Scientist Says Iraq Never Revived Nuke Program

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Iraq never revived its secret nuclear weapons program after it was dismantled by U.N. inspectors in the 1990s, a senior Iraqi scientist at Iraq's new Ministry of Science and Technology said Tuesday.

Before launching the war to topple Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, the United States and Britain said Saddam was trying to develop an atomic bomb and other weapons of mass destruction -- a key justification for the U.S.-led invasion.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=3452610

Yes I remember tat speech about the imminent threat Iraq posed with nukes
 

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Bush never said there were WMDs or nuke programs. He could not have, because he would have either been dishonest or incompetent or both. Clearly, this is impossible
 

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Originally posted by: lozina
Iraq never revived its secret nuclear weapons program after it was dismantled by U.N. inspectors in the 1990s, a senior Iraqi scientist at Iraq's new Ministry of Science and Technology said Tuesday.

Before launching the war to topple Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, the United States and Britain said Saddam was trying to develop an atomic bomb and other weapons of mass destruction -- a key justification for the U.S.-led invasion.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=3452610

Yes I remember tat speech about the imminent threat Iraq posed with nukes


Apparently the only true imminent threat America faces comes from the Bush administration.
 

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Bloody liberal media and Bush bashers
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We've only had 1200 men searching for 4 months without finding anything, and the UN didn't find anything. What would a scientist know about it?
And Bush is God as well, and Blair believed it, so it must be true that they have WMD's.

I just thought I'd get in there first, before anyone else who actually believes these statements does.
 

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From the link:

"Before launching the war to topple Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, the United States and Britain said Saddam was trying to develop an atomic bomb and other weapons of mass destruction -- a key justification for the U.S.-led invasion.

U.N. inspectors found no evidence of this during four months of inspections before the war. Since major military action ended in Iraq on May 1, U.S. and British military have still found no proof Saddam had nuclear, chemical or biological arms."


Well, one news organization remembers and is willing to print the subject no one here in America seems to believe is relevant any longer.

Just this past Sunday Cheney just put it all off to the intelligence community and "misspeaking."

And there are Americans who are actually buying it.

This country has really turned the corner on the Bush administration's Iraq fiasco. With thanks in large part to our news media.

WMD and the Bush administration claims are rarely mentioned in the US press. The US public has resigned itself to paying for Iraq in dollars and bodies without even asking for justification of the Bush administration's pre-invasion claims.
 
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"Balasem also dismissed fears that highly radioactive sources had been looted from Iraq's nuclear facilities during the war.

In April, radioactive materials were stolen from nuclear sites, including the country's biggest facility -- the Tuwaitha nuclear research complex outside Baghdad -- raising fears that the looted materials could pose health and security risks.

The IAEA was afraid that highly radioactive nuclear sources were among the missing materials and that they could be used in a dirty bomb -- a conventional bomb laced with radioactive material.

But Balasem said it was impossible for these [highly radioactive nuclear sources] to be stolen."
How could they be stolen, given that they did not exist?
 

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Bloody liberal media and Bush bashers
rolleye.gif

We've only had 1200 men searching for 4 months without finding anything, and the UN didn't find anything. What would a scientist know about it?
And Bush is God as well, and Blair believed it, so it must be true that they have WMD's.

I just thought I'd get in there first, before anyone else who actually believes these statements does.

:D

Before the invasion the Bush administration's policy on WMD in Iraq was, "If they admit they have WMD they lied but if they don't admit having WMD they're lying."

Either way an invasion.

But now no proof of WMD.
 

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
"Balasem also dismissed fears that highly radioactive sources had been looted from Iraq's nuclear facilities during the war.

In April, radioactive materials were stolen from nuclear sites, including the country's biggest facility -- the Tuwaitha nuclear research complex outside Baghdad -- raising fears that the looted materials could pose health and security risks.

The IAEA was afraid that highly radioactive nuclear sources were among the missing materials and that they could be used in a dirty bomb -- a conventional bomb laced with radioactive material.

But Balasem said it was impossible for these [highly radioactive nuclear sources] to be stolen."


How could they be stolen, given that they did not exist?

Iraq had a stockpile of sealed IAEA barrels of radioactive materials that were unfiit for nuclear production. Could be used to create a dirty bomb on the other hand.
 
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Originally posted by: Czar


Iraq had a stockpile of sealed IAEA barrels of radioactive materials that were unfiit for nuclear production. Could be used to create a dirty bomb on the other hand.


Yea, I read the article, too...thank you for your timely insight.

 

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My God you two are grasping at straws and "sexing up" things, aren't you, just to say "THERE! told you so" lol

what a friggin' witch hunt this has all been for the past year

you guy's ain't got NOTHIN' to show for it.
 

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what the scientist said was that Iraq never had a reactor going, and therefore couldn't have produced the materials for the atomic weapons,

however, he made no such claims about their possible biological and chemical weapons, he doesn't rule out that those programs may have been restarted,
 

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: phillyTIM



you guy's ain't got NOTHIN' to show for it.



...you mean our tax dollars going toward public education; 'true dat, yo'


Careful galt. Keep it in the closet.
 

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: fatalbert


what the scientist said was that Iraq never had a reactor going...



...so where did the "highly radioactive nuclear sources" come from? France? :)

those were the leftoevers of the old program sealed by the IAEA immediately after the conflict in the 90s, they were not sufficient to produce weapons grade material
 
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I don't click on 'middleeastreference' links, sorry....If I wanted a biased point-of-view, I would check out the NYT....but I take your word for it, Boobdn; you are always right.
 

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
I don't click on 'middleeastreference' links, sorry....If I wanted a biased point-of-view, I would check out the NYT....but I take your word for it, Boobdn; you are always right.

I notice you didn't respond to the post about the fact that the barrels came from after the gulf war and were known about.
 
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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
I don't click on 'middleeastreference' links, sorry....If I wanted a biased point-of-view, I would check out the NYT....but I take your word for it, Boobdn; you are always right.

I notice you didn't respond to the post about the fact that the barrels came from after the gulf war and were known about.


..but weren't destroyed, correct?
 

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
I don't click on 'middleeastreference' links, sorry....If I wanted a biased point-of-view, I would check out the NYT....but I take your word for it, Boobdn; you are always right.

I notice you didn't respond to the post about the fact that the barrels came from after the gulf war and were known about.


..but weren't destroyed, correct?

they were never supposed to have been destroyed, they were sealed, and the seals were checked by the inspectors regularly(when they were allowed in he country). But, there was never any evidence of tampering, they were checked quite throughly by inspectors after we took control of the complex
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: Ultra Quiet
Why was the centrifuge being hidden under the rose bushes again. I forget.

Bush had the CIA plant it there.

Ok let's assume Saddam ordered them hidden. Is that evidence that Iraq has "restarted it's nuclear weapon development" as Bush administration has claimed?