Scot Peterson starts collecting his pension at $8,700 a month.

Mai72

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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/b...ing-scot-peterson-pension-20180515-story.html

We know why he didn't go into the HS when shots rang out in February. That's a great pension there. A little over $100k for being a deputy, and I'm sure he will get full health benefits for life. Sad while most Americans are unable to afford medication and to retire while still young. 55 is still relatively young.So, good for him that he was able to play the system. TBH, I don't know how long we can go on with these huge pensions before it all goes to sh*t. It will go come crashing down soon is my guess. If he lives to 85, that's 30 years. A little over $3m for not doing much.

The 55-year-old Peterson, a Broward deputy for 32 years, was paid $101,879.03 last year — $75,673.72 in base salary plus overtime and other compensation, according to sheriff’s office records. Until the shooting, he was considered a trusted school resource officer at Stoneman Douglas, according to annual reviews of his performance.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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Shit I would have done the same. I'm not engaging some angry Trumptard with an AR that close to retirement.
 

zinfamous

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Holy shit, how many notorious Scot(t) Petersons can there be in the news? I assumed this was the one that murdered his wife and former girlfriends/wives.

....oh and then there is that Drew Peterson that I often confused with the first Scott Peterson.

Honestly, at this point we should probably just ban all Danish/German/Swedish/Scottish immigrants because they keep giving us all these Petersons!
 

Thump553

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I figured the news would be he committed suicide. I'm still expecting that. I don't know how he can live with himself.
 

Jaskalas

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  1. How the !@#$ does retirement result in a 40% annual pay raise?
  2. Yeah, our pyramid schemes in this country will be the end of us.
Anyways, I don't see how this guy's pension is any business of ours. Did he fail his job? Maybe... but his employment is a sort of contract, and unless his employer deemed him in some grievous violation then he legally deserves what he gets. He'll also get to live with the shame of his failure.

But if you'd like to talk retirement schemes in general, then by all means, I'm listening. Me? I'd replace them with Basic Income.
 

sportage

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Come on!
Its the NRA, not security guards.
For gods sake, even an armed security guard is not prepared to confront an AK47.
Nor a teacher. Nor the regular local police force.
This is Vietnam happening, not Main Street America,
It would have been suicide for that guard to enter that school with a "HAND GUN?"
That is why the cops shoot first and ask questions later.
And shoot so many minorities of lately because when confronted the subject reaches inside the car or into their coat. And how the heck is that cop suppose to know if the guy is grabbing a gun or what?
So even local law enforcement tends to protect themselves over risking being themselves killed.
Then you add into the mix an assault weapon firing hundreds of rounds a minute, and some poor security guard that was never trained for such a confrontation nor would he have been armed with a comparable weapon.
Hell... I don't blame the guy.
I blame our society, our weenie politicians that won't stand up to the NRA, our sell-out president, and I blame the NRA for insisting every lunatic have the god given right to buy, own and use an AK47 on school kids, on movie goers, and on church attendees.
When to comes to guns, our society is royally F##k-ed up!
I don't care if the guy got a million dollars and a life pension of thousands, He probably deserved it considering what he was up against.
This is just exactly how we have allowed life to happen in schools and on the streets.
Me think-ist the outrage misdirected.
 

Mai72

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  1. How the !@#$ does retirement result in a 40% annual pay raise?
  2. Yeah, our pyramid schemes in this country will be the end of us.
Anyways, I don't see how this guy's pension is any business of ours. Did he fail his job? Maybe... but his employment is a sort of contract, and unless his employer deemed him in some grievous violation then he legally deserves what he gets. He'll also get to live with the shame of his failure.

But if you'd like to talk retirement schemes in general, then by all means, I'm listening. Me? I'd replace them with Basic Income.

Well he deserves a pension. That's not the issue. It's the fact that his pension is redicilous and for many Americans it seems unfair. There was a time that being a PO meant that you were paid in line with most blue collar jobs. You worked your job, made just enough and got a small pesion when retired. This was done so our tax dollars could be kept low. Then sometime in the early 90s the PO unions got stronger and they started to demand higher salary, better bennies, .and a fatter pension. This all occured in the mid 90s when the economy was on a tear and everyone was doing extremely well.

His pension came to light when he became a coward and refused to enter the HS and engage the shooter. It's believed that he didn't go in because he was going to retire soon with a pension that amounted to a lot of money.

That is why many people are upset.
 

SKORPI0

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Holy shit, how many notorious Scot(t) Petersons can there be in the news? I assumed this was the one that murdered his wife and former girlfriends/wives.

....oh and then there is that Drew Peterson that I often confused with the first Scott Peterson.
They should do a background checks on all Scot(t) Petersons asap. I'm confused too, who was who. Also any Stacy/Laci Petersons as "potential" murder victims.
 

Thump553

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A lot of states have pension systems where the pension is based on your total salary, including overtime (for those who get it, like police, firefighters, and prison guards). There is little to no incentive to hold down the overtime because the same people who make the staffing decisions also benefit personally from the inflated pensions.

That's a major reason why so many states are facing a pension deficit crisis.

What I've never been able to figure out is that so many of these people who benefit from the inflated public largess are GOP/Trump/teabagger types.
 
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Whats that? Government doesn't know how to manage money? They aren't accountants that understand the implications of agreeing to slush pension fund guaranteeing 7% gains every year (even when the market goes down) that obviously isn't sustainable?

Oh but you want to give the government MORE things to do? How dumb are you people to trust that government can do ANYTHING at ANY reasonable price?
 

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Ah yes, another wall of sportage idiocy.

It wasn't Vietnam. The guy was a COP, not a mall cop. There were unarmed adults in the school (and some JROTC kids) that dared to to try and intervene to save lives, and some of them paid the price. I'm not a member of the NRA as I'm not into their politics, but the NRA is fine with laws the keep nut-jobs from getting guns. The authorities were warned about Cruz MULTIPLE F*CKING TIMES and did nothing. If they'd have followed existing laws, this kid would've been disarmed and put on the NICS database to ensure he had no legal access to guns. The AR-15 wasn't responsible for killing those people - Cruz was. He decided to kill.

You're an idiot, little boy.

Getting $104k/yr is nuts. The guy should've been fired and received 0 pension. But Broward County is run by libs, so there ya go.

Come on!
Its the NRA, not security guards.
For gods sake, even an armed security guard is not prepared to confront an AK47.
Nor a teacher. Nor the regular local police force.
This is Vietnam happening, not Main Street America,
It would have been suicide for that guard to enter that school with a "HAND GUN?"
That is why the cops shoot first and ask questions later.
And shoot so many minorities of lately because when confronted the subject reaches inside the car or into their coat. And how the heck is that cop suppose to know if the guy is grabbing a gun or what?
So even local law enforcement tends to protect themselves over risking being themselves killed.
Then you add into the mix an assault weapon firing hundreds of rounds a minute, and some poor security guard that was never trained for such a confrontation nor would he have been armed with a comparable weapon.
Hell... I don't blame the guy.
I blame our society, our weenie politicians that won't stand up to the NRA, our sell-out president, and I blame the NRA for insisting every lunatic have the god given right to buy, own and use an AK47 on school kids, on movie goers, and on church attendees.
When to comes to guns, our society is royally F##k-ed up!
I don't care if the guy got a million dollars and a life pension of thousands, He probably deserved it considering what he was up against.
This is just exactly how we have allowed life to happen in schools and on the streets.
Me think-ist the outrage misdirected.
 
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Viper GTS

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I don't think this incident invalidates his 32 years of service.

Pretty much this. You can make the argument that this incident makes him unsuitable to continue in that position. I'm generally fine buying that. But it has absolutely no bearing on the validity of his pension.

Also anyone who thinks $104k is an egregious amount of pension is welcome to go do their time at cop salary. Have fun with that deal, $104k in retirement doesn't come close to making up for it.

Viper GTS
 

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I don't think this incident invalidates his 32 years of service.
I disagree. In chess there is a saying "one bad move nullifies 40 good ones". This is true in life as well.

Look at what is happening to Andrew McCabe. This to me is far worse than anything McCabe was accused of. This is essentially dereliction of duty. There is no way he should keep his pension. He chose his pension over kids lives....
 

Mai72

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Pretty much this. You can make the argument that this incident makes him unsuitable to continue in that position. I'm generally fine buying that. But it has absolutely no bearing on the validity of his pension.

Also anyone who thinks $104k is an egregious amount of pension is welcome to go do their time at cop salary. Have fun with that deal, $104k in retirement doesn't come close to making up for it.

Viper GTS

Depends on where you're a cop. The slums in America? Camden, Chicago, Philadelphia and Newark are difficult. Wealthy areas like Stone Harbor, and Avalon NJ? Or, blue collar areas like North Wildwood where the winters are dead and the only action that takes place is during the summer months. It's not too difficult. I'm not a cop so my opinion isn't a strong one I guess.