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Scientists Transfer Info Between Atoms

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Scientists Transfer Info Between Atoms

In a step toward making ultra-powerful computers, scientists have transferred physical characteristics between atoms by using a phenomenon so bizarre that even Albert Einstein called it spooky.

Such "quantum teleportation" of characteristics had been demonstrated before between beams of light.

The work with atoms is "a landmark advance," H.J. Kimble of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, Calif., and S.J. van Enk of Bell Labs in Murray Hill, N.J., declare in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature.

Two teams of scientists report similar results in that issue. One group was led by David J. Wineland of the National Institute of Standards and Technology in Boulder, Colo., and the other by Rainer Blatt of the University of Innsbruck in Austria.

Teleportation between atoms could someday lie at the heart of powerful quantum computers, which are probably at least a decade away from development, Wineland said. Although his work moved information about atomic characteristics only a tiny fraction of an inch, that's in the ballpark for what would be needed inside a computer, he said.

His work involved transmitting characteristics between pairs of beryllium atoms, while the Austrian work used pairs of calcium atoms. Each atom's "quantum state," a complex combination of traits, was transmitted to its counterpart.

Key to the process was a phenomenon called entanglement, which Einstein derided as "spooky action at a distance" before experiments showed it was real.

Basically, researchers can use lab techniques to create a weird relationship between pairs of tiny particles. After that, the fate of one particle instantly affects the other; if one particle is made to take on a certain set of properties, the other immediately takes on identical or opposite properties, no matter how far away it is and without any apparent physical connection to the first particle.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again, reality is the biggest trip of all. I was under the impression that scientists have been able to quantumly entangle atoms for some time now.
 
Subspace communications! Keep one of the atmos here on earth, put the other on the starship Enterprise.

I believe that theory says the information is transmitted instantaneously, even faster than the speed of light, right?
 
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Does anybody else even care?

Yes, but what else is there to say? There are excellent books on this topic, so outside of acknowledging the article what more is to be said?
 
Originally posted by: NogginBoink
Subspace communications! Keep one of the atmos here on earth, put the other on the starship Enterprise.

I believe that theory says the information is transmitted instantaneously, even faster than the speed of light, right?

Yes.
 
Originally posted by: NogginBoink
Subspace communications! Keep one of the atmos here on earth, put the other on the starship Enterprise.

I believe that theory says the information is transmitted instantaneously, even faster than the speed of light, right?
Most things quantum function that way, yes. 😛

I don't know if it does or not. At the very least it's a way to transmit data at lightspeed without anything getting in the way. (y'know, like planets) And barring some other technological advances it could be the basis for "un-jammable" communication.
 
I look forward to the day when I can buy an Intel Quantium or AMD Quantron processor. Overclocking is gonna be a bitch though...
 
Originally posted by: Jigga
I look forward to the day when I can buy an Intel Quantium or AMD Quantron processor. Overclocking is gonna be a bitch though...
Yeah, sure is gonna put a damper on the OC community innit?
 
Sorry boys INFORMATION cannot be transmitted faster than light. None of these scientists are saying so. Note "characteristics" not "information".

What this does do is allow a controlled entaglement, acting as a quantum bit. A bit in silicon is off or on. Entangled system can have more than two states.

Your AMD or Intel processor has definite states. That doesn't "transmit" information to me.


Sorry, computers yes, communicators no.
 
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Sorry boys INFORMATION cannot be transmitted faster than light. None of these scientists are saying so. Note "characteristics" not "information".

What this does do is allow a controlled entaglement, acting as a quantum bit. A bit in silicon is off or on. Entangled system can have more than two states.

Your AMD or Intel processor has definite states. That doesn't "transmit" information to me.


Sorry, computers yes, communicators no.

Can't the bit be simplified in to 2 states?
 
Originally posted by: yellowfiero

Basically, researchers can use lab techniques to create a weird relationship between pairs of tiny particles. After that, the fate of one particle instantly affects the other; if one particle is made to take on a certain set of properties, the other immediately takes on identical or opposite properties, no matter how far away it is and without any apparent physical connection to the first particle.

WTF, how does it communicate over vast distances?
 
Cool stuff, but I was also under the impression they had done this quite a while ago. In fact, I recall that I read an article where they entangled 2 atoms, then used one to entangle another, and possible another or so.

This is cool stuff though, absolutely mind boggling. Imagine taking 2 basketballs, putting them side by side and spinning them both clockwise. Then tell basketball A "now, whatever basketball B does, I want you to do the exact same thing" Then, separate them and put one in Los Angeles and one in NYC. Grab a harlem globetrotter to grab basketball B and spin it the opposite way. Instantly, the basketball in LA realizes this and starts spinning the other way.

Over-simplified, but that's pretty much the idea.
 
Apparently, a friend of mine who's starting his sophomore year heard this story from his Dean, who told it to him as an inspirational story. When he left the office and met up with me again he told me about the atoms and how when one moves (here, he wiggled his outstretched left hand), the other repeats the motion. (Here, he wiggled his right.) He was sufficiently inspired to try to get all A's.
 
two atoms, twins or whatever. one stays on earth, the other goes with the space ship to mars. instead of waiting for radio waves, the info will be 'shot' into one twin atom on earth while at the very same time the other twin on mars will 'shoot' out this information. atleast thats how something like this is suppose to work.

boggles the mind dont it. obviously this universe is nothing like we thought it was and there is a HUGE knowledge gap of what REALLY makes the universe tick. we dont even know what matter is made out of for god sakes.... we dont even know what we are made out of but we are a step closer.

maybe this will lead to the infamous line "beam me up scotty"
 
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: yellowfiero

Basically, researchers can use lab techniques to create a weird relationship between pairs of tiny particles. After that, the fate of one particle instantly affects the other; if one particle is made to take on a certain set of properties, the other immediately takes on identical or opposite properties, no matter how far away it is and without any apparent physical connection to the first particle.

WTF, how does it communicate over vast distances?

magic.
 
Originally posted by: Wahsapa
two atoms, twins or whatever. one stays on earth, the other goes with the space ship to mars. instead of waiting for radio waves, the info will be 'shot' into one twin atom on earth while at the very same time the other twin on mars will 'shoot' out this information. atleast thats how something like this is suppose to work.

boggles the mind dont it. obviously this universe is nothing like we thought it was and there is a HUGE knowledge gap of what REALLY makes the universe tick. we dont even know what matter is made out of for god sakes.... we dont even know what we are made out of but we are a step closer.

maybe this will lead to the infamous line "beam me up scotty"

You don't give science near enough credit. Saying we don't understand matter is absurd simply because we haven't yet quantified the most fundamental constituent. Quantum mechanics has been fantastically valuable for a long time without actually understanding why it works just as Newton's gravity was valuable before Einstein told us why it works. Acting like we don't understand anything implies a very superficial understanding of science.
 
Originally posted by: Wahsapa
two atoms, twins or whatever. one stays on earth, the other goes with the space ship to mars. instead of waiting for radio waves, the info will be 'shot' into one twin atom on earth while at the very same time the other twin on mars will 'shoot' out this information. atleast thats how something like this is suppose to work.

boggles the mind dont it. obviously this universe is nothing like we thought it was and there is a HUGE knowledge gap of what REALLY makes the universe tick. we dont even know what matter is made out of for god sakes.... we dont even know what we are made out of but we are a step closer.

maybe this will lead to the infamous line "beam me up scotty"


No. See my post.

This cannot be used to transmit information.


How does this work? No one has a clue.
 
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