

Saudi Arabia has partly stepped into the breach, with new refineries being built inside the kingdom as well as in China and soon in India, al-Jubeir said.

The country has also invested in gasoline stations, part of a strategy of "going downstream" from oil production to distribution, al-Jubeir said.

"We continue to do it, and we have one of the largest refining and distribution systems in the world," he said.

Ordinary Saudis remain deeply distrustful of the United States in the aftermath of the Iraq invasion and revelations about mistreatment of Muslim prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq and a range of complaints about conditions at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, al-Jubeir said.

"Why do they hate you? They don't hate you, they just don't like your policies."

Al-Jubeir said the Saudi regime takes no umbrage at U.S. efforts to spread democracy in the Middle East. President Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice have made democratic expansion a centerpiece of Bush's second term foreign policy.

"We believe that the idea of spreading freedom and democracy is a noble one," but change must come on terms each country can accept, al-Jubeir said.
 

NiKeFiDO

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linkage...what?

also, meh to this article, the oil owners can report whatever they want to sway public opinion on oil, doens tmake it true.
 

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AnyMal

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Just because there's plenty for now, doesn't mean we have to be wasteful.
 

Eli

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Of course they do.

Doesen't make it the truth.
 

1) WTF is an enviro-pansy? Someone who cares about the health of our air and water? Yup, sure sounds like a pansy!
2) The Saudi government's declaration of their oil reserves doesn't make it true. I'm not saying it's not, but I'd like to wait for confirmation from other OPEC member countries.
 

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Just because there's plenty for now, doesn't mean we have to be wasteful.


agreed

besides its 2005, the days of fossil fuel should be long over
 

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"The world is more likely to run out of uses for oil than Saudi Arabia is going to run out of oil," Adel al-Jubeir, top foreign policy adviser for Saudi Arabia's de facto ruler Crown Prince Abdullah, said Wednesday.
That's where I stopped reading. Utter nonsense, but much of the stuff out of the middle east is ridiculous, so this is par for the course.
 

FoBoT

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this is the quote
Saudi Arabia has plenty of oil _ more than the world is likely to need _ along with an increasing ability to refine crude oil into gasoline and other products before selling it overseas, a top Saudi official says.

"The world is more likely to run out of uses for oil than Saudi Arabia is going to run out of oil," Adel al-Jubeir, top foreign policy adviser for Saudi Arabia's de facto ruler Crown Prince Abdullah, said Wednesday.

but later, it turns out that "forever" is about 50 years

He said Saudi Arabia has proven reserves of 261 billion barrels, and with the arrival of newer technology could extract an additional 100 billion to 200 billion barrels.

"We will be producing oil for a very long time," al-Jubeir said.

Saudi Arabia now pumps 9.5 million barrels of oil daily, with the capacity to produce 11 million barrels a day. The country has pledged to increase daily production to 12.5 million barrels by 2009, and the nation's oil minister said last month the level of 12.5 million to 15 million barrels daily could be sustained for up to 50 years.
 

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If people who care about the status of the earth are "envro-pansies" then I guess I am one. That must make you what we enviro-pansies call a "fvcking idiot"

Just because we have it doesn't mean we should waste it.
 

MasterAndCommander

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Originally posted by: BroeBo
If people who care about the status of the earth are "envro-pansies" then I guess I am one. That must make you what we enviro-pansies call a "fvcking idiot"

Just because we have it doesn't mean we should waste it.

Green house gases/Global Warming are good...I hate winter.
 

40Hands

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Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Originally posted by: BroeBo
If people who care about the status of the earth are "envro-pansies" then I guess I am one. That must make you what we enviro-pansies call a "fvcking idiot"

Just because we have it doesn't mean we should waste it.

Green house gases are good...I hate winter.

I am going to hope your just joking. But if not then I am going to take that responce as a "Why yes BroeBo, I am a fvcking idiot"
 

Kelemvor

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Yeah, then why do prices continue to rise if there's so much available? I'd still rather not have to pay as much for gas. We're just keeping Saudi in power of the entire earth since they have all the oil.
 

Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Originally posted by: BroeBo
If people who care about the status of the earth are "envro-pansies" then I guess I am one. That must make you what we enviro-pansies call a "fvcking idiot"

Just because we have it doesn't mean we should waste it.

Green house gases/Global Warming are good...I hate winter.
Do you like losing California, Florida and New York City due to rising sea levels?
 

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"If we send more oil to the United States and you can't refine it, it's not going to become gasoline," al-Jubeir said. The United States has not built a refinery since the 1970s, and other markets have similarly outmoded or limited refining capacity. Environmental concerns and local opposition make it unlikely new U.S. refineries can be built quickly, even with the current gas price crunch.


This is what pisses me off the most.
 

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Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Originally posted by: BroeBo
If people who care about the status of the earth are "envro-pansies" then I guess I am one. That must make you what we enviro-pansies call a "fvcking idiot"

Just because we have it doesn't mean we should waste it.

Green house gases/Global Warming are good...I hate winter.
Uh huh.

Too bad without the seasons almost every ecosystem on the planet would cease to exist as we know it.
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Originally posted by: BroeBo
If people who care about the status of the earth are "envro-pansies" then I guess I am one. That must make you what we enviro-pansies call a "fvcking idiot"

Just because we have it doesn't mean we should waste it.

Green house gases/Global Warming are good...I hate winter.
Do you like losing California, Florida and New York City due to rising sea levels?

hahahaha, here we go with the scare tactics. I think it's time someone said it:

Take this to P&N!
 

MasterAndCommander

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Originally posted by: BroeBo
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Originally posted by: BroeBo
If people who care about the status of the earth are "envro-pansies" then I guess I am one. That must make you what we enviro-pansies call a "fvcking idiot"

Just because we have it doesn't mean we should waste it.

Green house gases are good...I hate winter.

I am going to hope your just joking. But if not then I am going to take that responce as a "Why yes BroeBo, I am a fvcking idiot"


Melting Polar icecaps are good too...my land in the midwest will be more valuable as waterfront property
 

MasterAndCommander

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: MasterAndCommander
Originally posted by: BroeBo
If people who care about the status of the earth are "envro-pansies" then I guess I am one. That must make you what we enviro-pansies call a "fvcking idiot"

Just because we have it doesn't mean we should waste it.

Green house gases/Global Warming are good...I hate winter.
Do you like losing California, Florida and New York City due to rising sea levels?

No big losses there - it would be doing America a favor.
 

Aharami

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Originally posted by: AnyMal
Just because there's plenty for now, doesn't mean we have to be wasteful.

American will be wasteful no matter what