Scooter Showdown Over Ticket

waggy

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A Gwinnett County woman who suffers from cerebral palsy said she plans to fight the traffic ticket she got while riding her three-wheeler on a busy road.

Whether you call it an electric scooter, or a motorized cart, it is Rhonda Wilson's legs. Since she moved to Gwinnett County two years ago, Rhonda has used her three-wheeler to make the one-mile, five-mile-an-hour trip from her apartment complex to work.

This past Tuesday, her trip was interrupted by a set of flashing blue lights.

?They've basically told me I cannot leave my complex or I'll be arrested and my chair impounded,? Wilson said. ?That's ridiculous.

Part of Rhonda's trip to work is on the sidewalk. But once she makes the turn onto Center Way in Norcross, the sidewalk ends, and her problems begin. She admits that it?s dangerous for her to travel in the roadway, even though she tries to stay as far to the right as she can, but says it?s the only way to navigate her three-wheeler to her job.

Gwinnett Police officers say she should find alternatives. Officers talked with Wilson about staying off of the roadway. On Tuesday, one officer got out his ticket book.

?He observed a vehicle that swerved to avoid hitting Miss Wilson, and almost swerved into oncoming traffic,? said Gwinnett Police spokesperson Corporal Illana Spellman. ?Of course, that posed a danger.?

Police consider Wilson?s vehicle a ?motorized cart,? and said she needs a valid driver?s license to operate it on the road. Since Wilson?s license was expired, the officer wrote her a ticket.

"We just don't want her to get hurt," said Corporal Spellman.

Officers have suggested she use the footpath along Center Way, although most of it is not suitable for someone on wheels.

For now, Rhonda Wilson is paying $7 a day to ride one of Gwinnett?s paratransit buses to work.

"That takes away my last bit of independence,? says Wilson. ?That's an expense I can't afford."

Her court date is scheduled for April 28.





ok this insane. If there is not a path for her to ride she has to ride in the edge of the street.

not to mention since when do you need a license to use one? are they going to ticket kids who ride there bike? or people that walk on the road?



i see this one getting thrown out soon with all the negitive press its getting (just seen it on fox).
 

orakle

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Originally posted by: waggy
are they going to ticket kids who ride there bike? or people that walk on the road?

The last time I checked, bikes and legs were not motorized vehicles. Anyways, people shouldn't be driving these things on the street, it's not safe.
 

dabuddha

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Is this the same sort of "scooter" that they have in the grocery stores? If so, she shouldn't be driving that thing on the roads.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Is this the same sort of "scooter" that they have in the grocery stores? If so, she shouldn't be driving that thing on the roads.

Originally posted by: orakle
Originally posted by: waggy
are they going to ticket kids who ride there bike? or people that walk on the road?

The last time I checked, bikes and legs were not motorized vehicles. Anyways, people shouldn't be driving these things on the street, it's not safe.

I agree. she should be on the bike path..oh shit there is not one. ok she should be on the sidewalk ..crap not one of those either.

so her other option is to use the street.

oh and the scootes are not classifeid as motirizec vehicles either.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: orakle
Originally posted by: waggy
are they going to ticket kids who ride there bike? or people that walk on the road?

The last time I checked, bikes and legs were not motorized vehicles. Anyways, people shouldn't be driving these things on the street, it's not safe.

bikes go alot faster as well, for that matter... walking is almost as fast as 5 mph

feel sorry for her and all, but couldn't she get a scooter that could at least keep up with bikes?
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: orakle
The last time I checked, bikes and legs were not motorized vehicles. Anyways, people shouldn't be driving these things on the street, it's not safe.

What he said. It's a motorized vehicle and therefore falls under the laws that govern such objects being used on the road. Although, I'd say it might be best to let her off the hook on this one, especially since she's been compliant with their orders as some people would just go and do it anyway trying to cite some sort of civil right.

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Originally posted by: waggy
oh and the scootes are not classifeid as motirizec vehicles either.

Ya, I think they are. I think ye be confusing them as not being classified as "automobiles." It's similar to how an ATV does not require a license yet it would if you were driving it on the road (which is illegal in most places anyway).
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: orakle
Originally posted by: waggy
are they going to ticket kids who ride there bike? or people that walk on the road?

The last time I checked, bikes and legs were not motorized vehicles. Anyways, people shouldn't be driving these things on the street, it's not safe.

bikes go alot faster as well, for that matter... walking is faster than 5 mph

feel sorry for her and all, but couldn't she get a scooter that could at least keep up with bikes?

sure. but then its not what its designed for. Since she can't walk this is so she can get around. they are slowly takeing the place of wheelchairs for peopel that can get in and out of chiars.

oh and hte avarage walking speed is NOT faster then 5 mph.
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: dabuddha
Is this the same sort of "scooter" that they have in the grocery stores? If so, she shouldn't be driving that thing on the roads.

Originally posted by: orakle
Originally posted by: waggy
are they going to ticket kids who ride there bike? or people that walk on the road?

The last time I checked, bikes and legs were not motorized vehicles. Anyways, people shouldn't be driving these things on the street, it's not safe.

I agree. she should be on the bike path..oh shit there is not one. ok she should be on the sidewalk ..crap not one of those either.

so her other option is to use the street.

oh and the scootes are not classifeid as motirizec vehicles either.

Just because there is no other option (as far as using her "scooter" is concerned) doesn't mean it's a good idea to ride on the streets. The facts are still the same, it's not safe for HER to be riding that thing on a street.
 

Deeko

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Sounds to me like there's a bus she can take. Riding something like that on the street is dangerous. And yes, driving any motorized vehicle on a public road requires a license anyway...
 

FoBoT

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fobot.com
most counties or transit authorities have bus service for disabled people

http://www.gwinnettcounty.com/...jsp&BV_UseBVCookie=yes

Paratransit service for qualifying persons with disabilities operates in conjunction with the local bus service.

Customer service 770.822.5010 is available Monday through Friday from 6:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. and Saturday from 7:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m.

http://www.gwinnettcounty.com/...der%27s+Guide|Eligible

she may not be eligible, but that her situation is similar to why these services exist
 

sjwaste

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$7 a day is steep for a mile round trip, though. If she's working a fairly menial job, that's a big portion of her paycheck right there.

If she pays her taxes, then they ought to put in a sidewalk along the part of her route that doesn't have one. The County has a $1.5B budget, here's the brief: http://www.gwinnettcounty.com/...08_Budget_in_Brief.pdf

Look at page 11 for the distribution of the general fund. Sidewalk time.
 

dud

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There is nothing insane about this situation. The woman is not riding a "scooter" as these electrical wheelchairs have been know as. She is going to get killed ... or cause someone else to get killed (as in a driver swerving to avoid killing her and killing someone else instead). Yes, the ticket might very well be thrown out but let us call a spade a spade ... the road is NO PLACE for a motorized wheelchair. She is NOT riding a scooter.
 

KK

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she should get on I85 and see how she makes it. Although she would probably be passing everybody on that parking lot.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: orakle
Originally posted by: waggy
are they going to ticket kids who ride there bike? or people that walk on the road?

The last time I checked, bikes and legs were not motorized vehicles. Anyways, people shouldn't be driving these things on the street, it's not safe.

bikes go alot faster as well, for that matter... walking is faster than 5 mph

feel sorry for her and all, but couldn't she get a scooter that could at least keep up with bikes?

sure. but then its not what its designed for. Since she can't walk this is so she can get around. they are slowly takeing the place of wheelchairs for peopel that can get in and out of chiars.

oh and hte avarage walking speed is NOT faster then 5 mph.

It's not that much slower...3-3.5 mph. I'd have no problem with it provided she got something a little faster. 5 mph is essentially a stopped car when cars are going 55-60 mph and the scooter is much smaller than a car and not as easy to see. It is an accident waiting to happen unless she has big orange flags and strobe lights attached to the back of her vehicle.

Why not get a moped?