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SATA optical drive?

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spongebobfan

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When can we expect to see SATA cd-rw and dvd-r drives hit the market? or if they're already available where can I find them?

Sponge
 
I was on Plextor's website the other day grabbing the latest firmware for my 708 and I see that they have (or introduced, not sure if it's for sale yet) a 12x DVD+R burner that uses SATA.
 
ooh... They are getting to market quicker than expected. Originally SATA opticals were anticipated later this year. NICE>
 
Now the question becomes where to find supported media...
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The plextor burner is nice because it burns 12X on MCC 003 (8x media). Wouldnt be surprisedif it might be able to do that on MCC 002 as well.

The MSI writer is unbridged. 🙂

Kristopher
 
I have a question, don't you need to load SATA drivers in Windows Setup in order to install Windows and have your SATA drives detected? How would you be able to load up the CD if the drive is SATA?
 
Originally posted by: Alkaline5
What's the point? IDE DVD drives are only ATA66 and even that's overkill for the actual transfer rates involved.
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IDE Cables = Big, bulky, ugly.

SATA cables = small, clean, pretty.
 
Originally posted by: wizdum
Originally posted by: Alkaline5
What's the point? IDE DVD drives are only ATA66 and even that's overkill for the actual transfer rates involved.
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IDE Cables = Big, bulky, ugly.

SATA cables = small, clean, pretty.
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True, in a lot of cases IDE cables block airflow because of that very fact. SATA cables are so much smaller.

EDIT: but then again, how many of us have PCs with windows anyway? Only a small %, most people just leave their PCs under a desk, beside a desk, or in my case IN the desk, I just see the pretty front :Q
 
What's the point? IDE DVD drives are only ATA66 and even that's overkill for the actual transfer rates involved.
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The same point of having SATA hard drives. Even the fastest current SATA hard drive (new 74 GB Raptor) top out at about 65MB/s. That just maxes the ATA66 spec. Until hard drives are mechanically faster the addition bus speed prived by anything over ATA100 is, IMO, a waste. The benefits lay in the cable size and things like command queuing and hot swapping. Anyone who buys SATA for speed (unless they only intend to use Raptors, and wants faster burst speeds) is fooling themselves. Again, at least until hard drive get faster mechanically.

IDE Cables = Big, bulky, ugly.

SATA cables = small, clean, pretty.
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True, in a lot of cases IDE cables block airflow because of that very fact. SATA cables are so much smaller.

EDIT: but then again, how many of us have PCs with windows anyway? Only a small %, most people just leave their PCs under a desk, beside a desk, or in my case IN the desk, I just see the pretty front :Q
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I think the real issue is not about case windows, and 2/3 of the answer reflect that 😉 And even without the case window it is a good feeling to know that the cables look nice rather than the rats nest that is what many IDE ribbon cables turn out looking like.

\Dan
 
Originally posted by: SLCentral
I have a question, don't you need to load SATA drivers in Windows Setup in order to install Windows and have your SATA drives detected? How would you be able to load up the CD if the drive is SATA?
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i was about to say the same thing
 
Originally posted by: EeyoreX
The same point of having SATA hard drives. Even the fastest current SATA hard drive (new 74 GB Raptor) top out at about 65MB/s. That just maxes the ATA66 spec. Until hard drives are mechanically faster the addition bus speed prived by anything over ATA100 is, IMO, a waste. The benefits lay in the cable size and things like command queuing and hot swapping. Anyone who buys SATA for speed (unless they only intend to use Raptors, and wants faster burst speeds) is fooling themselves. Again, at least until hard drive get faster mechanically.
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IMO the main benefit of SATA hds is to free up IDE channels so optical drives can be un-slaved. After reading your analysis, I guess the reverse is just as true.
 
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: SLCentral
I have a question, don't you need to load SATA drivers in Windows Setup in order to install Windows and have your SATA drives detected? How would you be able to load up the CD if the drive is SATA?
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i was about to say the same thing
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You just press F6 when setup ask you to load the drivers for it
 
But how can the computer read the CD-ROM in the first place without drivers? How could it even get to the F6 part of Windows Setup?
 
Originally posted by: SLCentral
But how can the computer read the CD-ROM in the first place without drivers? How could it even get to the F6 part of Windows Setup?
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as long as the BIOS recognizes it, you'll be fine.
For the CDrom, BIOS recognition will read the MBR from the CD and run the windows installer where you can hit F6.
The drivers installed after the F6 part are stricktly for the windows environment. For HDDs, it becomes important earlier on because of parition/formatting etc.
 
I am almost finished building my new PC but the last step I am stuck on is installing my raptor (which I plan to put winxp on). When I boot with it plugged in bios does not recognize it and says I have no SATA devices plugged in. Then, when I go to windows setup, hit f6,and insert the floppy I created from my asus K8V drivers cd, setup doesn't recognize the floppy and continues to prompt me to insert a floppy with drivers. Any suggestions?
 
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