school: taking cool stuff and making it suck

CTho9305

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Is it like that at other colleges? I have so much homework and we move through material so fast you don't get a chance to appreciate any of it. A couple years ago I read "Computer Organization & Design" (Patterson & Hennessy) on my own (this was during high school) and found it really interesting. I read it pretty much cover to cover and understood almost all of it. Now it is the textbook for one of my classes, and it is just much less enjoyable.

I guess it is largely because of homework and the time schedule. If I didn't have stupid homework assignments, I could read the books to understand them to a level that satisfies my desire to understand (generally, I want to understand books entirely), instead of ending up "learning" it just well enough to get the homework done and do ok on tests. And because of the homework, you are forced to move at a certain pace - you can't read 2 chapters in one day and nothing for a week, then come back when you feel like reading some more.

Does this homework system really work better than a system where the prof says "In 3 weeks we have a test on the first 5 chapters of the book. Learn it." and then doesn't require anything from you until the test?

Maybe instead of homework and tests, each student should have to sit down with the prof and answer a bunch of questions verbally to demonstrate comprehension of the material. That would work much better than tests that screw you over because of an arithmetic mistake in the first part of a problem.

An unrelated rant: professors who expect you to show up to lecture, and don't make their notes available. Obviously, I wouldn't want to skip class if I felt I benefitted from it. When the prof just puts you to sleep and sucks at explaining stuff, you learn nothing from attending class but NEED to attend to see what material is being covered :|. Every class I've had with "mandatory" attendance has sucked. I guess the professors who don't require you to attend know that students will because class is worthwhile, but the profs who have mandatory classes know they suck or something. :disgust:
 

Stealth1024

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the last part about the attendance is oh so very true... thankfully attendance is not required in my classes here at RIT... in english class discussion counts for 10% of my grade and if you aren't there then I suppose it would be rather difficult to discuss but anyway..
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I have found that those kids who go to class tend to get better grades! and certainly if you are on the line between an A and a B if the professor knows you have been in class perhaps they will help you out
 

hdeck

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that sucks man. My BIO professor didn't make us buy a textbook. Instead we had to buy his notes and his tests come 75% from the questions he included. Gotta love it.
 

CTho9305

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Maybe instead of homework and tests, each student should have to sit down with the prof and answer a bunch of questions verbally to demonstrate comprehension of the material. That would work much better than tests that screw you over because of an arithmetic mistake in the first part of a problem.

I'm told grad school is more like this. Maybe it won't suck.
 

radioouman

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Originally posted by: CTho9305
Maybe instead of homework and tests, each student should have to sit down with the prof and answer a bunch of questions verbally to demonstrate comprehension of the material. That would work much better than tests that screw you over because of an arithmetic mistake in the first part of a problem.

I'm told grad school is more like this. Maybe it won't suck.


Well, sort of. My grad classes just expect more critical thinking rather than regurgitating the book.
 

Ornery

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"...each student should have to sit down with the prof and answer a bunch of questions verbally to demonstrate comprehension of the material."

Too time consuming.

I'd prefer distance based learning. I hope it becomes more wide spread soon. Imagine not having to commute to school or pay for room & board. Set your own pace and schedule. This far outweighs any negatives I can think of!
 

ElFenix

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my profs usually didn't dock you too hard if you made 1 arithmetic mistake and no more through the problem. trying to figure out how to make the notes stay organized keeps you awake, btw.
 

SithSolo1

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I had a lecture class last year. 150 studnets and we had to sign a role sheet! We got 1 free day but every day we missed after that was 5 points off our final average. Needless to say I failed that class, stupid Art History.
 

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Originally posted by: SithSolo1
I had a lecture class last year. 150 studnets and we had to sign a role sheet! We got 1 free day but every day we missed after that was 5 points off our final average. Needless to say I failed that class, stupid Art History.
I've got two classes this semester with 70 or 80 students and the teachers require attendance and check it. In one, a graduate assistant goes around at the beginning of class and checks all the seats (they're numbered and they made us fill out an index card at the beginning of the semester). In the other, the teacher passes around a roll sheet. What I didn't understand about today's class, though? We had a test and she still passed the roll around. How hard is it to figure out who wasn't in class based on who took the test and who didn't?