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SAP training/understanding starting point

xyyz

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i'm abandoning networking because of several reasons.

i'm looking to update the skills for the FI and CO modules in SAP. from my understanding they are ultra dependent on a firm understanding of accounting, which leaves me at a serious disadvantage.

does anyone know of a good starting point for SAP? i haven't found much in the way of tutorials. it seems most of the training requires a trainer and is very expensive.

what's the best way to do this? should i start with the configuration module, and then work towards the ultimate goal of the FI and CO modules?

EDIT:

please offer advice of where to start. i'm not asking about the pros and cons of transitioning into the role of a SAP consultant. feel free to start your own thread if that's what you're doing.
 

OdiN

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A good starting point for SAP is to run away. Run away screaming with your arms flailing and never look back.
 

xyyz

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Originally posted by: OdiN
A good starting point for SAP is to run away. Run away screaming with your arms flailing and never look back.

you're the first to say that. everyone i know who's in SAP are always in demand and do extremely well.

besides, i enjoy the business side more than the technical side these days.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: xyyz
Originally posted by: OdiN
A good starting point for SAP is to run away. Run away screaming with your arms flailing and never look back.

you're the first to say that. everyone i know who's in SAP are always in demand and do extremely well.

besides, i enjoy the business side more than the technical side these days.

If you don't enjoy the technical side of things....I don't think you should use SAP.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: xyyz
Originally posted by: OdiN
A good starting point for SAP is to run away. Run away screaming with your arms flailing and never look back.

you're the first to say that. everyone i know who's in SAP are always in demand and do extremely well.

besides, i enjoy the business side more than the technical side these days.

It's great for consultants, even though every one of them is clueless, they just happen to be less clueless than companies that are attempting to implement it.
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: xyyz
Originally posted by: OdiN
A good starting point for SAP is to run away. Run away screaming with your arms flailing and never look back.

you're the first to say that. everyone i know who's in SAP are always in demand and do extremely well.

besides, i enjoy the business side more than the technical side these days.

It's great for consultants, even though every one of them is clueless, they just happen to be less clueless than companies that are attempting to implement it.

From a vantage point of having worked for a company that staffs SAP consultants, it's definitely a mixed bag. If you don't know the technical side of things, you won't do that well in it, at least in the positions we placed.
 

xyyz

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Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: xyyz
Originally posted by: OdiN
A good starting point for SAP is to run away. Run away screaming with your arms flailing and never look back.

you're the first to say that. everyone i know who's in SAP are always in demand and do extremely well.

besides, i enjoy the business side more than the technical side these days.

If you don't enjoy the technical side of things....I don't think you should use SAP.

what are you talking about? one half is the technical and the other is the functional.

FI and CO are functional modules.
 

Phokus

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I'm in sort of the same boat... I'm an accountant and my company is moving to SAP... i'm not going to be programming anything or doing any IT work with SAP, but i definetely need to know how to use it... what's a good starting place?
 

rchiu

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Originally posted by: Phokus
I'm in sort of the same boat... I'm an accountant and my company is moving to SAP... i'm not going to be programming anything or doing any IT work with SAP, but i definetely need to know how to use it... what's a good starting place?

User manual?
 

xyyz

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Originally posted by: Phokus
I'm in sort of the same boat... I'm an accountant and my company is moving to SAP... i'm not going to be programming anything or doing any IT work with SAP, but i definetely need to know how to use it... what's a good starting place?

there we go. exactly.

although, more so than use it, i want to get involved in implementation projects. the role i'm looking to do is... think of a BA/PM with functional understanding that pushes along the project based on what users want. i'll interface with developers, not develop the customizations myself.
 

spidey07

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Do you have the ability to get exposure to it? I'm sure there are plenty of books out there. You could have your employer send you to training? Join a SAP users group and hang out with them or participate in some user group forum? Get an entry level consulting or contract gig?

SAP isn't difficult to learn but it does things it's own way that you're probably not accustomed to. I have known guys that were extrememly fresh to SAP, they picked it up in a year and went into the SAP consulting business. What's great about SAP consulting is you just have to tell the customer something, it doesn't matter if it's correct or not. As long as you tell them something.
 

Gand1

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Visit the main office and have a nice german girl train you...

On the more serious note... the best way is to suck it up and pay for training. I know it's expensive but there is very little out there in the public domain to learn it properly And with SAP you need to learn it properly or forget it. Too many people have a half asses knowledge and end up fucking things up real bad.
 

rchiu

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Originally posted by: xyyz
i'm abandoning networking because of several reasons.

i'm looking to update the skills for the FI and CO modules in SAP. from my understanding they are ultra dependent on a firm understanding of accounting, which leaves me at a serious disadvantage.

does anyone know of a good starting point for SAP? i haven't found much in the way of tutorials. it seems most of the training requires a trainer and is very expensive.

what's the best way to do this? should i start with the configuration module, and then work towards the ultimate goal of the FI and CO modules?

EDIT:

please offer advice of where to start. i'm not asking about the pros and cons of transitioning into the role of a SAP consultant. feel free to start your own thread if that's what you're doing.

How old are you? What kinda degree do you have? The quickest way is to join a consulting company. They usually either hire out of school for young kids with no exp, or hire some experienced people. If you are not fresh out of school or have some transferable experience, the best way is probably finding companies using sap that hires people with your skill for jobs that's somewhat related to SAP.

I know there are bunch of SAP training, but being an SAP is not about knowing the software, but about knowing how to apply the software in a business, so you really need to see SAP in action and how it work together with business to get into the door.
 

xyyz

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i'm sorta leaning towards the training at this point as well.... like Gand1 said, "the best way is to suck it up and pay for training." there's a 3 month intensive course in Chicago that touches on the technical modules. i don't mind starting with the technical and moving to the functional if that's the way to do it. while there's nothing in the near future that indicates the diminishing need for SAP consultants, i am still a bit hesitant to spend that large sum of cash if it's not going to pay dividends.

of course the other route is to get into a company and see if i can somehow enter the realm of SAP. this would be really fantastic, but it's not too often to find a placement like this one.
 

cirrrocco

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Hi, if you have had relevant fucntional experience, just apply to accenture and deloitte, they will take you in. PM your resume. I will send it to some contacts I have in the company.

oh and btw I am a functional SAP consultant dealing in FI mostly focussing in AP,AR, GL and CM
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: cirrrocco
Hi, if you have had relevant fucntional experience, just apply to accenture and deloitte, they will take you in. PM your resume. I will send it to some contacts I have in the company.

oh and btw I am a functional SAP consultant dealing in FI mostly focussing in AP,AR, GL and CM

deloitte kicked me to the curb =*(
 

cirrrocco

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Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: cirrrocco
Hi, if you have had relevant fucntional experience, just apply to accenture and deloitte, they will take you in. PM your resume. I will send it to some contacts I have in the company.

oh and btw I am a functional SAP consultant dealing in FI mostly focussing in AP,AR, GL and CM

deloitte kicked me to the curb =*(

After they took you in?????. That's kinda lame of them..esp with the turnover!!!
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: xyyz
Originally posted by: OdiN
A good starting point for SAP is to run away. Run away screaming with your arms flailing and never look back.

you're the first to say that. everyone i know who's in SAP are always in demand and do extremely well.

besides, i enjoy the business side more than the technical side these days.

Can I be the second?

I've had to install it and use it before and hated every minute of it.

Take up Oracle or SQL or anything else...

*Please note, that the above post is to the best of my knowledge in direct compliance with Forum Guidelines[/quote]
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: cirrrocco
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: cirrrocco
Hi, if you have had relevant fucntional experience, just apply to accenture and deloitte, they will take you in. PM your resume. I will send it to some contacts I have in the company.

oh and btw I am a functional SAP consultant dealing in FI mostly focussing in AP,AR, GL and CM

deloitte kicked me to the curb =*(

After they took you in?????. That's kinda lame of them..esp with the turnover!!!

nah, after i submitted my resume lol
 

cirrrocco

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Contacts dude.....!!!! use em..there was one biatch, who was a English major and is now doing FI consulting..bridge that gap..:)))
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: cirrrocco
Contacts dude.....!!!! use em..there was one biatch, who was a English major and is now doing FI consulting..bridge that gap..:)))

i recruited like mad, no worries though.

after a year or so here gonna hit up my contacts again. going for IT audit @EY
 

xyyz

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Originally posted by: cirrrocco
Hi, if you have had relevant fucntional experience, just apply to accenture and deloitte, they will take you in. PM your resume. I will send it to some contacts I have in the company.

oh and btw I am a functional SAP consultant dealing in FI mostly focussing in AP,AR, GL and CM

my savior! thanks. i need to update the resume for my recent BMS gig. i'll shoot it on to you very soon.

much obliged.