SAPPHIRE PULSE Radeon RX 6400 4GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Low Profile Video Card 11315-01-20G $120 Shipped NE

[funboy6942]

ENJOY!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I had the XFX model and effectively paid less than that on Amazon day 2023? The price is still too high IMO. Needs PCIe 4.0 to perform up to snuff. Worst media engine out there. 4GB of ram. The A380 LP can be had for $100 often. The extra ram, media engine, and better price are attractive. Its drawbacks are dual slot, needing rebar and issues with old games. Most correctable by DXVK, but still a ding for the OOB PnP experience.

 

[funboy6942]

IDK, I got one in my HP SFF and seems to work great for what it is, but then I knew I couldnt do anything all too demanding with it. I am surprised it will play Lies of P

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Make no mistake it's game dependent on whether I'd prefer the A380 or 6400. Overall having owned both, I prefer the A380 though. For instance: I could play Spiderman on the A380 at settings that were too much for the 6400. Any game with hardware XeSS is a win. Any game where I could bump textures up from the extra ram was a win. Any game where I could use a little ray tracing was a win. For AMD favored games and older games the 6400 gets the nod on a modern PCIe 4.0 system. But that is the biggest problem, anyone that uses Cezanne on AM4 is SOOL.

 

[tcsenter]

So VCN 3.0.33 in Navi24 pretty much gutted video transcode/encoding support in hardware? Cost saving part/revision?

Video Core Next - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[DAPUNISHER]

So VCN 3.0.33 in Navi24 pretty much gutted video transcode/encoding support in hardware? Cost saving part/revision?

Video Core Next - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It was a sign of the times. Some here said it was a mobile part designed to be paired with an APU. The Tom's review puts the release into perspective -

AMD Radeon RX 6500 XT Review: The Return of the 'Budget' GPU

We can only hope it will actually cost $199

www.tomshardware.com

They were worried it would be over $300 at launch. Hard to believe that madness was only a couple of years ago. That's what the GTX 1650 was selling for. Even the 1050ti prices started at $250 or more. Crazy times when AIBs were churning out BNIB 1050tis and RTX 2060s again. The GT 1030 2GB DDR5 was going for $140 and up.

Anyways, that was then, this is now. This and the XFX LP single slot powered model are the only 2 cards of the 64/65 series with any place in the market now IMO. Being able to fit them in retired SFF office PCs is the niche. Even in PCIe 3.0 mode it is a superior gamer to the Intel HD IGP, ARC A310, and RX 550. Which are the only other LP single slot powered cards typically at that price point and below.

 

[tcsenter]

If transcode/encode is needed, pairing with Intel for QuickSync would be the way to go.

 

[Hans Gruber]

A380 is much better than the RX 6400. Especially when it's $99 on sale.

 

[funboy6942]

Just saying that this review did the A380 and the 6400 against each other 50 games........

7 of the 50, the A380 come out on top, one was a tie, and 42 others the 6400 beat the A380, some by a large margin I might add. Me I just game on it, so I find no biggie with it, and after making me look up the performance between the 2, and that's just these 50, for yes there could be others, but that goes both ways, but looking at these 50, I have to say my money is still on the 6400 IF GAMING is what you're after.

Now if we really want to split hairs: King of the LP's
If I had the extra $300+ laying around this is what I would get, but sadly I do not, so my $100 little 6400 will have to due for right now.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Now if we really want to split hairs: King of the LP's

I'm salivating over this: https://www.ipcstore.com/intel-arc-pro-a60-12-gb-gddr6-13941258

It's got more VRAM and it would be a lovely change from having to deal with monster fat cards. Dunno how many "years" I gotta wait for this to come down to $150

 

[funboy6942]

Is that going to come out in Low Profile, for thats all my little pc can take and has not 6 pin connector to get better

 

[igor_kavinski]

Is that going to come out in Low Profile, for thats all my little pc can take and has not 6 pin connector to get better

You never know!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Just saying that this review did the A380 and the 6400 against each other 50 games........

That review is at least a year old. ARC improves with every driver release, and has come a loooong way since then. The extra 2GB of vram and superior hardware upscaling make a difference too. I have owned both the 6400 and A380, and I'd go A380 every time. The robust media engine is what most buy it for. Often adding it as a second card.

The problem is there are no single slot A380s yet. ETAPrime slapped the A310 cooler between Sparkle models, but that is obviously not cost effective. That means the 6400 in your OP and the XFX I had, still rule that little niche for turning a SFF prebuilt with one slot into an ultra budget gamer. Every other single slot card is either much slower or much more expensive. At least that I have seen.

Conclusion: $120 is a good deal for that use case even with PCIe 3.0.

 

[tcsenter]

Many of the SFF chassis can accept a dual slot LP card. The SFF with four expansion slots/brackets especially. But even Dell's SFF with only two expansions slots (e.g. Precision 3460) was offered with a dual slot RTX A2000 or RTX 4000 ADA SFF.

 

[funboy6942]

Please excuse me as I act dumber, but wth is a media engine?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Please excuse me as I act dumber, but wth is a media engine?

My terrible tech acumen, that's what it is. Referring to the media capabilities of the GPU. Hardware encode and decode of the different codecs is what I use is as a blanket statement to cover. Car analogies are so prevalent when discussing PCs that I have perhaps gotten carried away with them. The RX 64/6500 does not support VP9 or AV1 as the A380 does. Which has full support for both. As @tcsenter pointed out you can use the iGPU on a CPU with the capabilities for that. He is also spot on about most of the SFF having enough room for dual slot LP cards. There are some however with the PCIe slot right next to the PSU, that's where the SS LP models shine. And for DIY tiny builds like ETAPrime features frequently.

 

[tcsenter]

The RX 64/6500 does not support VP9 or AV1 as the A380 does.

According to my link to Wikipedia, Navi24 decodes H.264, .H.265, and up to VP9, but no AV1 (or VP10).