Sarah Huckabee Sanders forces Chinese seed company to divest Arkansas land holdings

[brycejones]

To steal a line from a poster here. If you want to drive home prices, build more homes.

 

[APU_Fusion]

I love the smell of government takeover of private land ownership in the name of da freedoms. No one answered but what about all the manufacturing plants owned by foreign companies? Take them too! Take them there job providing foreigners and show them we Americans believe in free enterprise.

In fact, no one can own land in “Merica except 100% good old true Native Americans … wait

 

[IronWing]

In fact, no one can own land in “Merica except 100% good old true Native Americans … wait

Free Waterfall Junior : You can't own property, man.
Professor Hubert Farnsworth : I can, but that's because I'm not a penniless hippie.

 

[borosp1]

I love the smell of government takeover of private land ownership in the name of da freedoms. No one answered but what about all the manufacturing plants owned by foreign companies? Take them too! Take them there job providing foreigners and show them we Americans believe in free enterprise.

Accept when the foreign country is your adversary and doesn't have reciprocal land/business ownership rules you have in your own home country. When a country like China who has no limits on corporate espionage with stealing all and every technology and successful business ideas from the US and copying them while not opening the market for those companies is grounds for more harsh trade practices including limiting land rights in the US.

Foreign ownership of land, business, or buildings should be reciprocal and should only be done with FRIENDLY trade partners not countries that want to destroy you and your way of living.

 

[UNCjigga]

This might fly in Arkansas, but that ship has sailed in more urban jurisdictions. Isn’t like half of NYC real estate owned by China or the Middle East? I think the Chinese government elite parks like 70% of their wealth in foreign real estate.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Not the worst thing in the world to flood the US real estate market with tons of housing supply... especially right now.

While I feel like the constitutionality of this move is dubious at best, I don't intrinsically disagree with targeted forced divestment of foreign capital from certain economic sectors.

While my cynicism meter threatens to trip the alarm, I'll call a good move a good move until proven otherwise.

 

[trenchfoot]

This issue of foreigners "investing" in real estate in Hawaii is quite the tender issue what with land being such a valuable and very limited resource in the middle of a very large body of salt water. Land grabs are a hot issue here and a very transparent one, especially when it comes to the availability of affordable housing for the working class folks that live their whole lives in such a small and isolated state.

The state and municipal gov't is very aware of this issue and how the local folks are seriously concerned about it.

The disastrous fire that wiped out Lahaina is a perfect example of how the state gov't is wary of "outsiders" exploiting this tragedy for fun and profit as well as the survivors who lost everything they owned except the land that was passed on to them for generations and their concerns for conserving the Hawaiian traditions and culture that is steeped within that community.

 

[zinfamous]

My first thought of course is that Sanders is disappointed that her new child labor laws are too insane even for Chinese companies that refuse to employ local 8 year-olds in their fields, and Sanders has tons of crony redneck farmer friends that are more than happy to send children out to pick her cotton.

 

[akugami]

Sorry, I missed that article at first. It looks to me like all sorts of interesting legal issues are raised by that statute. As the company legally owned the property before that state statute was passed, the state is AFTER THE FACT forcing the sale of the property (through foreclosure methods if the company doesn't sell within two years without the state having to offer a dime for the property or make any restitution for the taking their statute causes. And I'm not even addressing the potential effects of federal law and/or treaties.

Nice political stunt that will, at a minimum, lead to some very profitable years for elite OK law firms. I can also see China retaliating against OK firms that have assets in Red China-which is governed by Chinese law, which is purely a creature of the Chinese Communist Party-no US Constitution rights there.

Well it's a smarter political stunt than taking on Mickey Mouse. Now take would take a real idiot.

DeSantis pulled a similar stunt, banning Chinese nationals from buying real estate.

 

[akugami]

Accept when the foreign country is your adversary and doesn't have reciprocal land/business ownership rules you have in your own home country. When a country like China who has no limits on corporate espionage with stealing all and every technology and successful business ideas from the US and copying them while not opening the market for those companies is grounds for more harsh trade practices including limiting land rights in the US.

Foreign ownership of land, business, or buildings should be reciprocal and should only be done with FRIENDLY trade partners not countries that want to destroy you and your way of living.

Full disclosure, I am Chinese by descent, but have never been a citizen of China or resided for any extended length of time in China.

I highlighted your last comment. In many ways, this is the dispute China has with the west, as this is exactly what was done to China. The forced takeover of land such as Hong Kong, among other territories. The humiliation of being forced at gun point to accept the import of drugs (opium) from the west, when they tried to stop such trade. The atrocities against its citizens committed by Japan. And yes, there's still a grudge.

To understand the Chinese government's way of thinking as well as the thinking of many of its citizens, I think it's important to understand why they feel that way. It's not just some random "we hate the west" mentality. China is so power hungry because it wants to never be subservient or suffer humiliation at the hands of any other nation ever again. This is also why China is so adamant about reintegrating what it considers a wayward son in Taiwan and is willing to go to war to do so.

 

[APU_Fusion]

Accept when the foreign country is your adversary and doesn't have reciprocal land/business ownership rules you have in your own home country. When a country like China who has no limits on corporate espionage with stealing all and every technology and successful business ideas from the US and copying them while not opening the market for those companies is grounds for more harsh trade practices including limiting land rights in the US.

Foreign ownership of land, business, or buildings should be reciprocal and should only be done with FRIENDLY trade partners not countries that want to destroy you and your way of living.

And when they seize all the American assets in China? It is a slippery slope when you can seize land from “adversaries” in a capitalistic, free enterprise, private property driven economic system.

 

[borosp1]

And when they seize all the American assets in China? It is a slippery slope when you can seize land from “adversaries” in a capitalistic, free enterprise, private property driven economic system.

Again, I said the rules should be reciprocal.. Can an American individual or company own farmland in China? The answer is NO! Can an American company do business in China in a fair competitive way without being squeezed out if its a successful business? The answer is no (see Uber, Yahoo, Google, LinkedIn, DELL, Airbnb, BLIZARD Ent., etc..).

The CCP is not a friend of the American People or government. They are in place to steal and take over the position the US holds in the world as the leading superpower. The CCP is an advisory of the United States and should be treated as such.

 

[APU_Fusion]

Again, I said the rules should be reciprocal.. Can an American individual or company own farmland in China? The answer is NO! Can an American company do business in China in a fair completive way without being squeezed out if its a successful business? The answer is no (see Uber, Yahoo, Google, LinkedIn, DELL, Airbnb, BLIZARD Ent., etc..).

The CCP is not a friend of the American People or government. They are in place to steal and take over the position the US holds in the world as the leading superpower. The CCP is an advisory of the United States and should be treated as such.

So we should hold our private property rules to a communist country? Got it. who determines what land and what adversary? Remember the late 80s when everyone thought Japanese would take it all? Should we have seized it from our “adversary”?

Seize the land Canada owns. You betcha

In fact, the total amount of U.S. agricultural land owned by Chinese interests is less than three-hundredths of 1%. from article. Dog whistle it up baby. Them there Chinese. 🙄🤣

 

[borosp1]

So we should hold our private property rules to a communist country? Got it. who determines what land and what adversary? Remember the late 80s when everyone thought Japanese would take it all? Should we have seized it from our “adversary”?

Seize the land Canada owns. You betcha

In fact, the total amount of U.S. agricultural land owned by Chinese interests is less than three-hundredths of 1%. from article. Dog whistle it up baby. Them there Chinese. 🙄🤣

We (US Government) should require countries who trade with United States to have reciprocal rules regarding commerce. If they (CCP) want to own land or open a business in the US than our companies / individuals should be able to do the same in Communist China. We need to make special rules for those countries who want to destroy / steal our way of living vs. those that want to replicate it and are friendly to our interests as a democratic nation. China has a long history of corporate espionage and stealing many of the United States companies great successful business, technology, health care products and services. We need to treat a country (China) with almost 1.5 billion people as an adversary who conducts themselves in an unfriendly manor to the US interests.

 

[BoomerD]

We (US Government) should require countries who trade with United States to have reciprocal rules regarding commerce. If they (CCP) want to own land or open a business in the US than our companies / individuals should be able to do the same in Communist China. We need to make special rules for those countries who want to destroy / steal our way of living vs. those that want to replicate it and are friendly to our interests as a democratic nation. China has a long history of corporate espionage and stealing many of the United States companies great successful business, technology, health care products and services. We need to treat a country (China) with almost 1.5 billion people as an advisory who conducts themselves in an unfriendly manor to the US interests.

Adversary.

 

[borosp1]

Adversary.

Thanks.. corrected!

 

[hal2kilo]

Full disclosure, I am Chinese by descent, but have never been a citizen of China or resided for any extended length of time in China.

I highlighted your last comment. In many ways, this is the dispute China has with the west, as this is exactly what was done to China. The forced takeover of land such as Hong Kong, among other territories. The humiliation of being forced at gun point to accept the import of drugs (opium) from the west, when they tried to stop such trade. The atrocities against its citizens committed by Japan. And yes, there's still a grudge.

To understand the Chinese government's way of thinking as well as the thinking of many of its citizens, I think it's important to understand why they feel that way. It's not just some random "we hate the west" mentality. China is so power hungry because it wants to never be subservient or suffer humiliation at the hands of any other nation ever again. This is also why China is so adamant about reintegrating what it considers a wayward son in Taiwan and is willing to go to war to do so.

There's a good movie about some of these issues starring Steve McQueen, "55 days at Peking".