Scientists create a hole in time.

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It's one thing to make an object invisible, like Harry Potter's mythical cloak. But scientists have made an entire event impossible to see. They have invented a time masker.
Think of it as an art heist that takes place before your eyes and surveillance cameras. You don't see the thief strolling into the museum, taking the painting down or walking away, but he did. It's not just that the thief is invisible - his whole activity is.
What scientists at Cornell University did was on a much smaller scale, both in terms of events and time. It happened so quickly that it's not even a blink of an eye. Their time cloak lasts an incredibly tiny fraction of a fraction of a second. They hid an event for 40 picoseconds (trillionths of a second), according to a study appearing in Thursday's edition of the journal Nature.
We see events happening as light from them reaches our eyes. Usually it's a continuous flow of light. In the new research, however, scientists were able to interrupt that flow for just an instant.
Other newly created invisibility cloaks fashioned by scientists move the light beams away in the traditional three dimensions. The Cornell team alters not where the light flows but how fast it moves, changing in the dimension of time, not space.
They tinkered with the speed of beams of light in a way that would make it appear to surveillance cameras or laser security beams that an event, such as an art heist, isn't happening.
Another way to think of it is as if scientists edited or erased a split second of history. It's as if you are watching a movie with a scene inserted that you don't see or notice. It's there in the movie, but it's not something you saw, said study co-author Moti Fridman, a physics researcher at Cornell.
The scientists created a lens of not just light, but time. Their method splits light, speeding up one part of light and slowing down another. It creates a gap and that gap is where an event is masked.
"You kind of create a hole in time where an event takes place," said study co-author Alexander Gaeta, director of Cornell's School of Applied and Engineering Physics. "You just don't know that anything ever happened."



http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-01-pentagon-backed-cloak-clock.html
 

CPA

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I, for one, welcome our Cornell "hole in time" Scientist overlords.
 

Jaepheth

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If a photon collides in a time hole, and no one can observe it, does it still produce a research grant?
 

SlitheryDee

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And this is so much easier to believe in than God?

Someone actually did this. They measured it to the extent that is possible, recorded it, and can do it at will for anyone who wants to see. It isn't miraculous at all. I don't know why you even bring god into the conversation.
 

zanejohnson

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This ties right on to parallel universe theory...and devine intervention ..think. big guys...now we know this is possible....imagine everything this means...its all about those photons from the sun and the electromagnetic wave that's not quite electricity but exists between the sun and the quasar that plays the part of ifs polar opposite
 
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sactoking

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The Cornell team alters not where the light flows but how fast it moves, changing in the dimension of time, not space.
They tinkered with the speed of beams of light in a way that would make it appear to surveillance cameras or laser security beams that an event, such as an art heist, isn't happening.

Professor Hubert Farnsworth: These are the dark matter engines I invented. They allow my starship to travel between galaxies in mere hours.
Cubert J. Farnsworth: That's impossible. You can't go faster than the speed of light.
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: Of course not. That's why scientists increased the speed of light in 2208.
Cubert J. Farnsworth: Also impossible
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: And what makes my engines truly remarkable is the afterburner, which delivers 200% fuel efficiency.
Cubert J. Farnsworth: That's especially impossible.
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: Not at all. It's very simple.
Cubert J. Farnsworth: Then explain it.
Professor Hubert Farnsworth: Now that's impossible! It came to me in a dream, and I forgot it in another dream.
 

zanejohnson

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Imagine a copper wire one end connected to a power source the other to a ground...now pretend the power source is the sun,the negative the potential black hole....see why the sun goes supernova! And everything is eventually poof sucked into the black hole when that happens I think we'll find later that's when IT'S polar opposite comes to fruition...I think we're right on track..to study the universe we need to study very small because we're frankly not capable of studying large and I have a hunch we'd find the same results
 

BurnItDwn

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With exactly the same proof..good reasoning;)

I assume you're just trolling, but perhaps your simply ignorant and require some education. (or maybe it's opposite day?)

"exactly the same proof" is the opposite of reality.

This was an experiment that is repeatable under laboratory conditions. They essentially split the light and then shift it around 'something' via EM waves. creating a little mini "hole in space", a side effect of that is that they can "cloak" an item of minuscule scale for a minuscule amount of time.

It can be difficult to understand, I certainly don't comprehend all the details of HOW exactly it works, but, should not be hard to "believe."


When you say "god" what do you mean exactly? Magical all knowing all powerful creator? Or do you just mean "The laws of nature" or Vishnu perhaps? Or maybe Odin?

If you go by the Christian/Abrahamic definition of god, then it's pretty much easy to prove due to the Omnipotence paradox... example: (Can an omnipotent being create a stone so heavy that it cannot lift it?)

If you go by a more realistic pagan definition of god (Pantheist perhaps, or Goddess), which do not claim omnipotence or omniscience or 'omni-benevolence', then obviously that paradox does not apply, and in many cases, is much harder, or not currently possible to refute. In which case, it's best to calculate the probability of such.

In every case, the probability of the existence of a supernatural "god" is approximately 0.
 

zanejohnson

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When I think of God I think...source...that copied itself...like cell division...this entity lives in all of us that's why we spend so much of our everything concentrating and fighting over it..ideas are more than you'd think...that's kept this entity alive,due to oneness...global consciousness...
 

GagHalfrunt

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Someone actually did this. They measured it to the extent that is possible, recorded it, and can do it at will for anyone who wants to see. It isn't miraculous at all. I don't know why you even bring god into the conversation.

Because the god people are ill-educated, desperate and willing to grasp at any straw no matter how silly it makes them look.
 

nace186

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I assume you're just trolling, but perhaps your simply ignorant and require some education. (or maybe it's opposite day?)

"exactly the same proof" is the opposite of reality.

This was an experiment that is repeatable under laboratory conditions. They essentially split the light and then shift it around 'something' via EM waves. creating a little mini "hole in space", a side effect of that is that they can "cloak" an item of minuscule scale for a minuscule amount of time.

It can be difficult to understand, I certainly don't comprehend all the details of HOW exactly it works, but, should not be hard to "believe."


When you say "god" what do you mean exactly? Magical all knowing all powerful creator? Or do you just mean "The laws of nature" or Vishnu perhaps? Or maybe Odin?

If you go by the Christian/Abrahamic definition of god, then it's pretty much easy to prove due to the Omnipotence paradox... example: (Can an omnipotent being create a stone so heavy that it cannot lift it?)

If you go by a more realistic pagan definition of god (Pantheist perhaps, or Goddess), which do not claim omnipotence or omniscience or 'omni-benevolence', then obviously that paradox does not apply, and in many cases, is much harder, or not currently possible to refute. In which case, it's best to calculate the probability of such.

In every case, the probability of the existence of a supernatural "god" is approximately 0.

Interestingly I read something recently that dealt with that question. The answer is yes. an omnipotent can create it. But after he create it, he can make himself strong enough to lift the stone since he's omnipotent.
 

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Interestingly I read something recently that dealt with that question. The answer is yes. an omnipotent can create it. But after he creates it, he can make himself strong enough to lift the stone since he's omnipotent.
Then the stone failed the first qualification of being to heavy to lift.

The questions is silly though, work smarter, not harder. It could simply "uncreate" the stone; why lift it?
 

RPD

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Someone help me out on this.

Just because you didn't see something doesn't mean it didn't happen.

So how is this covering up time?

Other newly created invisibility cloaks fashioned by scientists move the light beams away in the traditional three dimensions. The Cornell team alters not where the light flows but how fast it moves, changing in the dimension of time, not space.
How is changing the speed of light different then it passing through a medium that it would normally slow down in?
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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Why are our scientists trying to create a hole in time when they should be genetically modifying animals into Pokémon?
 

Perknose

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I'm just glad they created this hole in time.

So many projects miss their deadlines. :(