Or, she was paid to refuse the test. This would really not surprise me since she has gained so much financially from all this.
Or, she was paid to refuse the test. This would really not surprise me since she has gained so much financially from all this.
It makes no difference. I remember I was being heavily criticized during the Eliot Spitzer bruhaha for wondering aloud whether or not a man can sleep with the same woman for 50 years. I'm sure it must've been tough but it doesn't excuse it. Stop making excuses for him.
That's rich! Only in demented lefty land can someone even think about a comparison between McCain and Edwards on this.
You become less of a man everytime you defend the indefensible. McCain cheated on his crippled wife and left her for a younger woman. John Edwards apologize to his wife and is still with her.
How old are you?
You're a joke. The fact that you can compare McCain and the rumors (might be true, doesn't really matter) to Edwards shows what a pathetic hack you are.
POW for years comes back to wife and they separate = Understandable
Millionaire who cheats on his cancer stricken wife = POS
How do you not know if McCain had PTSD when he came back? How do you know if he didn't have some serious psychological problems at the time? How do you know his wife didn't feel the same for him? How do you even know if he cheated on her?
How old are you?
I'm 27. I guess it took him 7 or 8 years for him to figure he didn't love her. I'm sure it had nothing to do with the younger millionaire he was chasing in Hawaii. I'm not excusing anyone but for you to defend McCain when YOU don't know why is silly and disingenious. Be careful what you justify though cause your wife/girlfriend can be just as vicious: "I'm sorry honey, I just had this baby and needed a bigger dick. You know how it is, right?"
It may or not be an issue. When marrying, many people assume partner sexual exclusivity. Some transmit this expectation through innuendo. Some even say it out loud. Some assume that the partner is going to keep playing. Some verbalize this - "I don't mind if you mess around, just {insert condition(s) here}".
If a person says out loud that they're not going to mess around and yet does, then he is breaking his word. This could be indicative of a person's integrity. Voters want to know about this quality in a politician so they can predict whether (campaign) promises will be kept.
Unfortunately, some voters think that if a person doesn't mess around, they have integrity. For me, it's not the messing around that's a strikeout, but the broken word/promise.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
wow. just wow. IMO, people who truly think that are just as big of scum as those who actually cheat. Pathetic.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
No, it's the attitude that it's "just sex" or that it's a "who cares" matter. It's much more than sex and anyone who isn't scum knows it's more than just sex.
One could make the argument that it's personal...blah blah blah, but when you put yourself on the national stage and run for office most things are not personal anymore.
That's horseshit.
What anyone does behind bedroom doors is no more business of yours whether an unknown ordinary Joe or The President.
If you believe otherwise you should not be in America and leave immediately.
Bowfinger
Lifer
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ROFL. Oh, Cad, what are we going to do with you? I'd tell you to get that Puritan stick out of your ass, but I really think that's how you get your jollies (metaphorically speaking, of course).
Yes, sex can be an intensely deep and personal bonding to another person. If you'll crawl out from under your mountain of Puritan baggage, however, you'll learn it can also be a simple act of recreation, a purely physical pleasure that's driven the human animal for hundreds of thousands of years. As much as you think your personal morality is the one true arbiter of right and wrong, I'm afraid the rest humanity doesn't recognize your assertion of deity. Sorry about that. Ultimately, it's not up to you or me or America to pass judgment on Edwards' infidelity. It is a personal matter between Edwards and his wife.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Right, so one's character is none of our business. :roll: The fact he has sex is none of my business but if he is running around and deceiving his wife and family - it sure as hell is notable if he puts himself on the national stage to be evaluated for office.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
:roll: You obviously have zero clue, but lets just say this has nothing to do with "puritan" anything.
When one makes a commitment to another human and then breaks that commitment it speaks of their character. So yes, it is up to us to make sure we know how a person will act if elected. If the man cheats and lies to his wife, what will he do as a leader? I know this is hard for some of you to understand, but a man's character IS important when they put themselves up for leadership positions.
One's character between the legs is none of your business.
When that is Inserted into the Constitution let me know other wise find a country that better suited for your kind like one of the ones that cuts off heads for infidelity.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Not that I should even bother with you.... Yes, it's none of my business that they have sex. However, when judging a person's character(due to them running for elective office), whether or not they have cheated and lied does matter.
Bowfinger
Lifer
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You can say whatever you want, but the sky still isn't green, and it's obvious from your posts over the years that your hang-ups about sex are due to tons of Puritan baggage.
Character? Seriously? I'm not sure that word means what you think it means. You'd have a lot more credibility on the matter of character had you not spent the last several years obediently excusing every new outrage from the Bush administration, most of which were premeditated and accompanied by coordinated misdirection campaigns.
As for Edwards, human beings are fallible; his transgression personal. You're making a lot of assumptions about what he did and did not tell his wife, and seem to have forgotten Edwards isn't currently running for anything. Your feigned outrage rings hollow anyway. If cheating on one's wife is unequivocal proof one is unfit to hold positions of leadership, then most of your Republican heroes are disqualified, as are most powerful men in general regardless of their political or religious persuasion.
The simple fact is that the human male sex drive is one of the most powerful driving forces on Earth, and very, very few men are able to rise above it. The only reason more men don't cheat is because they lack opportunity. Men in positions of power and influence rarely lack opportunity.
Thump553
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Last I knew Edwards was not running for public office.
I thought Mrs. Edwards statement was incredibly classy, and should be followed (gist-it's a family matter, I knew about it a long time ago, the news media-helicopters and all-should butt out).
That said, it's amazing the amount of time Fox News is devoting to this non-issue. 90% of the time when I flipped through the channels this weekend Fox News was featuring the story, usually in one of their santimonious panel debates. I guess mud against any Dem is the major news story to Fox.
I thought Mrs. Edwards statement was incredibly classy, and should be followed (gist-it's a family matter, I knew about it a long time ago, the news media-helicopters and all-should butt out).
That said, it's amazing the amount of time Fox News is devoting to this non-issue. 90% of the time when I flipped through the channels this weekend Fox News was featuring the story, usually in one of their santimonious panel debates. I guess mud against any Dem is the major news story to Fox.
Don't forget women too.
Currently it is only women teachers bearing the wrath of having sex outside of Puritan ideals.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Fair enough. I don't know you personally. All I know is the persona you portray on P&N. (And that persona badly needs to get laid.)
Apparently has no "opportunity"
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