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SATA Seagate 7200.7 and RAID 1 on 2 old IDE HDD's

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simms

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Q1 : Ok, I have two OLD OLD 40GB 128K buffer 4500rpm HDD's right now. Getting a 100GB SATA Seagate Cuda V 7200.7 (These are the famous silent ones right?) I want to put the 7200.7 on my C: and partition into a 20/80 (20 for OS/Apps, 80 for Docs etc.).

Q2: I want the two IDEs in RAID 1 for backup for the more crucial documents. Is this possible to run an SATA and then an IDE in RAID 1?

Q3: I have the Abit NF7-S v2.0 here and it says it supports RAID, but I'm not sure if it means SATA raid or IDE raid. Is there a difference?

Q4: And would I need to buy an adapter card for RAIDing then?

Q5: How do I set up RAID anyways - and after I do, the two IDE HDD's will show up as one in Windows right?

Q6: Finally, after all this mess: I *SHOULD* be looking forward to this outlook right? C: and D: are on the 7200.7 SATA Drive.

C: 20GB - WinXP OS, Program files
D: 80GB - Documents, Media Files
E: 40GB - IDE RAID 1 Backup of 40GB of D: files

Thanks.
Simon
 
A1: yes, they are one of the quiter ones
A2: Yes you can, but see A3
A3: That particular motherboard can only do the raid on the SATA connectors not ide
A4: Yes something like This
A5: usually its really easy ... select the raid type and select the 2 drives
A6: Yep, should look something like that

Dahak
 
Q7: How do I access RAID? It's a PCI card, so do I set it up in Windows? Or, do I press F7-F8 during Windows Setup to set up the partition there?
Q8: Instead of buying a RAID card, can I get one 40GB to RAID 1 the first 40GB of the D:, and the other 40GB ATA drive to RAID 1 the second part of the D:? That would allow me to save money instead of buying a RAID card, and I could RAID 1 my whole 80GB that way.

Diagram...


_________________________________|<---------40GB---------->| - ONE 40GB HDD
________________|<---------40GB------>| - ONE 40GB HDD
|<----20GB WinXP--->|<-----------------80GB Documents--------------->| - 7200.7 DRIVE


Q9: How does the RAIDing work? Does it mirror automatically, or do I have to drag files over from my partition to the RAIDs?

Q10: In the case it is automatically, then isn't the performance of my drive limited by the slower 40GB 4500 rpm drives?
 
A7: yes you will have to install drivers for it in windows,after the drivers are installed you can access it from the disk managment window (or any 3rd party disk partitioning software), if it is 2000/xp and you were planning on using it as the boot drive you then would have to hit f6 at the begining of the setup

A7b: unfourtunatly because the motherboard does not have support for IDE raid you will need to get the pci card, or if you are running windows xp pro you can set the 40gb hard drives as a dynamic drive type and windows raid volumes as an alternative

A8: Unfortunatly raid does not work quite exactly like you want. It only works only per drive and not partition. so you would have a raid with your 2 40gb hdd.

It would look something like this ...
120GB HDD 40GB HDD
|<----20GB WinXP--->|<----80GB--->| | {<-----40GB----->} [<---40gb mirror--->] |
C: D: | E: |

A9: Yes it is done automatically for the drives that is in the raid. But as above only on the 40GB so if there is anything important to keep, it will have to be copied to the 40gb first

A10: the preformace does take a bit of a hit, but probably not enough to be noticeable

Dahak
 
Ah. So another solution would be get the 7200.7 as an IDE.
Then, get two IDE-> SATA converters for the other HDD's, and connect those to the onboard SATA raid.

Then I would have 1 HDD that is 100GB (paritioned into 20/80, C: and D: ) and 1 RAID 1 40GB drive (E: ).
In order to back up files to the RAID 1 Setup, I would have to copy these files over from my D: to the E: manually.

Q11: Would you recommend I do this setup, and buy two converters and make use of onboard RAID, or should I just buy a Promise Controller for the ATA and buy a SATA 7200.7?

Q12: Is there a program that can be scheduled to copy specific files every so often (weekly for example, I tell it to copy some folders in D: to E: in the background?)

Simon
 
A11: I've personally have not used any of the ide->sata converters to have a real yes or no answer on that. you could see which way would cost less and go that route.

A12: you can create a batch file that would copy over the files from d to e and set that to run whenever you want it to run, ie once a week or every day through the scheduled task feature of xp

Dahak
 
Q13: you would need the 2nd one

Q14: right a controller only add more ide ports(like first card), where as a raid controller(2nd card) allows you to raid them

Dahak
 
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