School project for speech help me deicide which you rather build or buy...........

[dighn]

Originally posted by: Tyler

Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
Because knowing it has little value to PCs. Sure, you can probably use it to find a pin-out for modding or something, but there's the internet for that.

How does it have any less to do with PCs that what I mentioned? I could get by without IDE drives alot better than I could get by without an arithmetic unit in my CPU.

come on think what pc enthusiasts really are. we all know most pc enthusiasts aren't as technical as engineers and programmers. and comp engineers aren't necessarily pc enthusiasts. you are delibrately treating the words too literally for your argument.

 

[Kadarin]

Build:

Better education with regard to individual components (i.e. which cpu/chipset/motherboard combo works best and why).
Cheaper, you get to pick and choose individual components for best deal and to fit your needs.
You choose which OS goes on the machine.
No wacky preinstalled advertising or proprietary horse poop.
No wacky, unconventional "restore" CDs.

 

[Jmmsbnd007]

Originally posted by: Tyler

Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
Because knowing it has little value to PCs. Sure, you can probably use it to find a pin-out for modding or something, but there's the internet for that.

How does it have any less to do with PCs that what I mentioned? I could get by without IDE drives alot better than I could get by without an arithmetic unit in my CPU.

But you're missing the whole point! The arithmetic unit is a totally no-go area. You can't just open up a door on the CPU and put one in... it's all included, there is no modifications required to a CPU to make it work when you buy it.

 

[Howard]

Build.

1. I know exactly what goes into it.
2. The total cost is often less than what it would be for a comparable system from any vendor.
3. Putting it together and watching it boot up is pretty fun.
4. I have control over every single option (and not all companies stock PCs with the exact options I would like).
5. If I buy, I have no control over the aesthetics of the case, and if I replace the case, that's just wasting time.
6. No hidden tricks, software, etc.

 

[Ornery]

Dimension 4550 2.53GHz Desktop for $339.00

• AGP Slot
  256MB DDR
  30GB HD
  48x CDRW or 16x DVD
  32MB Rage
  Integrated NIC & Audio
  XP Home
  WordPerfect
  1yr warranty

You guys can custom build for this price? Yeah, you bet!

 

[her209]

To make it super cheap, build a fabrication plant.

 

[vi edit]

come on think what pc enthusiasts really are. we all know most pc enthusiasts aren't as technical as engineers and programmers. and comp engineers aren't necessarily pc enthusiasts. you are delibrately treating the words too literally for your argument.

An enthusiast of any group is nothing more than a person that THINKS they know more than the "lay" person about their specific niche and is unable discuss or debate the topic in an objective and logical manner.

Bottom line is that for 99% of the people out there, a bought PC is going to give them exactly what they need for cheaper, and for less headaches than a built system.

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
it's all included, there is no modifications required to a CPU to make it work when you buy it.

Yeah, like a pre-assembled PC.

 

[Yossarian]

Really the only reasons anymore to build your own are to have total control of what goes in it and because you like to do it. You can't touch Dell when it comes to price if you were to legitimately purchase the OS and all the software the system comes with.

 

[brtspears2]

Build, at least I could replace major parts without much difficulty.

This wouldn't be a good place to do stats. This consitutes a non-random sample, stats wont be valid.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: brtspears2
Build, at least I could replace major parts without much difficulty.

This wouldn't be a good place to do stats. This consitutes a non-random sample, stats wont be valid.

The only things I CAN'T replace in any modern dell easily are the motherboard and the powersupply. But really, with as cheap as they are anymore, it's just as good to replace the whole system and give the old one to Mom & Dad or Grandma & Grandpa.

WIth the new dells coming out, I can yank out just about any part I want in under 30 seconds, same goes for putting something into them. I have yet to find a case that is as friendly to work with as an Optiplex. Those cases flat out rock.

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

come on think what pc enthusiasts really are. we all know most pc enthusiasts aren't as technical as engineers and programmers. and comp engineers aren't necessarily pc enthusiasts. you are delibrately treating the words too literally for your argument.

An enthusiast of any group is nothing more than a person that THINKS they know more than the "lay" person about their specific niche and is unable discuss or debate the topic in an objective and logical manner.

exactly my point. you dont need to be very technical to be a pc enthusiasts. and building pcs is a qruirement to be a pc enthusiast! 🙂

just a side note personally i dont consider myself a pc enthusiasts because i dont follow all the new chipsets, mobos etc. but that doesn'tmea i dont like/konw about computers

 

[Ornery]

I still don't know which way to answer that damn poll! Not enough choices!

 

[Cerb]

Advantages of buying:
-It works. It...works.

Advantages of building:
-Control. I know what parts are going in it and why. I know how good they are. I know there won't be a marginal PSU, missing slots, etc.
-Performance. I'll have a real copy of the OS(es) to use. No roll-back performance-hogging BS, No additional programs I'll never use sitting in the background. I can tweak the hardware and software to my wants.
-Enjoyment. If I can do aomething myself as well as getting it already made, I'll do it.

If I were to suggest buying it'd be a Dell. Compaq and HP can shove it. When someone wants a new computer, here's their choices:
-Me. Good price, good components, and I'm a perfectionist. I *hate* having problems that are not solved, and I tell the whole truth of the matter if something is wrong.
-Dell. Not quite as good price (sans LCD), slightly less performance, good warranty, if not support. If you feel better about it, do it.
-Gateway: As long as it isn't the low end, I'll work on it.
-HP, Compaq, E-machines, etc.: You can get them, but they are cheaper for a reason. If you get one and it breaks, don't expect me to do anything except recommend a new, better, PC.

 

[Jmmsbnd007]

Originally posted by: Tyler

Originally posted by: Jmmsbnd007
it's all included, there is no modifications required to a CPU to make it work when you buy it.

Yeah, like a pre-assembled PC.

A pre-assembled PC is for n00bs who can't build their own. Your logic is flawed. You don't need to know the gear ratio of the 3rd gear in your automatic transmission to make it work. When was the last time a Ford listed it's third gear gear-ratio for the Explorer?

 

[cherrytwist]

After years of building my own machines, I broke down and bought a Dell.

Cheap, quiet, nice looking and most importantly, cheap.

Never in a million years did I think I'd move from AMD to Intel. I took advantage of a deal from the hot deal forum and haven't looked back.

Did I mention how cheap it was?

 

[Ornery]

That gal I just helped aquire a Dell, was asking how to get into the case to install the modem. She starts poking around and says, "What's this back here?" Lifts the lever and the side flops open. Should have seen her face. She was grinning almost as much as when I told her the price. 🙂

 

[BmXStuD]

lovly man keep the poll votes coming making it seem good for my powerpoint graph!

 

[BmXStuD]

anymore peeps ;0?

 

[BmXStuD]

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