SC upholds UT Affirmative Action.

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It's rather unbelievable that someone like yourself just happened to come up with an ideology which completely matches american conservatism.

American conservatism is for segregation? Is that the fantasy strawman universe you live in? The Black family was better off and stronger before you liberal people started making sticking together not necessary as uncle Sam would step in and help out. I am against segregation and your keeping bringing it up is offensive and dishonest.

This very thread is conservatives complaining about liberals sending more black kids to college.

That is completely dishonest.

The conservative-backed police crackdown is far worse now than under segregation. Take a moment to let that sink in.

Prove it.

Trivial prison stats bear this out; there simply can't be such a staggering prison population (larger than literal police-states) without great concerted effort.

Or the lack of their fathers in their lives lead to more crimes being committed? Is the breakdown of the black family caused by police "crackdowns" too?

Whereas segregated black people knew their place, apparently afterward they had to be shown their place.

My proposal is much simpler and doesn't require half the country to be out to get black people. My proposal is people actually trying to help but completely screwing it up. Yours? All police offices actively gin up charges on black kids to put them back in their place. Absurd.

Many now parrot the belief that crippling racism not long ago miraculously ended with federally mandated desegregation (there was no way it was going to pass a vote even with the large black vote).

Many now are complete morons and actually believe that their complete straw mans are actually true.

It's the idea which magically shields them from racism. That's how they can support the same policies (eg. "state rights" was the right of a state to segregation) without being racist.

Liberal policies are hurting poor black families, own it.

 

[buckshot24]

Are you capitulating (playing too much Hearts of Iron 4 haha) that you don't have evidence.

 

[agent00f]

American conservatism is for segregation? Is that the fantasy strawman universe you live in? The Black family was better off and stronger before you liberal people started making sticking together not necessary as uncle Sam would step in and help out. I am against segregation and your keeping bringing it up is offensive and dishonest.
That is completely dishonest.
Prove it.
Or the lack of their fathers in their lives lead to more crimes being committed? Is the breakdown of the black family caused by police "crackdowns" too?
My proposal is much simpler and doesn't require half the country to be out to get black people. My proposal is people actually trying to help but completely screwing it up. Yours? All police offices actively gin up charges on black kids to put them back in their place. Absurd.
Many now are complete morons and actually believe that their complete straw mans are actually true. Liberal policies are hurting poor black families, own it.

To be frank no one here harbors any illusions that you do more than low effort shitposting. People who think & write at a post-secondary level just aren't interested in chatting with people whose posts won't pass primary school standards. That's a fact of life I think many are too polite to point out directly, but it's why you don't see many college grads hanging out with the trailer park boys.

These posts of yours only perpetuate the stereotype of modern conservatives as the lowest common denominator in american politics. FWIW that doesn't do the movement any favors.

 

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To be frank no one here harbors any illusions that you do more than low effort shitposting. People who think & write at a post-secondary level just aren't interested in chatting with people whose posts won't pass primary school standards. That's a fact of life I think many are too polite to point out directly, but it's why you don't see many college grads hanging out with the trailer park boys.

These posts of yours only perpetuate the stereotype of modern conservatives as the lowest common denominator in american politics. FWIW that doesn't do the movement any favors.

Why has the black family disintegrated over the last 50 years? Is your theory it is from "right wing" police policies? Your ad hominem is irrelevant. What is your explanation?

 

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Why has the black family disintegrated over the last 50 years? Is your theory it is from "right wing" police policies? Your ad hominem is irrelevant. What is your explanation?

The reason why people don't think a conversation with you is meaningful is relevant in a conversation with you. It's like talking with a recalcitrant child.

A significant portion of male pop incarcerated and subsequently unemployable, plus the other racist policies mentioned all contribute to negative outlook on family stability.

But also much of the out-of-wedlock type hoopla fundamentally misunderstand the problem anyway, which isn't surprising: http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/ar...ut-of-wedlock-births-in-black-america/277084/

 

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The reason why people don't think a conversation with you is meaningful is relevant in a conversation with you. It's like talking with a recalcitrant child.

Is that why the black family has been decimated? You are welcomed to stop responding whenever you want.

A significant portion of male pop incarcerated and subsequently unemployable, plus the other racist policies mentioned all contribute to negative outlook on family stability.

This is like saying losing weight is why cancer patients die. It is the cancer that made them lose the weight.

But also much of the out-of-wedlock type hoopla fundamentally misunderstand the problem anyway, which isn't surprising: http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/ar...ut-of-wedlock-births-in-black-america/277084/

Sigh. This has nothing to do with the amount of black kids who don't grow up with their fathers. The birth rates are completely irrelevant.

 

[agent00f]

Is that why the black family has been decimated? You are welcomed to stop responding whenever you want.
This is like saying losing weight is why cancer patients die. It is the cancer that made them lose the weight.

Sigh. This has nothing to do with the amount of black kids who don't grow up with their fathers. The birth rates are completely irrelevant.

The answer was being explained, but regrettably it appears anything longer than a sentence you define as irrelevant.

I'm sure you've met folks who are pretty herp-derp. Now imagine they keep talking to you, but it just doesn't make for good conversation because there's no way to communicate at a shared level of interest. They might want to talk about how they like their favorite food, don't like your favorite food, and that's about the extent of it. Well, you similarly talk about every topic like it's a matter of taste. In fact you ask exactly that question of favorite food to people who try to explain why their conversations with you are terrible. They don't mean your favorite food is bad, they mean substantive people aren't interested in just talking about favorite foods.

 

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The answer was being explained, but regrettably it appears anything longer than a sentence you define as irrelevant.

I'm sure you've met folks who are pretty herp-derp. Now imagine they keep talking to you, but it just doesn't make for good conversation because there's no way to communicate at a shared level of interest. They might want to talk about how they like their favorite food, don't like your favorite food, and that's about the extent of it. Well, you similarly talk about every topic like it's a matter of taste. In fact you ask exactly that question of favorite food to people who try to explain why their conversations with you are terrible. They don't mean your favorite food is bad, they mean substantive people aren't interested in just talking about favorite foods.

You are welcome to shut your hole at any moment. Black families are being decimated which you don't seem to care about. You care more about me, which isn't flattering.

 

[agent00f]

You are welcome to shut your hole at any moment. Black families are being decimated which you don't seem to care about. You care more about me, which isn't flattering.

I'll try to do this in one sentence: people stop trying to explain things to you if/when they find out it won't fit in your head, this isn't their fault.

 

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I'll try to do this in one sentence: people stop trying to explain things to you if/when they find out it won't fit in your head, this isn't their fault.

I can understand your points just fine, that is how I know they are crap.

 

[agent00f]

I can understand your points just fine, that is how I know they are crap.

Well, if someone's entire world is about favorite food type opinions, I'm sure they believe they understand that world very well and that everything else is a bunch of crap.

 

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Well, if someone's entire world is about favorite food type opinions, I'm sure they believe they understand that world very well and that everything else is a bunch of crap.

What a fine addition to the forum! Goodbye.

 

[agent00f]

You have to realize that posts in a public forum aren't just intended for the the person quoted, like the following story.

I had a moment long ago that taught much about life. I was reading a science mag and a construction worker asked me what I got out of it, if I "remember them like a book full of facts". I didn't know what to say at the time, and thought about the problem long and hard since it bothered me that such a simple question doesn't have a suitable answer. I could introspect on the path that one takes to start with observation to form cohesive models of reality, plus the process of getting better at this not only through human history but one's own ability, but really there's no reasonable way to summarize this to an adult who thinks of science as a collection of facts.

Similarly, people who might read about sociology would look at the demographic data here, and reasonably understand that the portion of black communities which benefit from AA & such are succeeding resulting in lower birth rates, and the portion under increasing lockdown are spiraling downwards. But similarly, there's no way to explain this to someone who literally thinks of everything at the level of favorite desert opinions.