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Saw a 2000+ *Barton* core the other day

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imported_Phil

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This is a bit weird but I thought I'd share.

Pulling an Athlon 2000+ PIB off the shelf yesterday to install it in a customer's machine, I noticed that the core seemed to be a lot larger than I remembered. Having a glance at a 3000+ and 3200+ on the same shelf made me realise that the alleged 2000+ must have been a 2500+ Barton that failed to meet the specs for 2500+ operation, and therefore been knocked down and down and down until stable.

I wouldn't want to be the guy buying that processor, lol 🙂

Weird, no?

Dopefiend
 
Or it could have been the old Palamino core, which if i remember from pictures, is about the same physical size as the Barton cores


Confused
 
Umm, you should have kept it. Maybe it was mistakingly set as a 2000 or perhaps in desperation to fill orders for 2000s they shipped a Barton instead. At the very least it might be an extremely rare occurence that could be worth something to some collector. Or, maybe we are on the cusp of the future where all SocketA Athlons will be Bartons. At any rate, the guy didn't get ripped.

Edit: Confused makes a good point that seems likely to be the most likely event. In which case "your" shop must have some old stock.
 
why wouldn't you? if it runs at the rated speed at the rated voltage i don't see what the problem is

heck the 9500 was just 9700 cores that weren't validated and no one had a problem buying those.
 
Originally posted by: Confused
Or it could have been the old Palamino core, which if i remember from pictures, is about the same physical size as the Barton cores


Confused
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This must be the case. You should have taken note of the steppings on the core, as that would have made it a definite. However, I'm quite sure it was a Palomino.
 
Originally posted by: Confused
Or it could have been the old Palamino core, which if i remember from pictures, is about the same physical size as the Barton cores


Confused
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It is easily sorted out. If it is an older Palomino core, it will have all the stepping and model info stamped on the core itself. If it's a Barton, the lettering and numbers would be on a label on the CPU's packaging (substrate).

🙂
 
The easiest way to tell is whether the chip's info is stamped on the core itself or on the packaging (on a little black sticker)
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Umm, you should have kept it. Maybe it was mistakingly set as a 2000 or perhaps in desperation to fill orders for 2000s they shipped a Barton instead. At the very least it might be an extremely rare occurence that could be worth something to some collector. Or, maybe we are on the cusp of the future where all SocketA Athlons will be Bartons. At any rate, the guy didn't get ripped.

Edit: Confused makes a good point that seems likely to be the most likely event. In which case "your" shop must have some old stock.
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A collector? Very unlikely.
 
Originally posted by: mechBgon
A Tbred with a 333MHz bus is still a Tbred, what AMD calls "Model 8."
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Note that Model 8 is a Tbred period; FSB speed doesn't matter.
 
Yep. And for the curious, look at Asus's CPU-support info here. Query by CPU, select SocketA, and go down the list to the 2000+. Note how there are three versions of the AthlonXP 2000+ listed: Models 6, 8, and 10.

 :light:
:Q ~ hmmm

Model 6 is Palomino. Model 8 is Thoroughbred. Model 10... yeah. 😉
 
Originally posted by: zsouthboy
The easiest way to tell is whether the chip's info is stamped on the core itself or on the packaging (on a little black sticker)
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I've heard that advice somewhere before...😉

(look up) 😛


 
Originally posted by: mechBgon
Yep. And for the curious, look at Asus's CPU-support info here. Query by CPU, select SocketA, and go down the list to the 2000+. Note how there are three versions of the AthlonXP 2000+ listed: Models 6, 8, and 10.

 :light:
:Q ~ hmmm

Model 6 is Palomino. Model 8 is Thoroughbred. Model 10... yeah. 😉
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Nice find mechBgon! 🙂 My guess is there are some lower speed barton's filtering into the channel. AMD probably decided they could try to sell some of the barton's that won't meet their stability guidelines for their lowest speed Barton, the 2500+, instead of just dumping them.

🙂

Edit:

Another possibility could be that they are moving the whole XP line to the barton core as the yields improve, and slowly phasing out the normal Tbred's. Who knows..🙂
 
Originally posted by: jjyiz28
Originally posted by: mechBgon
Sounds like the Thornton core has made it to market.
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isn't the thorton just a tbred with 333fsb? if so, shouldn't it be the same size?
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nah, a thorton is a barton with half the cache disabled, it can be on 266 or 333FSB
 
Originally posted by: mechBgon
Yep. And for the curious, look at Asus's CPU-support info here. Query by CPU, select SocketA, and go down the list to the 2000+. Note how there are three versions of the AthlonXP 2000+ listed: Models 6, 8, and 10.

 :light:
:Q ~ hmmm

Model 6 is Palomino. Model 8 is Thoroughbred. Model 10... yeah. 😉
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But where's lucky Model 7?😉
 
I'm fairly sure the info was stamped on the chip, but what I'll do tomorrow is to grab it if it's still there, and see if I can scan it & post the pic.

Dopefiend
 
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