Scanners with scan areas larger than 8x11

L337Llama

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I do a lot of manga drawing, want to try to go digital with it. The paper id like to use is about 10x14, and most scanners cannot scan an area that large. Are there any scanners that can scan an area that big? Also, how much would a scanner that can do this cost? The maximum for my budget is probably 150.
 

ObiDon

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The largest scan area I've seen in a while is 8.5" x 14" and even those start out in the several-hundred dollar range. :(
 

Bleep

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Well just scan it in a part at a time and then using your photo editing software stitch them together.
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L337Llama

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Would it be noticeable if they were stitched together or would it look like a single clean image?
 

gsaldivar

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It depends on the skill of the "stitcher", but it isn't difficult at all to learn.

Try to get a scanner with a removable lid, then position your art and scan it in segments. Twain plug-ins for Photoshop usually let you do multiple scans from a single interface, then when you are done you each scan appears within Photoshop in a separate window.

Simply create a blank document large enough to contain both scans side-by-side, then drag-and-drop each of the two separate scans into the larger window you created.

Everything else is just getting the layers aligned, and touching up any color differences.

With a little practice, this usually takes just a minute or two. Save a few hundred bucks and stick with a cheap 8.5x11 scanner. If you are going "digital" you'll need to learn Photoshop sooner or later. Just think of it as practice.


Good luck!
 

bob332

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there is no way you will get a new scanner that will scan that size, maybe try ebay?
 

billandopus

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I have absolutely no experience with "stitching" but i've heard from friends that it can be very effective. That may be a more realistic option than a physically large scanner. The other option is to maybe bring your scanning needs to a professional outfit/business and get them to do it for you. Does Staples offer something like this?
 

L337Llama

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Ill try the stitching. Since im mostly going to be scaning inked black and white pictures, the scanner quality isnt too critical. The biggest reason for trying to do some digital with this is using comic tones. They are a pain to use on actual paper and can be very costly. Ill also try to color them with paintshop or photoshop.

With the money id save with getting the cheap 8x11, I can put it towards a stylus. Thanks a lot for the suggestions and help.
 

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You might add some registration targets to the pictures in the border area if there are no distinct features to line up. This is the way they do it when registering four color art in printing.
 

hungrygoose

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wow.....most of these posts have been way off base....if you're serious about getting a scanner that does larger paper than 8.5x11, take a look at what ricoh has to offer.....they have scanners that do up to 11x17 as well as have an auto document feeder.......these are high end scanners and you will pay for the features, but if you really need the technology, it is out there.....i work for lanier which is owned by ricoh...take a look at our site......also, you could look into a high end copier that has a scan module installed....that would give you major multifunction capabilities.....like i said.....the technology IS out there, you just have to look beyond office depot and circuit city to find it......also, a message to previous posters......no offense, but most of the advice you guys gave in these posts was completely inaccurate.....i guess this goes to show that you should be wary of advice b/c sometimes ppl. will reply about a topic and give advice on something they really know very little about

www.lanier.com
www.ricoh.com
 

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Originally posted by: hungrygoose
wow.....most of these posts have been way off base....if you're serious about getting a scanner that does larger paper than 8.5x11, take a look at what ricoh has to offer.....they have scanners that do up to 11x17 as well as have an auto document feeder.......these are high end scanners and you will pay for the features, but if you really need the technology, it is out there.....i work for lanier which is owned by ricoh...take a look at our site......also, you could look into a high end copier that has a scan module installed....that would give you major multifunction capabilities.....like i said.....the technology IS out there, you just have to look beyond office depot and circuit city to find it......also, a message to previous posters......no offense, but most of the advice you guys gave in these posts was completely inaccurate.....i guess this goes to show that you should be wary of advice b/c sometimes ppl. will reply about a topic and give advice on something they really know very little about

www.lanier.com
www.ricoh.com

Wow, calm the fvck down. I believe one or two people mentioned that these scanners were "hard to come by." The rest just gave tips on saving money by stitching the two images together.
 

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most of these posts have been way off base

Thee do not know what thee sp;eak of. Promoting your product is fine but insulting remarks are not called for.
I have stitched many things together and it is easy to learn and very effective I just have a cheap scanner I thnk I payed 50 bucks for it, plenty good for most anything but a little slow. Register marks on the origonal help but not necessary.

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Any of Hp's Higher end all in one printer / scanner / copiers have Legal size flatbed scaners, if you can still get ahold of one the G55 would work, I've used it to scan legal docs not sure on their current models though. Hope this helps...
 

gsaldivar

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Originally posted by: hungrygoose
wow.....most of these posts have been way off base....if you're serious about getting a scanner that does larger paper than 8.5x11, take a look at what ricoh has to offer.....they have scanners that do up to 11x17 as well as have an auto document feeder.......these are high end scanners and you will pay for the features, but if you really need the technology, it is out there.....i work for lanier which is owned by ricoh...take a look at our site......also, you could look into a high end copier that has a scan module installed....that would give you major multifunction capabilities.....like i said.....the technology IS out there, you just have to look beyond office depot and circuit city to find it......also, a message to previous posters......no offense, but most of the advice you guys gave in these posts was completely inaccurate.....i guess this goes to show that you should be wary of advice b/c sometimes ppl. will reply about a topic and give advice on something they really know very little about

www.lanier.com
www.ricoh.com



Dude...

This guy's budget is only $150.00!

I'm sure that you know alot about high-end equipment, but try to put yourself in this guy's shoes for a minute:

Is there a single product sold by Ricoh/Lanier that will meet L337Llama's needs, priced under $150??


 

L337Llama

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Im definately leaning towards the cheap scanner and maybe a tablet over the stuff the guy is trying to sell. Also, thanks for the advice on doing the target spots, that should help out alot with stitching the picture together, and itd be easy to remove with the just about any software.
 

billandopus

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Originally posted by: hungrygoose
wow.....most of these posts have been way off base....if you're serious about getting a scanner that does larger paper than 8.5x11, take a look at what ricoh has to offer.....they have scanners that do up to 11x17 as well as have an auto document feeder.......these are high end scanners and you will pay for the features, but if you really need the technology, it is out there.....i work for lanier which is owned by ricoh...take a look at our site......also, you could look into a high end copier that has a scan module installed....that would give you major multifunction capabilities.....like i said.....the technology IS out there, you just have to look beyond office depot and circuit city to find it......also, a message to previous posters......no offense, but most of the advice you guys gave in these posts was completely inaccurate.....i guess this goes to show that you should be wary of advice b/c sometimes ppl. will reply about a topic and give advice on something they really know very little about

www.lanier.com
www.ricoh.com


Way off base?! Who's way off base here?

Did you not read the original post stating that 150 bucks is about ballpark ceiling to spend for such a task?

Reading Comprehension - you did learn to do such a thing back in elementary school did you not?

Then you have the nerve to start inherently insulting those who offer appropriate suggestions/advice based on what the original poster was asking for. Unfortunately, your lack of reading comprehension and personal need to stroke your own ego left you the desire to offer inappropriate meandering advice while provoking the ire of others needlessly.

I'm sure that Lanier/Ricoh offers really nice high end scanners for use. Noticed that you mentioned high end?

Does high end insinuate 150 bucks?

Man alive.

For your sake and for everyone else please - read, comprehend, reply. Do not skip step 2.

We will all get along much better that way.


 

hungrygoose

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ok....first of all, to explain some of what i said......i am NOT a salesman workin for lanier/ricoh.......i am a serviceman....so frankly, i couldn't care less whether or not you buy something from us.....secondly, in my experience, alot of times people start out with a budget that they don't want to spend over b/c they don't know what there is out there.....for his initial purpose, $150 may be all he wants to spend, but after lookin more closely at the technology that is out there, he may see that some of these features are worth the extra $$$$.....therefore, it never hurts to mention the bigger and better that is out there.....if you only show someone or look at the products that are in your "budget", you may never grow beyond that.....also, from a sales standpoint, if you only show a customer what they claim to be within their "budget", then more than likely, you won't have a sales job for long....you start selling high, then work the customer down to something that they are comfortable with financially.....that's just basic sales guys......i apologize if i insulted anyone as that was not my intentions.....but i do still believe that on forums such as these, there is alot of empty replies that are less than knowledgable about the topic

e.g.
Originally posted by: bob332
there is no way you will get a new scanner that will scan that size, maybe try ebay?

anyways.....l337llama......u play countersrike?.....your name sounds familiar.....hope my information was helpful in some way
 

L337Llama

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I use to play CS, but havent in a while.

Anyway, since im getting this scanner almost exclusively to scan black and white inked drawings, the most high end scanner is not what I need. Im not very concerned with color pictures, since i'd rather color them digitally and make it look cleaner.

For the most part, a 600 dpi scanner is enough for this, and from what i can gather, just about any new scanner will run higher. Stitching the pictures should be simple enough.

Since I'm getting a basic scanner, Im going to try to wait for something to come on the hot deals forum. I saw a scanner id like to check out at Office depot (an Epson for under 30$).

THanks alot for all the suggestions, Im almost postive of what im going to do. Also, since Im going to try to put the money im not using towards a Tablet (NewEgg is selling a pretty good under for 85$ shipped) That will definately help with working with the pictures on the pc.

Thanks again, my question has been answered.
 

billandopus

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Originally posted by: hungrygoose
ok....first of all, to explain some of what i said......i am NOT a salesman workin for lanier/ricoh.......i am a serviceman....so frankly, i couldn't care less whether or not you buy something from us.....secondly, in my experience, alot of times people start out with a budget that they don't want to spend over b/c they don't know what there is out there.....for his initial purpose, $150 may be all he wants to spend, but after lookin more closely at the technology that is out there, he may see that some of these features are worth the extra $$$$.....therefore, it never hurts to mention the bigger and better that is out there.....if you only show someone or look at the products that are in your "budget", you may never grow beyond that.....also, from a sales standpoint, if you only show a customer what they claim to be within their "budget", then more than likely, you won't have a sales job for long....you start selling high, then work the customer down to something that they are comfortable with financially.....that's just basic sales guys......i apologize if i insulted anyone as that was not my intentions.....but i do still believe that on forums such as these, there is alot of empty replies that are less than knowledgable about the topic

e.g.
Originally posted by: bob332
there is no way you will get a new scanner that will scan that size, maybe try ebay?

anyways.....l337llama......u play countersrike?.....your name sounds familiar.....hope my information was helpful in some way


I'm glad you cleared the air with your intentions. The apology is very cool of you.

You're knowledge and experience is appreciated by all means- just like anyone else - if you have something good to bring to the table. Maybe you could have just led off with something like "I work in the industry and if you can go beyond your budget of 150 you can maybe consider these options which will offer superior results based on your requirements and needs ....." is all that i'm saying.

Regards.
 

hungrygoose

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Originally posted by: bill_n_opus
Originally posted by: hungrygoose
ok....first of all, to explain some of what i said......i am NOT a salesman workin for lanier/ricoh.......i am a serviceman....so frankly, i couldn't care less whether or not you buy something from us.....secondly, in my experience, alot of times people start out with a budget that they don't want to spend over b/c they don't know what there is out there.....for his initial purpose, $150 may be all he wants to spend, but after lookin more closely at the technology that is out there, he may see that some of these features are worth the extra $$$$.....therefore, it never hurts to mention the bigger and better that is out there.....if you only show someone or look at the products that are in your "budget", you may never grow beyond that.....also, from a sales standpoint, if you only show a customer what they claim to be within their "budget", then more than likely, you won't have a sales job for long....you start selling high, then work the customer down to something that they are comfortable with financially.....that's just basic sales guys......i apologize if i insulted anyone as that was not my intentions.....but i do still believe that on forums such as these, there is alot of empty replies that are less than knowledgable about the topic

e.g.
Originally posted by: bob332
there is no way you will get a new scanner that will scan that size, maybe try ebay?

anyways.....l337llama......u play countersrike?.....your name sounds familiar.....hope my information was helpful in some way


I'm glad you cleared the air with your intentions. The apology is very cool of you.

You're knowledge and experience is appreciated by all means- just like anyone else - if you have something good to bring to the table. Maybe you could have just led off with something like "I work in the industry and if you can go beyond your budget of 150 you can maybe consider these options which will offer superior results based on your requirements and needs ....." is all that i'm saying.

Regards.





well said and point well taken.....thnx
 

ObiDon

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Originally posted by: hungrygoose
...but i do still believe that on forums such as these, there is alot of empty replies that are less than knowledgable about the topic

e.g.
Originally posted by: bob332
there is no way you will get a new scanner that will scan that size, maybe try ebay?
Hmmm...when I read bob332's statement, I interpreted it as "there is no way you will get a new scanner that will scan that size [for $150 or less]."

Otherwise, he just sent L337Llama to ebay to look for a non-existant product. ;)
 

Carp1812

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I'll add one more vote to the stitching method. I work for a city engineering department that relies pretty heavily on old hand-drawn records. We purchased an 11x17 scanner to help us get everything backed up digitally. The scanner is quite nice- Epson brand, SCSI interface, ADF, etc. However, it costs upwards of $1000. For what you want, a cheapy 8.5x11 is great.