SBC Communications claims they own Patent on Internal links and Includes

Adul

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http://www.museumtour.com/sbclawsuit.html

SBC Communications claims they own Patent on Internal links and Includes, threatens to sue the little guys first, then move to the big guys.

We received a 40 page package from SBC Intellectual Property today informing us that our web site ? which has links on the left side that go to other web pages within the site ? but does not lose the left side navigation links ? was in violation of their ?Structured Document Browser? Patent.

Here is the letter that was sent to us.

January 14th, 2003

Dear President of MuseumTour.com

SBC Intellectual Property is the owner of US Patent no. 5,933,841 entitled ?Stuctured Document Browser?. The purpose of this letter is to advise you of an opportunity to acquire a license to the patents ? view patent link at the bottom of this pag.:

- We recently observed several useful navigation features within the user interface or your site www.museumtour.com. For example your site includes several selectors or tabs that correspond to specific locations within your site documents. These selectors seem to reside in their own frame or part of the user interface. And, as such, the selectors are not lost when a different part of the document is displayed to the user - see screen shots from museumtour.com enclosed. By sperating the selectors from the content, Museumetour has truly simplified site navigation and improved the shopping experience for its users.

As you review the Structured Document Patent you will notice that the above-discussed features appear to infringe several issued claims in our patent. In light of Museum Tours presumed respect for the intellectual property rights of others, we are pleased to offer you a Preferred Rate license under the structured Document Patent - see enclosed rate schedule -

Actual licensing amounts are calculated using SBC's then current Royalty equation. SBC will gladly determine your actual licensing amount if you provide us with your 2002 Company Gross Revnue (their fees are based on how much annual revenue the company does).

For your convenience and to assist your analysis of the patent, I have enclosed a document that charts the claim language of an example claim to your site structure.

After reviewing the patents and determining wheather you prefer a prepaid license or a recurring annual licence please contact Ms. Jill Walker at 512.231.7008 to determin your actual royalty amount. If you have your 2002 gross revenue number Ms. Walker will provide you with an accurate oyalty number and will facilityate the execution of an appropriate license.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Sincerly,



Harlie D. Frost

President
 

zephyrprime

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Here's a direct link to the patent at the patent office link
Should be easy to provide prior art on this one.
 

bigredguy

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'I invented the internet so you all owe me money. Pay up or elect me."

That has got to be the dumbest thing I have ever seen
 

notfred

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That's such bullsh!t. They're trying to scare poeple who they KNOW can't afford to compete in court w/ them into buying a license to a BS patent. Then, after they win a few cases like that, they'll take it to big corporations and use the earlier cases as precedent.

Fvcking sh!tholes.

If I subscribed to any of SBC's services, I'd cancel my subscriptions.
 

Carrot44

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what per say is an oyalty?

A president of a Company would not miss spell so many words and his grammar sucks!


Either that or he needs a new typest.

LoL

Ken

I don't se any mis speeled works do you?
 

Colt45

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Originally posted by: Carrot39
what per say is an oyalty?

A president of a Company would not miss spell so many words and his grammer sucks!


Either that or he needs a new typest.

LoL

Ken

hahah
 

arcas

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I just verified that the US Patent #5,933,841 "Structured Document Browser" patent is real. They filed for the patent in 1996. Seems there is a tremendous amount of prior art:

- File browsers. Consider Windows explorer, hell let's go back to DOS file browsers back in the 1980s.
- How long has Adobe Acrobat Reader supported indexes? (I honestly don't know but at first glance it would seem to infringe too)
- How about integrated development environments where your "index" was a list of your source files and the other window was the source code corresponding to the selected file? Visual C has had this kind of interface since at least the early 90's. I'm sure you could find EMACS programs to do this dating back to the 1970s!

SBC might be able to coax some websites to pony up the licensing fees but if it comes to court, I suspect SBC will have about as much luck with this patent as BT had with their "hyperlink" patent.

 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: arcas
I just verified that the US Patent #5,933,841 "Structured Document Browser" patent is real. They filed for the patent in 1996. Seems there is a tremendous amount of prior art:

- File browsers. Consider Windows explorer, hell let's go back to DOS file browsers back in the 1980s.
- How long has Adobe Acrobat Reader supported indexes? (I honestly don't know but at first glance it would seem to infringe too)
- How about integrated development environments where your "index" was a list of your source files and the other window was the source code corresponding to the selected file? Visual C has had this kind of interface since at least the early 90's. I'm sure you could find EMACS programs to do this dating back to the 1970s!

SBC might be able to coax some websites to pony up the licensing fees but if it comes to court, I suspect SBC will have about as much luck with this patent as BT had with their "hyperlink" patent.

I recently pointed out in another thread about this latest round of Patents issued by the Patent Office as insane. They just issued a Patent to a couple of guys here in Georgia for a "Tower Cabinet that blows forced air with a pluriaty of holes to cool equipment giving off heat". They just issued a Patent for the everday PC Mini Tower Case!
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. There is way too many people in positions making decisions they have no business making. :| :frown: