Scott Walker would undo any nuclear agreement with Iran not knowing what's in it.

[HomerJS]

Firstly, we all know Iran is currently enriching uranium.

Secondly, again, we all know this deal hasn't been completed yet. That's why it was not a blanket rejection like your thread title states. It's a rejection of one possible term that could or could not exist in the completed deal.

Just because one country is doing something today, doesn't make it is non-negotiable. That's what negotiating is all about. That's what deal-making is all about. Do something or give up something in order to achieve something else.


Since you seem to have all the answers, please kindly remind us what the purpose/goal of this deal with Iran is. What is Obama trying to achieve for the U.S.? And, of course, the follow-up question is going to be, what do you suspect will be the mechanism that guarantees if the U.S. holds up to our side of the agreement that Iran will hold up to their side and we achieve our goal?

And do take all the time you need to answer these questions. I know you're a bit slow on the learning curve, what with still believing GOP congressmen support Putin over Obama. I understand that you are slow. Take what time you need to work through the questions.

I don't have all the answers. I can give a more educated response one the deal is COMPLETED

Maybe you and Scotty should take the hint.

BTW - There are plenty of GOP politicians that publically supported Putin over Obama. Not my fault if you can't read.

 

[Conroe]

I'd wager Iran is working on weapon grade now in undisclosed places. To them this deal is about lifting sanctions. It's worthless to us. They want to kill us all.

 

[Fern]

The whole "Obama's plan or war" is a false choice.

If we bombed their nuke installations into rubble and flew home what are they going to do? Sail the mighty Iranian Navy over here and kick our azzes?

Israel has done this sort of thing twice and there was no war, just demolished nuke facilities.

Anybody talking about the choice being only 'War or Obama's plan' is merely parroting the WH/lefty talking points.

Fern

 

[Jhhnn]

The whole "Obama's plan or war" is a false choice.

If we bombed their nuke installations into rubble and flew home what are they going to do? Sail the mighty Iranian Navy over here and kick our azzes?

Israel has done this sort of thing twice and there was no war, just demolished nuke facilities.

Anybody talking about the choice being only 'War or Obama's plan' is merely parroting the WH/lefty talking points.

Fern

Even the Bushistas thought it through a little further than that.

What justification could we offer for attacking a country whose great sin is creating their own nuclear fuel under IAEA supervision? We's Skeered? Iz-roy-el? They looked at us funny & said bad things? Evil Mullahs? Hate-um Obama?

Try to remember that the 9/11 hysteria from the Bush Admin & the Israel lobby is fading fast & that our recent Neocon adventures proved to be less than successful or popular in the long run. America will not support so-called "pre-emptive war" against Iran w/o just cause. There is none. Don't expect anybody to cover our backs, either.

 

[Fern]

It's not "War"; it's a strike.

Keep stroking it though.

Anyway, we're not going to do it. Israel is and I wouldn't be surprised if they were joined by some Sunni nations. Now, that may well cause actual war because Iran has the ballistic missiles to reach them.

Fern

 

[ivwshane]

It's not "War"; it's a strike.

Keep stroking it though.

Anyway, we're not going to do it. Israel is and I wouldn't be surprised if they were joined by some Sunni nations. Now, that may well cause actual war because Iran has the ballistic missiles to reach them.

Fern

So you think Irans only option, if we attacked them unprovoked, would only be through their military? Are you so stupid to think that a nation that has a history of funding terrorist suddenly wouldn't escalate it's funding? Are you so ignorant that you think an unprovoked attack on Iran wouldn't immediately give sympathy to the Muslim extremist movement?

 

[Jhhnn]

It's not "War"; it's a strike.

Keep stroking it though.

Anyway, we're not going to do it. Israel is and I wouldn't be surprised if they were joined by some Sunni nations. Now, that may well cause actual war because Iran has the ballistic missiles to reach them.

Fern

Zionist delusions. We can't just walk away if they declare the Persian gulf to be a war zone, can we? If tens of thousands of Iranian volunteers appear in Afghanistan? If they set their minds to toppling the Saudi monarchy, one of the most backward & corrupt govts on the planet?

Even the Neocons weren't quite that arrogantly stupid.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Scott has been fucking over Wisconsin for a number of years. If his empire of evil grows, we all will suffer.

 

[cabri]

False. Iran's production is monitored by the IAEA & does not exceed generally accepted standards for LEU. Reconfigured, those centrifuges could produce HEU for weapons, but that's not what the IAEA says is happening.

Yet the IAEA is not allowed in certain locations for monitoring purposes

Obviously, the US would be screaming bloody murder if the IAEA reported production of HEU. They have not.

Their centrifuges are not configured for HEU production-



https://fas.org/issues/nonprolifera...ogy/centrifuges-nuclear-weapon-proliferation/

The IAEA has sealed cameras & ultra sensitive sniffers all over Iranian production facilities. They can differentiate microscopic particles of LEU from HEU. 100% containment of enriched uranium is impossible, apparently. That's fairly common knowledge among people who have any business talking about the subject.

They have access to what facilities Iran has allowed. They do not have access to everything.

 

[Mxylplyx]

It's not "War"; it's a strike.

Keep stroking it though.

Anyway, we're not going to do it. Israel is and I wouldn't be surprised if they were joined by some Sunni nations. Now, that may well cause actual war because Iran has the ballistic missiles to reach them.

Fern

Why dont you ask Japan how their "strike" against Pearl Harbor worked for them? They might lack the power to threaten our homeland, but you can bet your ass they would retaliate in every way within their power, and we have a heavy presence in the region. Ya'll think blowing shit up is always a simple solution, without a single bit of consideration for the aftermath. We blew a bunch of shit up in Iraq over a decade ago. Turn on the news every once in a while and take a look at the consequences.

God damn you neocons are scary.

 

[HTFOff]

If his empire of evil grows, we all will suffer.

Lmao

 

[Fern]

So you think Irans only option, if we attacked them unprovoked, would only be through their military? Are you so stupid to think that a nation that has a history of funding terrorist suddenly wouldn't escalate it's funding?

Are you so stupid to think a country that is under economic sanctions (thanks, btw, to Obama for easing those) while the Saudis' are simultaneously propping up oil production which has, likely intentionally, the effect of killing Iran's revenues from oil has plenty of money to increase their terror budget?

Are you so ignorant that you think an unprovoked attack on Iran wouldn't immediately give sympathy to the Muslim extremist movement?

Are you so ignorant to be unaware that the Sunni nations (most of the M.E. BTW) are already fighting the Shia nation of Iran? ISIS, a Sunni group that literally hates Iran, is going to sympathize with Iran? Hahaha.

Fern

 

[Fern]

Zionist delusions. We can't just walk away if they declare the Persian gulf to be a war zone, can we? If tens of thousands of Iranian volunteers appear in Afghanistan? If they set their minds to toppling the Saudi monarchy, one of the most backward & corrupt govts on the planet?

Even the Neocons weren't quite that arrogantly stupid.

Afghanistan is Sunni. Good luck with that. Think they'll fare any better than the Russians?

They're currently battling the Saudi's.

Iran is your 'boogeyman', no?

They're already involved in Iraq, Syria and Yemen, in addition to their other ventures. How much money and resources do you think they have?

Fern

 

[Fern]

Why dont you ask Japan how their "strike" against Pearl Harbor worked for them? They might lack the power to threaten our homeland, but you can bet your ass they would retaliate in every way within their power, and we have a heavy presence in the region. Ya'll think blowing shit up is always a simple solution, without a single bit of consideration for the aftermath. We blew a bunch of shit up in Iraq over a decade ago. Turn on the news every once in a while and take a look at the consequences.

God damn you neocons are scary.

Pls look up Operation Opera (also known as Operation Babylon) and Operation Orchard.

Pearl Harbor? LOLOLOLO

Fern

 

[Jhhnn]

Are you so stupid to think a country that is under economic sanctions (thanks, btw, to Obama for easing those) while the Saudis' are simultaneously propping up oil production which has, likely intentionally, the effect of killing Iran's revenues from oil has plenty of money to increase their terror budget?

Are you so lame as to think that Iranians won't sacrifice willingly to get back at the Great Satan should he bomb them?

They took over1M casualties pushing back the Iraqi invaders. They've got grit. They'll find ways to fight.

 

[HomerJS]

Now that the framework has been released Scotty can chime in...

But let me guess "I'd kill any deal day one". Putz!

 

[fskimospy]

Are you so stupid to think a country that is under economic sanctions (thanks, btw, to Obama for easing those) while the Saudis' are simultaneously propping up oil production which has, likely intentionally, the effect of killing Iran's revenues from oil has plenty of money to increase their terror budget?

Are you so ignorant to be unaware that the Sunni nations (most of the M.E. BTW) are already fighting the Shia nation of Iran? ISIS, a Sunni group that literally hates Iran, is going to sympathize with Iran? Hahaha.

Fern

Are you so stupid as to think that Iran would just take an attack on them and not respond?

Are you so ignorant as to not realize there can be more than one extremist Muslim movement?

Before trying to mock people for being ignorant you should probably look to that beam in your own eye.