Schwarzenegger energy policy . . . sounds like Bush

BaliBabyDoc

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"I want a big SUV because I have four children and to protect the family," he said.
Didn't Arnold buy his first Hummer a decade ago? I wonder how many kids he had then.

He said he would work to make SUVs and other vehicles more environmentally friendly by encouraging U.S. automakers to build hydrogen-fueled cars. That could be done via public-private partnerships to build hydrogen fueling stations every 20 miles on California's interstates, he said.

"Hundreds of thousands" of the clean-burning vehicles could be on the state's roads by the end of the decade, he said.
The costs of those fueling stations along CA interstates would be enormous. I wonder how he's going to pay for it? His last statement is about as realistic as his movies.

In addition, he said he would speed the repair of leaking sewer systems and protect the coasts by opposing offshore oil drilling.
The former will require money (a lot) and the latter will require cooperation from the Congress/President that have a firm policy of drill every inch of the country "except the coast of FL".

"We already know Arnold doesn't vote regularly in elections; now we know he doesn't read the papers either."
 

BaliBabyDoc

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I just realized Arnold did a Bush. When he says "hundreds of thousands" of clean-burning vehicles could be on the roads by the end of the decade, he's probably talking about all forms of ULEVII/PZEV. That statement would be true but much of the credit would go to CA pols/regulators that forced automakers to adopt a timetable for selling such vehicles in CA.
 
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Davis has destroyed our state by his idiotic management of the energy crisis and the budget and by sitting on his ass while WCI goes absurdly beyond out of control driving hundreds of thousands of jobs out of the state. Meanwhile, he's passing every extremist liberal agenda any crazed ex-hippy can think up.

Yeah, I'm really upset that Arnold drives a hummer.
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Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Davis has destroyed our state by his idiotic management of the energy crisis and the budget and by sitting on his ass while WCI goes absurdly beyond out of control driving hundreds of thousands of jobs out of the state. Meanwhile, he's passing every extremist liberal agenda any crazed ex-hippy can think up.

Yeah, I'm really upset that Arnold drives a hummer.
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I think Doc's point is that it would be nice if the front running Republican for the job actually had a clue! It doesn't do any good to replace one idiot with another!
 

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What happened to Warren Buffett and the rest of those people who were supposedly going to "help" Ahnuld?

If the people of Cali wanted someone to come in with innovative "business" ideas they should have gotten behind Ueberroth (sp?).
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Davis has destroyed our state by his idiotic management of the energy crisis and the budget and by sitting on his ass while WCI goes absurdly beyond out of control driving hundreds of thousands of jobs out of the state. Meanwhile, he's passing every extremist liberal agenda any crazed ex-hippy can think up.

Yeah, I'm really upset that Arnold drives a hummer.
rolleye.gif
I think Doc's point is that it would be nice if the front running Republican for the job actually had a clue! It doesn't do any good to replace one idiot with another!

Then vote for McClintock, damn it!
 

BaliBabyDoc

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I certainly agree that Davis is to blame for the poor management of the energy crisis (which was created by his GOP predecessor, dit wads in Sacramento, duplicitous/corrupt CA/TX utilties/power generators). But I think the other issues are a different story. Before the recall, Davis was arguably a moderate Dem that lacked support in the left wing of the party. Registered Republicans are not planning to support him so he's fled to the base of CA Democrats to save his administration. Accordingly, his policy decisions have shifted significantly.

You and the other people that supported the recall should enjoy the spoils of "unintended consequences". If the recall is denied you wind up with Davis AND all of his recent policy changes. If the recall succeeds it is certainly possible that Bustamante wins and you get even worse policy. If Schwarzenegger or McClintok wins then you have a governor that lacks a popular mandate (just like Bustamante) that will attempt to get an agenda through a likely hostile legislature. In the meantime, CA will continue to lose jobs and the environment will get worse as Bushies push legislation that will prohibit states from enforcing environmental regulations more stringent than EPA guidelines.

As for Arnold's H1, every Californian knows the majority of your air pollution is a function of vehicle emissions. When your leadership demonstrates clear idiocy or lies (Acura MDX and Volvo XC90 are likely safer forms of family transport. In fact the Acura meets CA ULEV.) what hope should you have for an improvement in CA air quality?

 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Davis has destroyed our state by his idiotic management of the energy crisis and the budget and by sitting on his ass while WCI goes absurdly beyond out of control driving hundreds of thousands of jobs out of the state. Meanwhile, he's passing every extremist liberal agenda any crazed ex-hippy can think up.

Yeah, I'm really upset that Arnold drives a hummer.
rolleye.gif
I think Doc's point is that it would be nice if the front running Republican for the job actually had a clue! It doesn't do any good to replace one idiot with another!

Then vote for McClintock, damn it!
Hehe, right, vote for McClintock. The look in his beady close set cross eyes indicate his attention is 100% on his sphincter. The guy looks like he's taking a perpetual sh!t. Somebody needs to slap him silly.

 
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Davis has destroyed our state by his idiotic management of the energy crisis and the budget and by sitting on his ass while WCI goes absurdly beyond out of control driving hundreds of thousands of jobs out of the state. Meanwhile, he's passing every extremist liberal agenda any crazed ex-hippy can think up.

Yeah, I'm really upset that Arnold drives a hummer.
rolleye.gif
I think Doc's point is that it would be nice if the front running Republican for the job actually had a clue! It doesn't do any good to replace one idiot with another!

Then vote for McClintock, damn it!
Hehe, right, vote for McClintock. The look in his beady close set cross eyes indicate his attention is 100% on his sphincter. The guy looks like he's taking a perpetual sh!t. Somebody needs to slap him silly.

No worse than John Kerry. His eyebrows look like they're slowly crawling off his face. Maybe they don't want to be seen with such a moron.

Besides, MB, nobody's trying to set you up on a blind date with him, we just want him to fix the mess our liberal idiot governor got us in...I'm not sure sexy eyes are a requirement for that.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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The blame being heaped on Davis still defies explanation. The people responsible for the CA energy crisis were Pete Wilson, the CA legislature, CA utilities, energy producers/traders, and FERC. Davis' response to the crisis was poor but it's not like any of the above entities attempted to fix the problems they created (or in the case of FERC . . . allowed to happen).

As for CA budget mess, voter initiatives in California grow like kudzu and they all cost money. You could blame Davis (for signing bills) and the legislature (for writing bills) that exceed CA's means but it's the people that vote for multiple initiatives at each election without nary a word about how to pay for them. Schwarzenegger brags about his after-school initiative that passed during the last election but it likely added tens of millions to CA's deficit.

There's no doubt in my mind that Ueberroth would have a decent chance of managing CA. Schwarzenegger doesn't have a clue. As I said before his "fuel cell proposal" is an expensive, uncertain, long term initiative that will do nothing for the CA environment by the end of the decade plus it will cost billions of dollars without any certainty of success. It will provide jobs if companies do the research in CA but will Schwarzenegger endorse a repeal of CA's extremely generous Family Leave Act? I doubt it. As for McClintok I firmly believe he would slash and burn across CA programs, but the CA GOP treats him like a crazy uncle.