Scion TC Tires?

[randay]

Bro took his car in to get tires, they quoted him something like $350 each tire. Went to costco instead. $350 sounds stupid expensive, is this normal or is our dealership that bad? it could have been less but i know it was 300 something per tire.

 

[Hyperlite]

thats absurd. The most you could possibly pay on tirerack.com is $280/tire for Pzero's in the 18" wheel config on that vehicle. And i promise they weren't going to put on Pzero's.

 

[helpme]

Heh, hoosier dot legal slicks don't even cost me 250$ each for 225/45/17. Not sure what tire the dealer was quoting him for, but it sounds like a big markup unless it included a boat load of other services.

There should be plenty of tires in the $100-200 range that will work great for that car.

 

[natto fire]

Doesn't that thing roll on 14" or 15" tires? Even M/T slicks should be less than that at those sizes. I guess if they are run-flats then that would jack the price a bit, but I just much bigger tires on my Jeep for ~$400 all around. There is no way in hell a small econo-passenger car should need $350 tires...

 

[KDKPSJ]

That's just another Stealership practice.

 

[JulesMaximus]

That slow econo-box has 18" wheels?

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
That slow econo-box has 18" wheels?

TC isnt the box

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
That slow econo-box has 18" wheels?

TC isnt the box

It ain't no sports car either.

 

[blipblop]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
That slow econo-box has 18" wheels?

Yep!

Stock wheels are 17's. There are optional 18's as upgrades.

The stock tires suck and are 200 bucks a piece (Bridgestone RE92) Get something else quick and cheap.

 

[halik]

pfff I got 255 18s hankook ventus for $120 a pop new... dealership is trying to put it in your corn hole

 

[HannibalX]

Maybe they thought a Scion TC owner wouldn't know jack about cars or tires???

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
That slow econo-box has 18" wheels?

TC isnt the box

Econ-box refers to small, I4, tin can cars built for economy...

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
That slow econo-box has 18" wheels?

TC isnt the box

Econ-box refers to small, I4, tin can cars built for economy...

:roll:

I think that can describe the little 4-bangers that have absolutely zero performance aspirations, such as Yaris, Aveo, etc. Scion TC come in 200hp stock versions, with cheapish upgrades into the ~300hp range. Hardly a Vette, but also a world away from 8-second 0-60 times as well.

 

[Riverhound777]

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
That slow econo-box has 18" wheels?

TC isnt the box

Econ-box refers to small, I4, tin can cars built for economy...

:roll:

I think that can describe the little 4-bangers that have absolutely zero performance aspirations, such as Yaris, Aveo, etc. Scion TC come in 200hp stock versions, with cheapish upgrades into the ~300hp range. Hardly a Vette, but also a world away from 8-second 0-60 times as well.

Stock is 161hp. There is a supercharger available, but that is hardly stock. In any case you have a point that 161hp is a bit high for an econo-box, but it is still in the same price-range.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Riverhound777

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
That slow econo-box has 18" wheels?

TC isnt the box

Econ-box refers to small, I4, tin can cars built for economy...

:roll:

I think that can describe the little 4-bangers that have absolutely zero performance aspirations, such as Yaris, Aveo, etc. Scion TC come in 200hp stock versions, with cheapish upgrades into the ~300hp range. Hardly a Vette, but also a world away from 8-second 0-60 times as well.

Stock is 161hp. There is a supercharger available, but that is hardly stock. In any case you have a point that 161hp is a bit high for an econo-box, but it is still in the same price-range.

Well, there are Scion dealers that will sell you the official Scion supercharger installed in a turn-key vehicle, so I consider it a stock option. It's even covered under the vehicle warranty!

More info here :

http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...lowup/articleId=108776

Looks like the lack of an LSD keeps the Scion TC/SC in the league of the Civic Si. Snappy, but not exactly fast.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
That slow econo-box has 18" wheels?

TC isnt the box

Econ-box refers to small, I4, tin can cars built for economy...

:roll:

I think that can describe the little 4-bangers that have absolutely zero performance aspirations, such as Yaris, Aveo, etc. Scion TC come in 200hp stock versions, with cheapish upgrades into the ~300hp range. Hardly a Vette, but also a world away from 8-second 0-60 times as well.

It's FWD it has no performance aspirations other than making 18-26 year old boys wet in the pants when they talk about JDM YO!!!

It sounds more like you're trying to justify spending a bunch of money on something for the sake of saying you have XYZ, when in fact, those tires do absolutely nothing that a set half as much would do.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: randay
Bro took his car in to get tires, they quoted him something like $350 each tire. Went to costco instead. $350 sounds stupid expensive, is this normal or is our dealership that bad? it could have been less but i know it was 300 something per tire.

Was the dealer charging $350/tire for the stock tires or at least high performance ones?

They should be shot either way.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
That slow econo-box has 18" wheels?

TC isnt the box

Econ-box refers to small, I4, tin can cars built for economy...

:roll:

I think that can describe the little 4-bangers that have absolutely zero performance aspirations, such as Yaris, Aveo, etc. Scion TC come in 200hp stock versions, with cheapish upgrades into the ~300hp range. Hardly a Vette, but also a world away from 8-second 0-60 times as well.

It's FWD it has no performance aspirations other than making 18-26 year old boys wet in the pants when they talk about JDM YO!!!

It sounds more like you're trying to justify spending a bunch of money on something for the sake of saying you have XYZ, when in fact, those tires do absolutely nothing that a set half as much would do.

Huh? Where did I justify wasting $$$ on expensive tires? I was just defending the SC as not being a typical ~100hp econobox, not painting it as a Vette. ('hardly a Vette, ^^^).

FWD is fine, not ideal for high performance, but yes, there are 10 second FWD cars out there. Not my cup of tea, but it takes all types, no?

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
That slow econo-box has 18" wheels?

TC isnt the box

Econ-box refers to small, I4, tin can cars built for economy...

:roll:

I think that can describe the little 4-bangers that have absolutely zero performance aspirations, such as Yaris, Aveo, etc. Scion TC come in 200hp stock versions, with cheapish upgrades into the ~300hp range. Hardly a Vette, but also a world away from 8-second 0-60 times as well.

It's FWD it has no performance aspirations other than making 18-26 year old boys wet in the pants when they talk about JDM YO!!!

It sounds more like you're trying to justify spending a bunch of money on something for the sake of saying you have XYZ, when in fact, those tires do absolutely nothing that a set half as much would do.

Huh? Where did I justify wasting $$$ on expensive tires? I was just defending the SC as not being a typical ~100hp econobox, not painting it as a Vette. ('hardly a Vette, ^^^).

FWD is fine, not ideal for high performance, but yes, there are 10 second FWD cars out there. Not my cup of tea, but it takes all types, no?

A 161 HP I4 in a FWD Carola chassis doesn't have any performance aspirations. The entire Scion brand is an amazing bit of marketing, the sure do have you convinced.

It's an econ-box. That's what it is - dealer installed supercharger or not.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
That slow econo-box has 18" wheels?

TC isnt the box

Econ-box refers to small, I4, tin can cars built for economy...

:roll:

I think that can describe the little 4-bangers that have absolutely zero performance aspirations, such as Yaris, Aveo, etc. Scion TC come in 200hp stock versions, with cheapish upgrades into the ~300hp range. Hardly a Vette, but also a world away from 8-second 0-60 times as well.

It's FWD it has no performance aspirations other than making 18-26 year old boys wet in the pants when they talk about JDM YO!!!

It sounds more like you're trying to justify spending a bunch of money on something for the sake of saying you have XYZ, when in fact, those tires do absolutely nothing that a set half as much would do.

Huh? Where did I justify wasting $$$ on expensive tires? I was just defending the SC as not being a typical ~100hp econobox, not painting it as a Vette. ('hardly a Vette, ^^^).

FWD is fine, not ideal for high performance, but yes, there are 10 second FWD cars out there. Not my cup of tea, but it takes all types, no?

A 161 HP I4 in a FWD Carola chassis doesn't have any performance aspirations. The entire Scion brand is an amazing bit of marketing, the sure do have you convinced.

It's an econ-box. That's what it is - dealer installed supercharger or not.

An econo-box with expensive 18" wheels.

Seriously, I can easily dust one in my stock 4 door family sedan with 17" wheels. I bet Funboy's minivan could easily spank a TC too. :laugh:

The Scion TC is just a sporty looking 2 door econo-box with expensive wheels.

 

[Arkaign]

Performance aspirations? Hell in the 80s, 0-60 in ~7 was sports-car performance. Everything has moved upwards. The fact is, that most econoboxes have 0-60 in 8 to 9, or worse. 7 is pretty snappy. 6 is getting fast, 5 is the range of Mustang GT / 350Z, and the 4s and below are where it gets really meaty.

I don't have to be 'convinced' of anything, the Scion TC w/SC is a pretty quick little car, which delivers GOOD performance even if you don't like 4cyl cars at all. Sure it's slower than the really fast stuff, but that doesn't mean that it's automatically worthless.

But there's nothing wrong with varying opinions, which are just like you know what. Econobox to me = generic cheapo 4cyl with ~150hp or less, delivering performance that is by no means even 'quick'. I don't deny that there are tons of econoboxes out there, doing exactly what they're supposed to do : offer a cheap and efficient means of transportation, usually in a fairly reliable but uninspiring package. I think stuff like the Civic Si and Scion TC offer a nice bridge between these and more purpose-built performance machines. Of course it would be silly to look at the TC as a 'sports car', but only morons would do that. Of course, in my mind, only a moron would say that it has no 'performance aspirations' at all.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
That slow econo-box has 18" wheels?

TC isnt the box

Econ-box refers to small, I4, tin can cars built for economy...

:roll:

I think that can describe the little 4-bangers that have absolutely zero performance aspirations, such as Yaris, Aveo, etc. Scion TC come in 200hp stock versions, with cheapish upgrades into the ~300hp range. Hardly a Vette, but also a world away from 8-second 0-60 times as well.

It's FWD it has no performance aspirations other than making 18-26 year old boys wet in the pants when they talk about JDM YO!!!

It sounds more like you're trying to justify spending a bunch of money on something for the sake of saying you have XYZ, when in fact, those tires do absolutely nothing that a set half as much would do.

Huh? Where did I justify wasting $$$ on expensive tires? I was just defending the SC as not being a typical ~100hp econobox, not painting it as a Vette. ('hardly a Vette, ^^^).

FWD is fine, not ideal for high performance, but yes, there are 10 second FWD cars out there. Not my cup of tea, but it takes all types, no?

A 161 HP I4 in a FWD Carola chassis doesn't have any performance aspirations. The entire Scion brand is an amazing bit of marketing, the sure do have you convinced.

It's an econ-box. That's what it is - dealer installed supercharger or not.

An econo-box with expensive 18" wheels.

Seriously, I can easily dust one in my stock 4 door family sedan with 17" wheels. I bet Funboy's minivan could easily spank a TC too. :laugh:

The Scion TC is just a sporty looking 2 door econo-box with expensive wheels.

Oh boy, another one. Sure, what family sedan do you have? With the HP wars, there are plenty of fast sedans out there (this is a good thing). That said, being faster than 7.2 in 0-60 means you've probably got at least a decent V6 under the hood, if not a nice V8

Agreed on the wheels. 17" should be the max wheel size on a TC, 18"s are retarded for the vehicle. 16" would probably be optimal in all realism.

In my mind, 200hp (or even 160hp) on a nice little chassis doesn't equate to 'econobox'.

See Yaris, Fit, Aveo, Focus, regular Civics, etc, for econobox status. 0-60 in 8-9+, the whole nine yards.

 

[Arkaign]

Ah, obligatory tuned car post :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WskDefCOtgs

Quarter in 12.09 @ 115mph. Aftermarket Turbo setup, stock motor.

15psi, I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole, and I personally think it's a waste of $$ making a fast Scion TC. But you have to admit, a 12-second car would give almost any other stock vehicle fits .. you'd have to bring a Z06 or the like to match/exceed that. So, 'performance aspirations' indeed.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Ah, obligatory tuned car post :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WskDefCOtgs

Quarter in 12.09 @ 115mph. Aftermarket Turbo setup, stock motor.

15psi, I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole, and I personally think it's a waste of $$ making a fast Scion TC. But you have to admit, a 12-second car would give almost any other stock vehicle fits .. you'd have to bring a Z06 or the like to match/exceed that. So, 'performance aspirations' indeed.

I wonder what he's spent to make that car do 12s in the 1/4 mile. Wonder how livable it is as a daily driver.

Unless you are racing (club racing or tracking the car regularly), modding cars is largely just a huge waste of money. I know, I've done it with a Mustang GT. You never get that money back. If you have performance aspirations it's better to just buy a performance car instead of buying a cheap car and throwing money at it.

BTW-I drive a 5th generation Maxima. Believe me, people throw money at those cars to make them faster/handle better but I'm not one of them. You want a hardcore performance machine? Buy a motorcycle. $7k will buy you a bike that can dust almost any street legal production car made.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
That slow econo-box has 18" wheels?

TC isnt the box

Econ-box refers to small, I4, tin can cars built for economy...

:roll:

I think that can describe the little 4-bangers that have absolutely zero performance aspirations, such as Yaris, Aveo, etc. Scion TC come in 200hp stock versions, with cheapish upgrades into the ~300hp range. Hardly a Vette, but also a world away from 8-second 0-60 times as well.

Huge market on importing these to other countries too....it's a decent car for fun.