Scholars Question Cheney's Role in 9/11

[noto12ious]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Queasy
LMAO...I love these conspiracy threads.

What happened to all the people that were on these planes? Are they all in witness relocation programs? Did they never exist?

Shhh - only the conspiracy theorists can ask questions. They are pursuing the truth.

Out of about 50 threads on this, no tinfoily has ever even attempted to answer that most basic question

You haven't been doing your homework I enjoy watching you squirm due to the facts coming out, especially with regards to controlled demolition at WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7.


It looks like you tried to chime in with your "tinfoil hat" remarks in the following thread listed below (but then you conveniently disappeared after more information emerged)

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

This offers some possibilities, Queasy...that is, if you bothered do to your homework:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change+2

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Queasy
LMAO...I love these conspiracy threads.

What happened to all the people that were on these planes? Are they all in witness relocation programs? Did they never exist?

Shhh - only the conspiracy theorists can ask questions. They are pursuing the truth.

Out of about 50 threads on this, no tinfoily has ever even attempted to answer that most basic question

You haven't been doing your homework I enjoy watching you squirm due to the facts coming out, especially with regards to controlled demolition at WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

This offers some possibilities, Queasy...that is, if you bothered do to your homework:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change+2

Do you even read any of the responses here, or just post the same boring links which have been debunked here?

Answer the question... .don't point us to what somebody else thinks. Tell us what you think and then stand behind that!

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: MathMan

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Queasy
LMAO...I love these conspiracy threads.

What happened to all the people that were on these planes? Are they all in witness relocation programs? Did they never exist?

Shhh - only the conspiracy theorists can ask questions. They are pursuing the truth.

Out of about 50 threads on this, no tinfoily has ever even attempted to answer that most basic question

You haven't been doing your homework I enjoy watching you squirm due to the facts coming out, especially with regards to controlled demolition at WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

This offers some possibilities, Queasy...that is, if you bothered do to your homework:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change+2

Do you even read any of the responses here, or just post the same boring links which have been debunked here?

Answer the question... .don't point us to what somebody else thinks. Tell us what you think and then stand behind that!

Don't hold your breath.

These are non-partisan scholars and experts, how dare you question them with the most basic premise!

 

[noto12ious]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: MathMan

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Queasy
LMAO...I love these conspiracy threads.

What happened to all the people that were on these planes? Are they all in witness relocation programs? Did they never exist?

Shhh - only the conspiracy theorists can ask questions. They are pursuing the truth.

Out of about 50 threads on this, no tinfoily has ever even attempted to answer that most basic question

You haven't been doing your homework I enjoy watching you squirm due to the facts coming out, especially with regards to controlled demolition at WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

This offers some possibilities, Queasy...that is, if you bothered do to your homework:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change+2

Do you even read any of the responses here, or just post the same boring links which have been debunked here?

Answer the question... .don't point us to what somebody else thinks. Tell us what you think and then stand behind that!

Don't hold your breath.

These are non-partisan scholars and experts, how dare you question them with the most basic premise!

Controlled demolition at WTC has never been debunked, much to your dissappointment. In fact, the attempts at debunking have been debunked... and more people are being exposed to the facts everday...ie, WTC7 was ommitted from the 9/11 Commission Report because there was no plausible reason for its collapse other than controlled demolition. Even FEMA couldn't come up with a good reason for WTC7's "collapse". FEMA also admitted the only reason for the collapse they could come up with had a "low probability" of occurring.

What happened to the people on the planes? I'm not sure. I haven't researched enough about that matter to make an informed judgement, thus I pointed out some possibilities (through the link) that other people have already discussed.

Let's see how long it takes for alchemize to dissappear from this thread. He ran away from the other one, conveniently
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

 

[aswedc]

Wait just one second. Why wasn't the Pentagon evacuated if Cheney knew? Isn't this the most obvious crime to prosecute? It should be easy to prove - either Mineta's testimony is true or it's not.

 

[gigapet]

Cheney's role? Wasn't it Vice President of the United States Of America?

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: MathMan

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Queasy
LMAO...I love these conspiracy threads.

What happened to all the people that were on these planes? Are they all in witness relocation programs? Did they never exist?

Shhh - only the conspiracy theorists can ask questions. They are pursuing the truth.

Out of about 50 threads on this, no tinfoily has ever even attempted to answer that most basic question

You haven't been doing your homework I enjoy watching you squirm due to the facts coming out, especially with regards to controlled demolition at WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

This offers some possibilities, Queasy...that is, if you bothered do to your homework:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change+2

Do you even read any of the responses here, or just post the same boring links which have been debunked here?

Answer the question... .don't point us to what somebody else thinks. Tell us what you think and then stand behind that!

Don't hold your breath.

These are non-partisan scholars and experts, how dare you question them with the most basic premise!

Controlled demolition at WTC has never been debunked, much to your dissappointment. In fact, the attempts at debunking have been debunked... and more people are being exposed to the facts everday...ie, WTC7 was ommitted from the 9/11 Commission Report because there was no plausible reason for its collapse other than controlled demolition. Even FEMA couldn't come up with a good reason for WTC7's "collapse". FEMA also admitted the only reason for the collapse they could come up with had a "low probability" of occurring.

What happened to the people on the planes? I'm not sure. I haven't researched enough about that matter to make an informed judgement, thus I pointed out some possibilities (through the link) that other people have already discussed.

Let's see how long it takes for alchemize to dissappear from this thread. He ran away from the other one, conveniently
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

So you don't see a teeny hole in your conspiracy theory with the "missing passengers" (not to mention where is the missing plane)? Cant you focus on the question at hand instead of tossing out more "what ifs"?

If you can't say what happened to the passengers, then your "missile hit the pentagon" theory is debunked. If you still feel like playing after we resolve this one, then we can move onto the rest.

 

[noto12ious]

Originally posted by: aswedc
Wait just one second. Why wasn't the Pentagon evacuated if Cheney knew? Isn't this the most obvious crime to prosecute? It should be easy to prove - either Mineta's testimony is true or it's not.

Exactly.

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: MathMan

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Queasy
LMAO...I love these conspiracy threads.

What happened to all the people that were on these planes? Are they all in witness relocation programs? Did they never exist?

Shhh - only the conspiracy theorists can ask questions. They are pursuing the truth.

Out of about 50 threads on this, no tinfoily has ever even attempted to answer that most basic question

You haven't been doing your homework I enjoy watching you squirm due to the facts coming out, especially with regards to controlled demolition at WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

This offers some possibilities, Queasy...that is, if you bothered do to your homework:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change+2

Do you even read any of the responses here, or just post the same boring links which have been debunked here?

Answer the question... .don't point us to what somebody else thinks. Tell us what you think and then stand behind that!

Don't hold your breath.

These are non-partisan scholars and experts, how dare you question them with the most basic premise!

Controlled demolition at WTC has never been debunked, much to your dissappointment. In fact, the attempts at debunking have been debunked... and more people are being exposed to the facts everday...ie, WTC7 was ommitted from the 9/11 Commission Report because there was no plausible reason for its collapse other than controlled demolition. Even FEMA couldn't come up with a good reason for WTC7's "collapse". FEMA also admitted the only reason for the collapse they could come up with had a "low probability" of occurring.

What happened to the people on the planes? I'm not sure. I haven't researched enough about that matter to make an informed judgement, thus I pointed out some possibilities (through the link) that other people have already discussed.

Let's see how long it takes for alchemize to dissappear from this thread. He ran away from the other one, conveniently
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

Okay... tell me about WTC7.

You say that FEMA concluded they have no idea why it fell-- although that defies logic somewhat. How hard is to see that WTC7 collapsed because it shared a foundation with two 100+ story skysrapers that tumbled??

But tell me in your own words why you think WTC7 would've been bombed or brought down on purpose. What point does it serve? How does it further a specific agenda? And does it do it enough to risk being exposed? If the collapse of WTC7 was planned-- it definately posed a risk as the collapse happened when every available news reporter and photographer was in the vicinity taking pictures of the collapsed WTC buildings.

So, why risk it?

 

[noto12ious]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: MathMan

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Queasy
LMAO...I love these conspiracy threads.

What happened to all the people that were on these planes? Are they all in witness relocation programs? Did they never exist?

Shhh - only the conspiracy theorists can ask questions. They are pursuing the truth.

Out of about 50 threads on this, no tinfoily has ever even attempted to answer that most basic question

You haven't been doing your homework I enjoy watching you squirm due to the facts coming out, especially with regards to controlled demolition at WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

This offers some possibilities, Queasy...that is, if you bothered do to your homework:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change+2

Do you even read any of the responses here, or just post the same boring links which have been debunked here?

Answer the question... .don't point us to what somebody else thinks. Tell us what you think and then stand behind that!

Don't hold your breath.

These are non-partisan scholars and experts, how dare you question them with the most basic premise!

Controlled demolition at WTC has never been debunked, much to your dissappointment. In fact, the attempts at debunking have been debunked... and more people are being exposed to the facts everday...ie, WTC7 was ommitted from the 9/11 Commission Report because there was no plausible reason for its collapse other than controlled demolition. Even FEMA couldn't come up with a good reason for WTC7's "collapse". FEMA also admitted the only reason for the collapse they could come up with had a "low probability" of occurring.

What happened to the people on the planes? I'm not sure. I haven't researched enough about that matter to make an informed judgement, thus I pointed out some possibilities (through the link) that other people have already discussed.

Let's see how long it takes for alchemize to dissappear from this thread. He ran away from the other one, conveniently
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

So you don't see a teeny hole in your conspiracy theory with the "missing passengers" (not to mention where is the missing plane)? Cant you focus on the question at hand instead of tossing out more "what ifs"?

If you can't say what happened to the passengers, then your "missile hit the pentagon" theory is debunked. If you still feel like playing after we resolve this one, then we can move onto the rest.

LOL. When did I EVER say a missile hit the Pentagon? I never did. Not once. Nowhere did I say a missile hit the Pentagon. You're going to have to try harder than that...or you can dissappear from this thread like you did the other one

For the record, I believe a plane did hit the Pentagon. What type of plane? I'm not sure.


By the way, controlled demolition at WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 are unrelated to the Pentagon... although it's hilarious how you tried to group them all together. Tsk Tsk.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: gigapet
Cheney's role? Wasn't it Vice President of the United States Of America?

It was target practice, So he could shoot some guy several years later and not kill him.

 

[MikeMike]

wtf was the purpose of moving this into OT...

 

[noto12ious]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
wtf was the purpose of moving this into OT...

I believe a few people started crying to the mods.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: MathMan

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: alchemize

Originally posted by: Queasy
LMAO...I love these conspiracy threads.

What happened to all the people that were on these planes? Are they all in witness relocation programs? Did they never exist?

Shhh - only the conspiracy theorists can ask questions. They are pursuing the truth.

Out of about 50 threads on this, no tinfoily has ever even attempted to answer that most basic question

You haven't been doing your homework I enjoy watching you squirm due to the facts coming out, especially with regards to controlled demolition at WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

This offers some possibilities, Queasy...that is, if you bothered do to your homework:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change+2

Do you even read any of the responses here, or just post the same boring links which have been debunked here?

Answer the question... .don't point us to what somebody else thinks. Tell us what you think and then stand behind that!

Don't hold your breath.

These are non-partisan scholars and experts, how dare you question them with the most basic premise!

Controlled demolition at WTC has never been debunked, much to your dissappointment. In fact, the attempts at debunking have been debunked... and more people are being exposed to the facts everday...ie, WTC7 was ommitted from the 9/11 Commission Report because there was no plausible reason for its collapse other than controlled demolition. Even FEMA couldn't come up with a good reason for WTC7's "collapse". FEMA also admitted the only reason for the collapse they could come up with had a "low probability" of occurring.

What happened to the people on the planes? I'm not sure. I haven't researched enough about that matter to make an informed judgement, thus I pointed out some possibilities (through the link) that other people have already discussed.

Let's see how long it takes for alchemize to dissappear from this thread. He ran away from the other one, conveniently
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

So you don't see a teeny hole in your conspiracy theory with the "missing passengers" (not to mention where is the missing plane)? Cant you focus on the question at hand instead of tossing out more "what ifs"?

If you can't say what happened to the passengers, then your "missile hit the pentagon" theory is debunked. If you still feel like playing after we resolve this one, then we can move onto the rest.

LOL. When did I EVER say a missile hit the Pentagon? I never did. Not once. Nowhere did I say a missile hit the Pentagon. You're going to have to try harder than that...or you can dissappear from this thread like you did the other one

For the record, I believe a plane did hit the Pentagon. What type of plane? I'm not sure.


By the way, controlled demolition at WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 are unrelated to the Pentagon... although it's hilarious how you tried to group them all together. Tsk Tsk.

Very good - now let's move onto the "controlled demolition" theory.

1) Do you have any sworn statements from people involved purchasing, placing or activating the charges?
2) Do you have any physical evidence? (detanators, cords, etc.)
Otherwise it's nothing but a theory, and a bad one at that.

 

[JEDIYoda]

That why this thread was moved to OFF Topid!!

Thiws subject has been thouroughly dissected!!!

The arguments for a conspiracy theorie have all been totally debunked and thrashed by the intelligent members of these forums!!!

The people who are for a constipation thoerie never post any new or plausible arguments.

Its not that we are for or against Bush!!!

What it comes down too is there are no facts to support a 9/11 conspiracy theorie.

T^he so called engineers who say it was a controlled demolition -- they have been throughly debunked.

Those who claim George W or Cheney had some knowledge before the fact and still allowed it to happen-- all that has been debunked.

Again Thank You Mods for see this topic for it is...
Dribble and more dribble!!

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
wtf was the purpose of moving this into OT...

That's what I don't understand... it's like moving the urinal right next to the office watercooler....

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
wtf was the purpose of moving this into OT...

I believe a few people started crying to the mods.

Do you know just how many rediculous 9/11 conspiracy theory threads there are on these boards?

WTF makes you so special that you believe you warrant your very own? :disgust:

 

[CrackRabbit]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
wtf was the purpose of moving this into OT...

No kidding, I thought P&N is where the kiddie sandbox was.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
wtf was the purpose of moving this into OT...

I believe a few people started crying to the mods.

Do you know just how many rediculous 9/11 conspiracy theory threads there are on these boards?

WTF makes you so special that you believe you warrant your very own? :disgust:

hey, i have tinfoil hats for $30

this thread is now about Bagels and your favorite kind.

i prefer blueberry bagels with blueberry cream cheese

 

[noto12ious]

I'm going to stop quoting large posts... so it makes this thread easier to read.

Okay... tell me about WTC7.

You say that FEMA concluded they have no idea why it fell-- although that defies logic somewhat. How hard is to see that WTC7 collapsed because it shared a foundation with two 100+ story skysrapers that tumbled??

But tell me in your own words why you think WTC7 would've been bombed or brought down on purpose. What point does it serve? How does it further a specific agenda? And does it do it enough to risk being exposed? If the collapse of WTC7 was planned-- it definately posed a risk as the collapse happened when every available news reporter and photographer was in the vicinity taking pictures of the collapsed WTC buildings.

So, why risk it?

I would suggest viewing this link...MSNBC did a short interview with a professor from BYU, but they refused to show footage of WTC7's collapse (how convenient).
http://www.question911.com/linkout.php?...hows%20WTC%20Demolition%20Evidence.wmv

Why would WTC7 have been intentionally destroyed?
As someone else stated in another thread:

http://www.wtc7.net/contents.html

"It contained thousands of sensitive SEC files that many corrupt friends of this administration wanted destroyed"

Also, the mayor's bunker was located in WTC7.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: noto12ious

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
wtf was the purpose of moving this into OT...

I believe a few people started crying to the mods.

Do you know just how many rediculous 9/11 conspiracy theory threads there are on these boards?

WTF makes you so special that you believe you warrant your very own? :disgust:

hey, i have tinfoil hats for $30

this thread is now about Bagels and your favorite kind.

i prefer blueberry bagels with blueberry cream cheese

Bagels? This thread is about pie! Oddly enough, I prefer blueberry pie with blueberry cream cheese. Small world!

 

[acemcmac]

What the hell is this doing in OT?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
What the hell is this doing in OT?

Did you forget to read the OP?

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: acemcmac
What the hell is this doing in OT?

Did you forget to read the OP?

take this ****** and lock it already, there is NO purpose for you to have moved it into OT. OT does not NEED this crap, flamefests are always occuring in P&N, just lock it up and let it die already...


Blueberry Pie is just damn good, why would you put cream cheese on it?

 

[noto12ious]

Very good - now let's move onto the "controlled demolition" theory.

1) Do you have any sworn statements from people involved purchasing, placing or activating the charges?
2) Do you have any physical evidence? (detanators, cords, etc.)
Otherwise it's nothing but a theory, and a bad one at that

You just might be surprised. I'm in a rush, so I'll give you a quick rundown...I'll follow up with more facts later in the afternoon when I return.

1) sworn statements by the ones who planted the charges? haha.

There have been many accounts given by firefighters / news reporters / police crews / citizens... of numerous explosions on the lower floors prior to the collapse of both towers. You realize that to this very day, the government and the 9/11 Commission have refused to acknowledge these explosions took place, right?

See these for starters:
short 6 minute video of witnesses reporting explosions:
http://www.mypetgoat.tv/video/Bomb_Montage.WMV

A few other short video clips for detonation devices having been found:
http://media.putfile.com/911-WTC-Reporter-Secondary-Explosions-CNN-News

http://media.putfile.com/911-WTC-Police-Found-Explosives-Rick-Sanchez

USA Today reported that the FBI believed that bombs in the buildings brought the buildings down. (realplayer needed)http://terrorize.dk/911/comments/911.wtc.truck.bombs.fbi.jack.kelley.rm


Also, more corroborating footage:
video link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=eyewitness

Time frame 46:55 - 48:10 ... watch the red box (an enlargement of the red boxed area is on the right side of the screen)...you'll see white smoke rising from the ground at the exact same time you hear the explosions, then subsequent collapse of WTC1 10 seconds later


That particular footage shown above...where you can hear explosions 10 seconds before collapse + see street dust clouds rising before the collapse.... corroborates with what you see in this next clip (An earthquake type rumble shakes the camera 10 seconds before the collapse of WTC1 starts... and small debris falls off the right side of the building):

video link: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtcshake.mpg



You want demolition squibs too? How about the results of demolition squibs being seen 40-50 stories below the collapse point?

Single image: http://terrorize.dk/911/wtc2dem4/1696-01.jpg

Actual Fox News Video: http://images.indymedia.org/imc/ontario/wtc-2_demolition_waves.mpg


other photos of demolition squibs, different side of the building:
http://terrorize.dk/911/wtc2dem12/demolition.wave.170.jpg
http://terrorize.dk/911/wtc2dem12/burst.3.jpg

More pictures of demolition squibs:
http://usera.imagecave.com/BoneZ/911-2.jpg
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5459/522/1600/squib.jpg

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/collapses/squibs.html


You want demolition squibs for WTC7 too?
http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/Flashes/squibs_along_southwest_corner.htm


2) We would've had physical evidence (ie, molten steel to examine), but the debris was illegal removed from the crime scene and shipped overseas to China / India to be melted... to the objections of people who were actually paying attention (links will be given later this afternoon when I return).

Molten steel was found on the lower levels / substructures (as reported by numerous ground zero crews)... yet the steel on the upper floors did not reach melting temperatures, contary to popular belief (as admitted by numerous people, including NIST's Frank Gayle, metals expert)



There's a lot more, but I'm heading out. I'll be back later this afternoon to continue... that is, if you really want to know what they've been trying to hide.