Scrabble Abandons English, Endorses Random Gibberish

[nakedfrog]

I didn't want to be too explicit, but I'm just saying that it's not used in the sense of "home" except primarily amongst black people. While 3 (a) comes close, the home or dwelling could be a whole house, not just a narrow room. (Two people, unrelated, used the term in the exact same manner to me)

The others still miss the mark. Storage spaces are not necessarily living areas and not every home is a prostitution facility.

"I was only trying to be subtly racist, not overtly"
Don't worry, I noticed.

 

[brianmanahan]

I didn't want to be too explicit, but I'm just saying that it's not used in the sense of "home" except primarily amongst black people.

nintendo used the word "crib" in that sense in super smash bros. melee

 

[Captante]

"I was only trying to be subtly racist, not overtly"
Don't worry, I noticed.

And you are not alone.

Ouch!


I bet being around @Torn Mind when he's drunk would be quite the hateful diatribe "event" .... alcohol makes people honest IME.

 

[igor_kavinski]

If Google says it's a word, it's a word. Can't argue with Google.

 

[Torn Mind]

That may have been the case 10-15 years ago when the term was popularized (but NOT invented!) by rappers but it's "gone mainstream" while you weren't looking.

The main use of "crib" I hear is still in reference to a babies bed BUT all kinds of people (to be fair mainly in urban areas) use "crib" to refer to a room or apartment now.

Plus that's REALLY close to one of the "classic" definitions of the word anyway as I pointed out.


"The word “crib” refers to a house or any kind of dwelling is normally attributed to rappers and hip-hop culture, but there was another poetic bard who used it before them – Shakespeare. The word makes an appearance in Henry IV when Shakespeare asks “Why rather, sleep, liest thou in smoky cribs, Upon uneasy pallets stretching thee…”

(Allthatsinteresting.com)

Used in Shakespeare, but the sentence above plainly states "primarily atrributed to rappers and hip-hop culture". So, is that primary attribution false and thus one can presume rap lyrics or hip-hop never used it?

Unless if the American schools did a ridiculously fantastic job of mandating Henry IV be required reading thrice in high school and college, the "revival" of the Shakespearean sense of the word would have to be traced to the accept progenitors.


Good to know that I can write a formal document and not worry about another raising an eyebrow.

Like:
Person entered my crib without my consent, and proceed to engage in four acts of misconduct, and caused damages.
He made me feel unsafe in my crib, and I hereby request the following relief:
1. that he may not contact me
2. that he may not enter my crib.

Furthermore, those Brits who crafted the Cambridge dictionary states it is "mainly US slang".
By all means, there should be riots in which legal and other formal documents that use "home" can be substituted with "crib" without stigma.
crib noun [C] (HOME)
mainly US slang
Someone's crib is their home or the place where they are living at present.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Isn't a crib a residence for a baby, if only temporary?

 

[nakedfrog]

Let me see what my crib notes say about this subject.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

What if you want crib notes on how to crib up a crib in your crib?

 

[sdifox]

Can't have a static list. Has to change yearly so you have to buy the official scrabbles dictionary yearly.

 

[Captante]

Just because one is unfamiliar with the origin or definition of a word commonly used in in the English language for many 100's of years has NO effect whatsoever on the origin of said words usage or it's actual definition.

The use of the word "crib" to refer to one's residence/bedroom is NOT "modern" or even "slang" anymore.

Definition of "slang" (Mirriam-Webster)

 

[Captante]

Can't have a static list. Has to change yearly so you have to buy the official scrabbles dictionary yearly.

Or just use the website for free.

Official Scrabble Dictionary

 

[Torn Mind]

The Shakespearean Lineage Of 'Where The Magic Happens'

Who was the first person to call a house a "crib"? We trace the answer from the Bard to MTV's show, Cribs.

www.npr.org

So, I have found the original source of that allthatsinteresting link. allthatsinteresting has proven to be deficient by omission, but that can be forgiven since it is sort of a "fun facts" site and not a serious information transmitter.

Crib's evolution is interesting.
It's connotation became quite negative hundreds of years after Shakespeare. It has been trasnformed into a strictly neutral or even positive term in modern usage.

It wasn't until the post World War II-era that "cribs" returned to its original meaning, which, if you remember, was "a small dwelling." As the Random House Historical Dictionary of American Slang notes, the word was primarily used in African-American Vernacular English.

The first post-war reference to "cribs" as homes came in the iconic Dan Burley's Original Handbook of Harlem Jive (the source of many other popular words and phrases). As Burley wrote in one verse:

" 'Twas the night before Nicktide, and all through the crib
You could hear Joe Hipp spieling that righteous ad lib."

Following the publication of Burley's handbook, references to cribs became much more popular in novels and short stories by African-American writers. By 1958, the word was common enough that it was included in Langston Hughes and Arna Wendell Bontemps' The Book of Negro Folklore. The pair defined a crib as "[a] house, home, where you can not only hang your hat, but raise hell."

Given that "crib" was used to describe a place where illicit activities took place for most of the early history of the word, it's kind of funny that the word is now associated with opulence and wealth.

Not bad for a word that used to refer to a hovel.

So, maybe I'm not exactly correct in the present, but statement I made was true for a significant period.

 

[Captante]

So, maybe I'm not exactly correct in the present, but statement I made was true for a significant period.

The point wasn't that words can't be used differently over time but rather that rappers (black or otherwise) were not actually the source of using the word "crib" to mean room/home. And they were not.

Also the reason I show the link-sources I post in a way that allows folks to know what they're clicking on beforehand is to encourage following up on them, ideally PRIOR to visiting... so good job!

 

[Iron Woode]

has OP tried perma blocking scrabble yet?

 

[mikeymikec]

If Google says it's a word, it's a word. Can't argue with Google.

Next time I end with with a scrabble rack full of consonants, I'll just put them down then because it'll be in Polish Google.

 

[SKORPI0]

Scrabble dictionary adds about 500 new words

Out this month, the add-ons in the seventh edition of “The Official Scrabble Players Dictionary” join more than 100,000 words of two to eight letters.

www.boston.com

 

[sdifox]

Can't have a static list. Has to change yearly so you have to buy the official scrabbles dictionary yearly.

are you even allowed to do that in an official match?

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

"official match"


Schtupidt.

 

[sdifox]

"official match"


Schtupidt.

They are sponsored by FedEx

 

[Captante]

They are sponsored by FedEx

Yep.... Google it for confirmation. Oh wait.....

 

[sdifox]

mondo and tubular didn't survive the 80s though

Tubular is just a regular English word. Why is it gone?

 

[Captante]

Tubular is just a regular English word. Why is it gone?

What's "gone" is it's being commonly used to indicate "cool" or "awesome" not the word itself lol.

"Tubular" = in the shape of a tube.

 

[sdifox]

What's "gone" is it's being commonly used to indicate "cool" or "awesome" not the word itself lol.

"Tubular" = in the shape of a tube.

Oh he meant the surf use is gone.