Say what you want about Israel, but it looks like their offensive has put a stop to the suicide bombers

[swayinOtis]

I guess it's hard to sneak into Israel to blow people up when your towns are occupied by the Israel Army.

Bush needs to take notice. He's really disappointed me lately. He isn't very consistent. He says Israel has a right to defend itself against terror, then he tells them to withdraw and start the peace process yet again. Did we, or do we, do the same with the Taliban or Al-Qaeda? What about Saddam Hussein? We're not going to start talking to him, we're going to bomb the crap out of him. That's what this is really all about. Bush wants to appease those stinking Arabs so he can have them in his corner when we go after Saddam.

Whatever happened to "you're either with us or against us"? I think he should unconditionally support Israel who has been and is still with us in the fight against terror and stop playing both sides of the fence.

 

[Miramonti]

Yes they've stopped, but only because their more committed to peace right now than Israel.

Bush wants to appease those stinking Arabs so he can have them in his corner when we go after Saddam.

What kind of racist bs are you full of? :|

Nevermind I don't want to know.

 

[swayinOtis]

<< Yes they've stopped, but only because their more committed to peace right now than Israel. >>



I don't know what's funnier, that stupid statement, or your misuse of the word their.



<< Bush wants to appease those stinking Arabs so he can have them in his corner when we go after Saddam.

What kind of racist bs are you full of? :| >>



You seem really naive.

 

[NeoV]

I agree that Bush's stance on this seems odd given the fact that we still have forces in Afghanistan, yet he wants Israel to withdraw their forces from towns within miles of their own cities that have been under a brutal assault via suicide bombers. The whole Israel-Palestine thing has many sides to it, but the bottom line is it seems very hypocritical of us to tell them how to act in these times.

The whole thing is a huge mess, and the suicide bombings aren't going to magically go away if Israel pulls their troops out.


What happens when we attack targets in Iraq despite the sure-to-come outcries from other countries?

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

<< Yes they've stopped, but only because their more committed to peace right now than Israel. >>



In the 2+ years I have been at these forums, that is the most assinine thing I've ever seen posted. **CONFIRMED**

 

[swayinOtis]

<< What happens when we attack targets in Iraq despite the sure-to-come outcries from other countries? >>



i'm sure they will raise oil prices which might make wall street panic.

it will probably inspire some islamic zealot nutcase in this country to act alone. that has happened before.

 

[Miramonti]

<< You seem really naive. >>



Yeah maybe, but not a racist scum, and certainly not as naive as someone who justifies the foolish militant aggression right now because he thinks it prevents suicide bombers from bombing israel. Now thats funny. There's a huge muslim population in Israel and many bombers have come from within their borders.

 

[b0mbrman]

<< Yes they've stopped, but only because their more committed to peace right now than Israel. >>


Puahahahahahaha

Ha.

So with that logic, last week, Israelis were more committed to peace than Palestinians?

 

[b0mbrman]

On second thought, that's sig material!

 

[Czar]

and the world has these people

 

[Mill]

I don't think he was trying to be racist. He said stinking Arabs because he disagrees with their policies, not because he thinks they stink. C'mon.

 

[Novgrod]

For what it's worth:

At no time in the past has a military response stopped a suicide bombing campaign. I'm really lazy, so I'm not going to dig up the numbers.

That said, there hasn't been a military response of this enormity before, so perhaps this one is working. I wouldn't be surprised if Israel were to suffer more attacks after their own incursion ended.

As for Bush's role, my take on it is: he began by not wanting to take sides in a conflict where his participation would not be able to solve anything (Clinton tried; look where he ended up). Now he's trying to stop the conflict because there's real outcry about the whole thing.

I don't know enough to say which is better.

 

[Random Variable]

What if the suicide bombings resume and they are relentless? What are we going to tell Israel?

 

[Czar]

<< What if the suicide bombings resume and they are relentless? What are we going to tell Israel? >>


what we have said before, using more force will only bring more hate towards israel from the arab countries

http://observer.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,680098,00.html
very good article about this and hate

 

[Miramonti]

The only problem with the suicide bombings stopping is that it gives Sharon a false sense that his militancy is having a positive affect, but that doesn't make sense because he's the reason this all started up 18 months ago.

 

[Random Variable]

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<< What if the suicide bombings resume and they are relentless? What are we going to tell Israel? >>


what we have said before, using more force will only bring more hate towards israel from the arab countries

http://observer.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,680098,00.html
very good article about this and hate >>


Not The Observer! NO!!! :Q

But seriously, are we going to tell them that they have to let their civilians die because that's the right thing to do?

 

[Czar]

<< Not The Observer! NO!!! :Q

But seriously, are we going to tell than they have to let their civilians die because that's the right thing to do? >>


I know its the observer but its a very good article with alot of good points.

We will just have to tell them again, like some many times that more violence does not work. We cant tell them what works but we can tell them what doesnt work.

 

[db]

If the bombers continue, Sharon has more of a public relations reason to continue the hunt. If the bombers stop, Sharon can say he was successful and that justifies the hunt and proves they should have done it.


[Bush putting foot down]: "When I say now, I mean NOW!" Ha, Sharon never intended to stop until Powell gets there.

 

[Random Variable]

<< I know its the observer but its a very good article with alot of good points.

We will just have to tell them again, like some many times that more violence does not work. We cant tell them what works but we can tell them what doesnt work. >>


So they should be told to not respond to any bombing?

 

[Russ]

<< Sharon a false sense that his militancy is having a positive affect, but that doesn't make sense because he's the reason this all started up 18 months ago. >>



Hello? The light's on, but nobody's home. This all started a hell of a lot longer then 18 months ago.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Czar]

<<

<< I know its the observer but its a very good article with alot of good points.

We will just have to tell them again, like some many times that more violence does not work. We cant tell them what works but we can tell them what doesnt work. >>


So they should be told to not respond to any bombing? >>


No, only that more violence will only lead to more violence

 

[Random Variable]

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<<

<< I know its the observer but its a very good article with alot of good points.

We will just have to tell them again, like some many times that more violence does not work. We cant tell them what works but we can tell them what doesnt work. >>


So they should be told to not respond to any bombing? >>


No, only that more violence will only lead to more violence >>


All I want to know is how they should respond if 25 people are once again blown to bits while eating dinner or riding on a bus.

 

[Czar]

<< All I want to know is how they should respond if 25 people are once again blown to bits while eating dinner or riding on a bus. >>


Do you think that killing palestinians works?

 

[Random Variable]

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<< All I want to know is how they should respond if 25 people are once again blown to bits while eating dinner or riding on a bus. >>


Do you think that killing palestinians works? >>


Czar, just answer my question, please.

 

[Czar]

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<<

<< All I want to know is how they should respond if 25 people are once again blown to bits while eating dinner or riding on a bus. >>


Do you think that killing palestinians works? >>


Czar, just answer my question, please. >>


Ok, what I think is that the Israeli's should work with the palestinians of dismantling hamas and other terrorist groups, also remove all israeli settlers away from palestinian land. More reason to hate will do nothing but damage any hope for peace in the region.

Now answer mine.