Schiff censured in the House of representatives, here's his remarks on the floor

[Pohemi]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/14ft5xe

Excellent commentary by him; he addresses the pointless partisanship that is leading to these actions and abuse of power (his censuring), and preventing any actual governing taking place. (vid is just over 6 min, and worth a listen)

McCarthy's House is only interested in political retribution, so far.

Note: I searched for a thread to put this in, it wasn't proper for the meme thread. If there's a better place for it, mods please nuke the tread and I can post it in another proper one.

 

[Thump553]

Truly an excellent speech.

 

[Pens1566]

The censure is pointless political theater.

 

[hal2kilo]

He's wearing it proudly as a badge of honor which he should be.

 

[UNCjigga]

Plenty of people still believe Schiff actually lied—but he never did*

(* in this case—I’m specifically referring to a lie spoken during official proceedings while under oath. He definitely lied to a reporter about whether Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman was known to the Intel Cmte, but that could just be him protecting the identity of the whistleblower.)

The main “lie” that incensed Trump was Schiff opening an impeachment hearing with a paraphrased version of the Trump-Zelenskyy call vs. the actual transcript. While problematic—he never lied. He started by saying “[this is] the essence of what the president communicates”. Note—even the official White House transcript is noted as “not a verbatim transcript”.

Basically, Schiff was actually mocking Trump and trying to portray him as a “wise guy” in the mob sense. It was kinda dumb given the gravity of the hearing—he could’ve just stuck with the transcript as that was bad enough.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Meh far too long and sounds like a politician not a normal person.
I rate it at 5 out of ten. I tapped out halfway thru.

 

[Moonbeam]

Meh far too long and sounds like a politician not a normal person.
I rate it at 5 out of ten. I tapped out halfway thru.

Good to see someone making important value judgments based only on the most vitally important issues. Like you I'm far too self important to listen to anything long or more insightful that an average person might point out and tax my brain. Short and stupid would be more my speed. I give you a ten.

 

[Pohemi]

Meh far too long and sounds like a politician not a normal person.
I rate it at 5 out of ten. I tapped out halfway thru.

Well...it was the US HoR that he was speaking to. He was mainly addressing the GOP members, but everybody in that chamber were politicians. And he was speaking about political actions and behavior. I wouldn't expect him to be sounding like plumber Joe.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Meh he had me for two minutes then lost me. Why Politicians don’t follow that two minute rule consistently is beyond my understanding
The Newsrom clip from the Fox interview is the perfect way to handle it. He was brief, he immediately got to a point with a punch back and spoke like a normal person.

 

[eelw]

Good to see someone making important value judgments based only on the most vitally important issues. Like you I'm far too self important to listen to anything long or more insightful that an average person might point out and tax my brain. Short and stupid would be more my speed. I give you a ten.

Lol this is how many of us feel on your long fortune cookie rants. Keep it clean and concise and stop with pot meet kettle declarations.

 

[Moonbeam]

Lol this is how many of us feel on your long fortune cookie rants. Keep it clean and concise and stop with pot meet kettle declarations.

Now you know why

Lol this is how many of us feel on your long fortune cookie rants. Keep it clean and concise and stop with pot meet kettle declarations.

I would have said only, "Now you know why you and others feel that way.", but you had to mention fortune cookies. A couple of nights ago I bought Chinese take out and just days before that I had been making my usual argument here in one of the treads that it is suppressed feelings of self hate that are destroying the human race, that they are the cause of all our problems including gun violence.. I got called a fucking liar for supposedly pretending that I have always made that claim which I always have but just then did so just so I could claim my idea of what mental illness was always expansive, but I ignored the comment because the claimant has proved to be rather a nasty idiot.

Well anyway after him, like you, accuse me of living in a comic book or fortune cookie world, I may have to concede some ground. It seems that my wisdom has penetrated into the repositories of knowledge where such cookie slogans are printed. The one that astonished me upon reading said: "If I bring forth what is inside of me, I will bring forth what will save me." Can you imagine that? Somebody somewhere let the cat out of the bag. Did you but suffer you would not suffer. Trust me. The world has let you down.

I try to speak the truth as I see it and a truth you do not know. I am totally uninterested in what your opinion is as to how I should communicate. I am only interested in doing my best to make sure the content is there for those who seek. You are perfectly free not to read what I have to say. I am saying things that nobody wants to hear. It would make not the slightest difference how I say what I saw within the limited awareness I have as to how best to say it. Long, short, pithy, rambling, slang, Oxford English, you name it, I will be held in contempt. I am like an unwelcome pest, a gadfly that irritates. I am speaking to the aggrieved and they are aggrieved about everything. What you need to do is realize that your complaints are completely expected and that you are not at fault for making them. It would be totally imbecilic for me to blame you for who you are. You could not have been otherwise. You were long ago criticized for what you now want to criticize in me. That's how you learned the tricks of that trade.Now, let's see, should I go on. I think I'm hungry enough to go get something to eat so this will have to do....................................................





























..........................for now,

 

[rommelrommel]

The censure is pointless political theater.

There’s a point, just like the impeachment has a point.

The GOP has radicalised their base by setting out any opposition to be radical leftism, communism, treason, etc.

The base believes there is treason and such going on yet they’ve noticed that even the freedumb caucus doesn’t really do anything about it.

So to keep the base on the hook they have to do dumber and dumber shit, see: pretending to be willing to default.

And yeah, there probably are a couple of freedumb caucus members that are sincerely retarded.

The point of all this is to keep the stupid part of the base on their side.

 

[sportage]

I believe Schiff is running for the senate, so why should he care? I wouldn't want to he a house member either. WTF... having to run for reelection every TWO years???? Who the hell does THAT? Who would want to do that? You'd spend all of your time running for reelection and raising money. No wonder those house maga have to be maggots just to want the job. Now serving as a senator? That lob would be worth fighting for. Any maggot can be a member of the house.

 

[Thump553]

Meh he had me for two minutes then lost me. Why Politicians don’t follow that two minute rule consistently is beyond my understanding
The Newsrom clip from the Fox interview is the perfect way to handle it. He was brief, he immediately got to a point with a punch back and spoke like a normal person.

Doubling down on your brag that you have the attention span of a goldfish? That's persuasive. A six minute speech is too long for you? Don't be silly. Without going into a Moonbeam type analysis, I think you got unsettled when the the intellectual arguments presented in the speech conflicted with your emotional beliefs and you bailed rather than think about it.

I'm sure you have listened to and enjoyed much longer rants from Der Trump.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Doubling down on your brag that you have the attention span of a goldfish? That's persuasive. A six minute speech is too long for you? Don't be silly. Without going into a Moonbeam type analysis, I think you got unsettled when the the intellectual arguments presented in the speech conflicted with your emotional beliefs and you bailed rather than think about it.

I'm sure you have listened to and enjoyed much longer rants from Der Trump.

Sure no problem, I’ll own that fact I have a very limited attention span in a way very similar to nearly the entire population. I stand by my point, it was too long, too verbose and exactly what people don’t listen me about political theater.
Keep it simple, simple things are easy to remember.

 

[Amused]

Sure no problem, I’ll own that fact I have a very limited attention span in a way very similar to nearly the entire population. I stand by my point, it was too long, too verbose and exactly what people don’t listen me about political theater.

I'm much the same. I rather have the transcript. I can read it in a fraction of the time. Maybe read the YouTube transcript of the speech?

Plus, reading avoids any personality cult influence. I avoid the spoken word for information as much as possible.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Sure no problem, I’ll own that fact I have a very limited attention span in a way very similar to nearly the entire population. I stand by my point, it was too long, too verbose and exactly what people don’t listen me about political theater.
Keep it simple, simple things are easy to remember.

I agree with you. He made his point in the first minute or so, after that he is just embellishing.
As a politician he needs to remember that he is never speaking just to the HoR. He is always speaking to the camera, and that is better with brevity. The more concise your words the more likely they will get published and heard. The longer you talk the more opportunities there is for the bad actors like Fox to take something out of context.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I agree with you. He made his point in the first minute or so, after that he is just embellishing.
As a politician he needs to remember that he is never speaking just to the HoR. He is always speaking to the camera, and that is better with brevity. The more concise your words the more likely they will get published and heard. The longer you talk the more opportunities there is for the bad actors like Fox to take something out of context.

Exactly.

 

[Jaskalas]

Was a good speech.

 

[hal2kilo]

I believe Schiff is running for the senate, so why should he care? I wouldn't want to he a house member either. WTF... having to run for reelection every TWO years???? Who the hell does THAT? Who would want to do that? You'd spend all of your time running for reelection and raising money. No wonder those house maga have to be maggots just to want the job. Now serving as a senator? That lob would be worth fighting for. Any maggot can be a member of the house.

You believe he's running for the Senate? I get at least 2 emails from him everyday.

 

[MrSquished]

Sure no problem, I’ll own that fact I have a very limited attention span in a way very similar to nearly the entire population. I stand by my point, it was too long, too verbose and exactly what people don’t listen me about political theater.
Keep it simple, simple things are easy to remember.

Agreed. This is a perfect encapsulation of many democrats problems. They don't have to be big assholes as epublicans are or anything close to just speak more plainly. They just need to learn how to speak more plainly while staying classy, unlike the Republicans, and to be less verbose, less intellectual, less flowery. You already have the votes of more educated people, let's just inspire more rather than sounding like stuffy professors.

 

[eelw]

lol next plan to expunge from the house record both orange monkey impeachments

 

[Pohemi]

Just more erasing inconvenient history that they'd rather not ever talk about. What's the big deal? lol

 

[hal2kilo]

Just more erasing inconvenient history that they'd rather not ever talk about. What's the big deal? lol

More inconvenient truths, that should never be taught in our history books. /s

 

[Muse]

Meh he had me for two minutes then lost me. Why Politicians don’t follow that two minute rule consistently is beyond my understanding
The Newsrom clip from the Fox interview is the perfect way to handle it. He was brief, he immediately got to a point with a punch back and spoke like a normal person.

Doh! Have you ever heard of a filibuster?

Newsom is very different from your garden variety politician. He seems to be in a class by himself in being able to talk off the cuff about political matters.