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School cop body-slams 6th grade girl to floor

Vertical video makes me sad panda.

Impossible to tell if it was bad or not as the video had been edited to start with it and didn't show what she did.
 
Looks bad but need more information. No info on what happened, she was clearly resisting and making it difficult for him to remove her from the location but that looks like a bit much.
 
PokerGuy said:
Without context and further information, it's hard to tell if the action was warranted or not.
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If a cop can't restrain a 12yo girl without body slamming her he probably has no business being a cop. I don't give a shit what the context was. He already had her restrained anyway.
 
dank69 said:
If a cop can't restrain a 12yo girl without body slamming her he probably has no business being a cop. I don't give a shit what the context was. He already had her restrained anyway.
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Or you could say if teachers can't control 12 year old kids without needing to have on premises a uniformed police officer to assist, then they have no business being teachers. It's hard to credibly act surprised when violence is dished out in response to bad behavior when your school's primary escalation path for dealing with said bad behavior is to summon their personal agent of the state; an agent who is expressly authorized by the state to commit violence on the state's behalf to "maintain order". Sure you can blame the cop in any given instance, but the bigger problem is that we as a society have determined that we can't keep schools safe unless we have armed police officers on hand, which is akin to saying we can't keep our cars safe from being stolen unless we equip them with 'anti-theft flamethrowers' like they do in South Africa.

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glenn1 said:
Or you could say if teachers can't control 12 year old kids without needing to have on premises a uniformed police officer to assist, then they have no business being teachers. It's hard to credibly act surprised when violence is dished out in response to bad behavior when your school's primary escalation path for dealing with said bad behavior is to summon their personal agent of the state; an agent who is expressly authorized by the state to commit violence on the state's behalf to "maintain order". Sure you can blame the cop in any given instance, but the bigger problem is that we as a society have determined that we can't keep schools safe unless we have armed police officers on hand, which is akin to saying we can't keep our cars safe from being stolen unless we equip them with 'anti-theft flamethrowers' like they do in South Africa.
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Yep. We've empowered teenagers to the point where teachers will receive strict punishment for saying NO to the little prince/ss - that they can be completely rude little turds with no fear of punishment. Then along comes an even-higher authority figure they also refuse to respect and then do what the 'progressives' have taught them to do - cry "victim" when punished for their own misbehaviour.

After all - there's no such thing as "wrong", and the only "bad" things are what the progressives call 'bad' -- wrongthink like (the new definitions of) 'rape' or 'racism' or 'sexism' etc. Flipping off the teacher (etc) doesn't fall into that mode of thought since 'respect for authority' is frowned on by 'progressive groupthink'.
 
glenn1 said:
Or you could say if teachers can't control 12 year old kids without needing to have on premises a uniformed police officer to assist, then they have no business being teachers. It's hard to credibly act surprised when violence is dished out in response to bad behavior when your school's primary escalation path for dealing with said bad behavior is to summon their personal agent of the state; an agent who is expressly authorized by the state to commit violence on the state's behalf to "maintain order". Sure you can blame the cop in any given instance, but the bigger problem is that we as a society have determined that we can't keep schools safe unless we have armed police officers on hand, which is akin to saying we can't keep our cars safe from being stolen unless we equip them with 'anti-theft flamethrowers' like they do in South Africa.
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I agree with you to a degree, but if you're at all familiar with the kind of people in some schools, having armed officers there is pretty much a requirement, and even then is not sufficient to keep things orderly. I can't imagine being a teacher in one of those schools. Being a teacher in any environment is hard, being a teacher in some schools pretty much justifies combat pay.
 
Aaaaaand the crazy comes in, six posts down the line. Lord almighty.


Wonder what the police officer was called in for. Did she have drugs? She threatened someone?
 
dank69 said:
If a cop can't restrain a 12yo girl without body slamming her he probably has no business being a cop. I don't give a sh*t what the context was. He already had her restrained anyway.
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We'll have to disagree on that one. The context matters a ton, and I can think of plenty of situations where a cop has to take decisive immediate action to get something under control right away. There might have been other threats involved as well.
 
MajinCry said:
Aaaaaand the crazy comes in, six posts down the line. Lord almighty.


Wonder what the police officer was called in for. Did she have drugs? She threatened someone?
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We don't have the context, of course, but most folks would be surprised how ridiculously strong (and resistant to pain, etc.) people can be when strung out on drugs, etc.
 
MajinCry said:
Aaaaaand the crazy comes in, six posts down the line. Lord almighty.


Wonder what the police officer was called in for. Did she have drugs? She threatened someone?
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Looks like we don't know yet, she could've had drugs or weapons. So until more detail comes out, can't judge it. Just because someone is 12 doesn't mean they aren't dangerous to their peers or the authority figure.
 
It seems like it should be policy that unless a child is a danger to himself/herself or others, adults shouldn't be touching them. Being defiant doesn't warrant a physical altercation not matter how disrupting it is to the class.
 
TheSiege said:
It seems like it should be policy that unless a child is a danger to himself/herself or others, adults shouldn't be touching them. Being defiant doesn't warrant a physical altercation not matter how disrupting it is to the class.
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Why? If a kid refuses to do something (like leave the classroom when they are told), how would you suggest they resolve the matter? I agree it shouldn't be the first resort, but ultimately, if talking doesn't bring about a resolution, then it's really no different for a kid in school versus one outside on the street doing something they shouldn't: you will be forced to comply, one way or another.
 
TheSiege said:
It seems like it should be policy that unless a child is a danger to himself/herself or others, adults shouldn't be touching them. Being defiant doesn't warrant a physical altercation not matter how disrupting it is to the class.
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why should i suffer from being taught when some asshat miscreant, snot nosed kid can't shut their fucking trap and stop being disruptive?
 
PokerGuy said:
Why? If a kid refuses to do something (like leave the classroom when they are told), how would you suggest they resolve the matter? I agree it shouldn't be the first resort, but ultimately, if talking doesn't bring about a resolution, then it's really no different for a kid in school versus one outside on the street doing something they shouldn't: you will be forced to comply, one way or another.
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Call their parents. Move the class. The class is what, an hour long. They can deal with a loss of an hour. How much of distraction has this now become for the school? Not including lost time and money.
 
Linux23 said:
why should i suffer from being taught when some asshat miscreant, snot nosed kid can't shut their fucking trap and stop being disruptive?
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exactly.

IF one student refuses to leave and is causing a distraction why should hte other students in the class. those that are paying attention and want to learn. why should they be punished because one student is acting out.

granted removing them causes a distraction but maybe it will keep others from doing it also.

this is also my problem about forcing kids to go to school. yes i know it's better for them and society to have them educated. But is it better for them to distract the class and take time away from the other students?
 
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