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brycejones

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You are contradicting yourself here. You said aborted and miscarried souls go to heaven. Now you are asking how many have gone up in smoke.
In the same post he said man created god and god made himself known to man. So consistency isn't something he knows.
 

fskimospy

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You are contradicting yourself here. You said aborted and miscarried souls go to heaven. Now you are asking how many have gone up in smoke.
I would love to see him grapple with the inescapable logic that if going to heaven is good and all aborted babies go to heaven then we should abort all babies.

He won’t, but it would be fun to see him try.
 

cytg111

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It's been a mildly amusing two days but it's time to put Slow back under his bridge so until next account, plonk.
Yea, the way he is slowly ramping the memes, then into drumpf memes… If its not Slow it is a good clone.
 

Fenixgoon

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Jun 30, 2003
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I would love to see him grapple with the inescapable logic that if going to heaven is good and all aborted babies go to heaven then we should abort all babies.

He won’t, but it would be fun to see him try.
Confused superhero meme:
All aborted babies go to heaven vs. Allowing them to be born and risk eternal damnation
 
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MrSquished

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My dog has a better soul then every single evangelical Christian that voted for Trump. I mean it's not even a question in my mind.

Frankly my dog's poops have a better soul than all those people too.
 
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trenchfoot

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After reading his/her posts in this thread I'm betting evangelicals would be very pissed off at Chaser rather than anyone else who's been posting here.
 

MrSquished

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After reading his/her posts in this thread I'm betting evangelicals would be very pissed off at Chaser rather than anyone else who's been posting here.
Not the ones I knew. My ex's father and all his FB evangelical friends believed all the same shit about zygotes.
 

trenchfoot

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Not the ones I knew. My ex's father and all his FB evangelical friends believed all the same shit about zygotes.

Then let's hope our nation can survive and progress despite these throwback's incessant efforts at turning our nation into that theocratically run "democratic" heaven on earth where our religious aristocracy can demand and enforce their will on the rest of us.

Christianity's problem with adjusting itself to the changing times our nation and the world is naturally going through has unfortunately been made everyone's problem due to their efforts at recreating the prominence and influence that religion once wielded in the long gone past by legislatively and judicially willing it into existence.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Then let's hope our nation can survive and progress despite these throwback's incessant efforts at turning our nation into that theocratically run "democratic" heaven on earth where our religious aristocracy can demand and enforce their will on the rest of us.

Christianity's problem with adjusting itself to the changing times our nation and the world is naturally going through has unfortunately been made everyone's problem due to their efforts at recreating the prominence and influence that religion once wielded in the long gone past by legislatively and judicially willing it into existence.

The bible say whuh?

 
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Ajay

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It doesn't matter if you don't agree that a woman's body has secondary rights, your position makes the rights of the woman secondary to the rights of the fetus. You state that plainly when you say, "My operating principle is that no one, the woman, her boyfriend, the participating doctor, has the right to deprive that fetus of it's right to live." Since the woman's rights to her body come after the rights of the fetus to her body, by definition that means the woman's rights are secondary.

I am curious though if you feel this right to life above all other considerations extends to people after they are born. Does a human's right to life also take priority over another human's right to bodily autonomy. If a person is dieing and needs a kidney transplant, do you believe the government should be allowed to forcibly remove someone else's kidney to save the dying person's life?

The fetus' right to life is completely dependent, for survival, on protection and life sustaining nutrition and oxygen provided by it's mother's womb. Without that, it's life would be snuffed out. I wouldn't say that this means the mother's rights are secondary by definition, but as a consequence of the realities of human life. I suppose one could consider this 'secondary' right subordinate for the good of our race and our mutual survival. I consider it mute, that the distinction doesn't matter. It's a simply physical reality in the cycle of human life.

The right to a kidney from some who's life isn't directly dependent of any one individual. That which isn't part of that special and unique relationship between a mother and her unborn child or any other special relationship That would be confiscatory. It is, ofc, tragic, if one cannot acquire a kidney from some kind donor. Such is our lot, based on our own nature (not being willing to make such sacrifices). On the plus side, advancements is medical science have made dialysis more viable for longer periods of time, extending the opportunity for someone in need of a kidney to find one. We live strange lives where we want to do good, but fail to do so. It's like we have forgotten what even the ancient Greeks knew, that the virtues are essential to a just society.

It really hits me wrong when people say that rape babies are "part of god's plan", As it directly is in conflict with his teachings that are in the bible, starting with some of the 10 commandments.

Yeah, that's nuts. God's plan isn't for men to be evil. We made our choice, however that took place. We chose our own way over God when God's plan for a life with him. Even when God made his way plain as day to the Jewish people and then to the world in Christ. How that happened is a matter of debate within my church, to what degree is it Genesis allegorical and how does it fit in with the evidence of human evolution. God chose not to spell everything out about us and our relationship to Him, but He did give us creative minds and the gift of the Holy Spirit to guide us - so we have to work at it.
 

brycejones

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The bible say whuh?


One of the shittiest passages in the bible, basically establishing the deviine right of kings.
 
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Storm-Chaser

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Your trailer trash is showing in the background. Also left handed. One of gods fuck ups -> straight to hell.
You are jumping to conclusions. Nobody is going straight to hell. You will first get a tongue lashing from God, then it's straight to hell. But order of operation matters. It's not a trailer its a cure cottage, and has a long and wonderful history of being a place of rest and recovery for sick people.

I'm right handed, don't you see I have my right hand on my 9mm glock 17 on my right side drop holster?
 

Storm-Chaser

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I know you think liberals are evil so that justifies blatant lies in your mind but to normal people you appear to be a psychopath.
I was just a little pissed off at that one guy most liberals are fine. I don't hate the person I hate the belief system / political perceptions they espouse. Must always make that clear. I have total respect for you guys so long as the insults don't get toooo bad. I don't have to put up with this, I could have left a long time ago, but I chose to stay in perhaps reaching a person or two because I do actually care.
 

dank69

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I was just a little pissed off at that one guy most liberals are fine. I don't hate the person I hate the belief system / political perceptions they espouse. Must always make that clear. I have total respect for you guys so long as the insults don't get toooo bad. I don't have to put up with this, I could have left a long time ago, but I chose to stay in perhaps reaching a person or two because I do actually care.
Yes, you care enough to fraudulently edit graphs.
 

Storm-Chaser

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You are contradicting yourself here. You said aborted and miscarried souls go to heaven. Now you are asking how many have gone up in smoke.
No, I'm saying they were cheated out of human life on this earth, yes they are technically still safe and sound with God, but they didn't get the one in a 1,000,000,000,000,000 chance to live a long life on this earth because someone Cruella Deville thought society would be better if we severed his/her spinal cord instead. #Priorities

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HomerJS

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No I care enough to flip them right side up. Do you honestly think Trump had more abortions than Obama with a statement like this?

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Unscripted Donald Trump. You may want to quote someone who won't blatantly lie to you

topic of sexual predators.

Robin to Trump: you are one (predator)
Trump mouths: it's true
 

dank69

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No, I'm saying they were cheated out of human life on this earth, yes they are technically still safe and sound with God, but they didn't get the one in a 1,000,000,000,000,000 chance to live a long life on this earth because someone Cruella Deville thought society would be better if we severed his/her spinal cord instead. #Priorities

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And all those miscarried babies were also "cheated out of their one in a 1,000,000,000,000,000 chance to live a long life on this earth." I think I'll worship and serve the designer of that system because he seems really great.
 
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NWRMidnight

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I was just a little pissed off at that one guy most liberals are fine. I don't hate the person I hate the belief system / political perceptions they espouse. Must always make that clear. I have total respect for you guys so long as the insults don't get toooo bad. I don't have to put up with this, I could have left a long time ago, but I chose to stay in perhaps reaching a person or two because I do actually care.
What one guy? Me? Because you cherry pick and avoid answers or responding to actual facts or questions, and then cry about having to many people to respond too, etc, etc? You and people like you are what give Millennials a bad rap. You think Facebook memes are facts and don't realize that you are the preverbal dumbass!