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Originally posted by: Patt
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Hi Patt,

I read the entire thread and I'm sorry to hear about your situation. I have a serious question that's not been asked.

How sure are you of the security of your position? It was awfully convenient for you to happen to be in the room when salary was discussed. I know that your boss probably asked you to "Sit in on this interview so you can tell me what you think."

If they are hiring temps at 20% more than you make and not offering you a raise, maybe they are hinting?

Oh, you're a non-union shop; therefore the woman that just had the baby just lost her job. She doesn't know it yet. That "temp" is her permanent replacement.

The Libs will scream "That's highly illegal and the company will lost it's business license, etc!" It happens every single day. In a privately owned business you have no rights. Hope her hubby can support the family.

There's a hundred legal ways to fire her. Rewrite the job description so that only the new guy can fill it. No union to back you up, no contracts have been breached. That's only one.

Anyway, I'd ask for a 20% raise.
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I'm positive in terms of the security of my job at the moment. The department head has pulled me aside and has me taking courses as part of my grooming to follow in his steps when he retires, the customers (users) I deal with on site love my attitude compared to some of the rest of my team, and I'm highly competent.

Interesting spin on it ... but my supervisor doesn't have a devious bone in his body (I know him personally as well as from the work perspective), so I can't imagine him trying to drop a hint that way. Most likely, as someone else mentioned earlier, it was just bad form for him to have the rest of us there while discussing salary.

The temp will not be a permanent replacement for ol'preggers, but may be hired on in a full-time position if successful at the current position. I can see the point, but don't think it is reality at this point.

Thanks for your input though. I am going to talk to the supervisor this afternoon to raise my concerns, if for no other reason than the fact that our annual review isn't too far off, and I want to ensure that the bumpage is significant 😛
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You're welcome. 🙂 I'm the most cynical person I know...I usually look for something wrong this way I'm not disappointed later down the line. It's confusing, but it works for me. 😀

It sounds like you know your boss and the company very well. If your boss has specifically told you that he wants you to be his replacement, that's a very good thing. Hopefully, your loyalty and knowledge and sucking it up making a little less now pays big, big dividends down the road.

Good luck. :thumbsup:
 
i had a similar thing happen to me.

i spoke with my boss and asked her to review my salary in comparison to others on the team who were newer than me.

next merit increase was almost double the usual.

just be calm, make an appt to talk to your mgr, and explain your case.
 
Originally posted by: Patt
There are no incentives to work hard here because we're only rewarded on time spent, not value added to the company 🙁
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Well there you have it imo.

I have guys say the same in my office or another office. They don't believe they will get paid higher because of more work they do etc. Well me I work as hard as I can with the work I have. Finish it well and get more work = save time and do other stuff.

I'm in line for a fat raise (negociated already, just waiting to sign the new contract) and I am going to leap frog lots of guys at work. I have only been here 10 months, and a lot of the guys have been here 2, 5 or 6yrs but don't have a degree. I also think the company are screwing them because they don't have a degree or that they didn't negociate a good deal for themselves. A guy at work has a good degree but he didn't get such a big raise. He works well but I think he just didn't ask for a big raise and was 'waiting' for it to happen.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease 😛

What was your last salary increase?

Speak with your boss and ask for more £££ and ask what YOU HAVE TO DO to get paid more. Just give it to him straight. He can only say yes or no.

Koing
 
Originally posted by: robphelan
i had a similar thing happen to me.

i spoke with my boss and asked her to review my salary in comparison to others on the team who were newer than me.

next merit increase was almost double the usual.

just be calm, make an appt to talk to your mgr, and explain your case.
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This is the plan ... it is set up for later this afternoon.

As for your question Koing ... the last time I received a salary increase was last June, but it was an across the board 2% for everyone. Previous to that it was another year prior, so I'm pretty much due anyway.

Unfortunately with the town I live in, 200KM from the nearest city (45000 people) and 500KM from a city with 800000 people, there are few other employers to choose from. I don't want to burn any bridges, so I'm being pretty careful with what/how I approach this issue.
 
Originally posted by: Patt
Originally posted by: robphelan
i had a similar thing happen to me.

i spoke with my boss and asked her to review my salary in comparison to others on the team who were newer than me.

next merit increase was almost double the usual.

just be calm, make an appt to talk to your mgr, and explain your case.
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This is the plan ... it is set up for later this afternoon.

As for your question Koing ... the last time I received a salary increase was last June, but it was an across the board 2% for everyone. Previous to that it was another year prior, so I'm pretty much due anyway.

Unfortunately with the town I live in, 200KM from the nearest city (45000 people) and 500KM from a city with 800000 people, there are few other employers to choose from. I don't want to burn any bridges, so I'm being pretty careful with what/how I approach this issue.
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I see. I guess you can't be as aggressive in negociating then. They probably know this if they are smart and are taking advantage of it.

Koing
 
I guess I am tired of all this comparing. "I don't make as much as Jimmy." "Sara gets laid more than I do." "Sure I cheat on my taxes but not as much as John."

What ever happened to looking at yourself and not comparing it to anyone else. DO you feel that you make a good salary for your job. Actually, let me ask this a different way. Would you be thinking about the amount of money that you make had you not sat in on the interview? If the answer to that question is no then quit worrying. If the answer to that question is yes then ask for a raise or find a different job!
 
It's been my career experience that the only way to get a nice bump in salary is to change job or even quitting the job and come back a year later (got a 40% bump from what I was paid when I left).
 
Originally posted by: Mathlete
I guess I am tired of all this comparing. "I don't make as much as Jimmy." "Sara gets laid more than I do." "Sure I cheat on my taxes but not as much as John."

What ever happened to looking at yourself and not comparing it to anyone else. DO you feel that you make a good salary for your job. Actually, let me ask this a different way. Would you be thinking about the amount of money that you make had you not sat in on the interview? If the answer to that question is no then quit worrying. If the answer to that question is yes then ask for a raise or find a different job!
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Interesting perspective.

But I think it is primarily due to the fact it's a short term position. It's rational & fair IMHO.
 
lifes not fair.....

usually the biggest increase in salary is when you move from on e company on to another company...
 
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: mcvickj
Maybe the higher wage was necessary to make it appealing to someone who knows they will only be working with the company for 8 months and then be canned when the co-worker returns from maternity leave.
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:thumbsup:

Short-term = higher pay.
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Yup. Plenty of people that go from being temps to being permanent get a REDUCTION in pay.
 
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