Santorum's under fire - Right-wing groups push him to take up fight against Specter...UPDATE: Republicans back Specter

conjur

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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04317/410839.stm
WASHINGTON -- Conservative groups yesterday urged Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum to help lead the fight to deny the Senate judiciary committee chairmanship to his colleague, Sen. Arlen Specter.

The groups noted that they already were upset with Santorum, the No. 3 Republican in the Senate, for supporting Specter earlier this year in his Republican primary contest against Rep. Patrick Toomey, a conservative and strong opponent of abortion.

If Santorum hopes to avoid his own Senate primary battle in two years --and perhaps make a run for president in 2008 -- he needs to heed conservative concerns about whether Specter, a moderate, can be trusted to shepherd President Bush's judicial nominees through the Senate, the groups said.

"When I was out on the road in Pennsylvania, people were so angry with Sen. Santorum for backing Sen. Specter" in the primary, said the Rev. Patrick Mahoney, head of the Christian Defense Coalition. "Wouldn't it be fascinating if Congressman Toomey ran a primary against Santorum?"

Jan LaRue, chief counsel of the Concerned Women for America, agreed that Santorum "has got to do something here. The Senate controls its own rules; there are a number of ways they can address this. It's up to them, but get rid of him [Specter].

"Santorum would like to become the president of the United States, but he alienated a lot of pro-family, pro-life people when he came to Specter's aid over Toomey, who is a strong pro-life man...," LaRue said. "If he wants to get back that kind of support for his future political ambitions, he's got to do something" about Specter.

Santorum has so far refused, however, to be drawn into the public controversy. Asked for a comment yesterday, Santorum's press secretary, Christine Shott, said he was sticking with his statement earlier this week that he was willing to leave the decision up to the Republican members of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Conservative groups, meanwhile, announced that they were planning a "pray-in" Tuesday in Washington as part of their battle against Specter. The groups will pray outside one of the Senate office buildings and then attempt to present their concerns to Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn.

The pray-in is just the latest in a series of efforts -- including the Web sites www.notarlen.com and www.notspecter.com -- to defeat Specter's bid for the chairmanship. While conservatives have never championed Specter, they were particularly outraged by his recent comments that Bush should be "mindful" that Senate Democrats, now numbering 44, still have enough votes to block judicial nominees, including potential U.S. Supreme Court choices.

"It brought back all of the mistrust we have of him," said Nancy Staible, head of the Pennsylvania branch of Concerned Women for America. "Many of us feel betrayed."

But Specter, who just won re-election to a fifth term, insisted again yesterday in an interview that he wasn't issuing a warning to Bush.

"There are two basic facts in this matter. One, I have never had a litmus test for nominees. ... And, two, I have supported President Bush's nominees. These people [conservative foes] like to have it all their own way."

Specter also said he has been singled out because he is the lone moderate Republican on the judiciary panel, and the same people who opposed him in the primary now are attempting to deny him the committee chairmanship. "It's another campaign," he said, adding, "It's a question of balance -- not only balance within the party, but balance within the country."

The chairmanship would normally be Specter's by seniority, although senators must hold a formal vote when the new session of Congress begins in January. But the Specter issue is expected to come up next week at a meeting of Senate Republicans when the current Congress returns for a lame-duck session.

Stung by the conservatives' campaign, which has flooded Capitol Hill with e-mails and phone calls, Specter has mounted his own effort to collect enough Senate GOP backing to assure him the judiciary post. He said he had spoken directly with most of the other nine senators who now serve on the committee.

He added that current Chairman Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, who is denied another turn at the helm by Senate term limits, has promised to schedule a meeting of the panel's Republicans next week so that Specter can address them. The issue is complicated by the fact that an additional Republican seat may be added to the committee in January and that some current members may leave the panel for seats on other committees.

Mahoney said conservative groups were prepared to "keep the pressure on" for the next couple of months. "This is just the first step in a long, drawn-out process that won't end until January," he said.

Defeating Specter's quest for the judiciary committee top spot is particularly important now, conservatives said, since it appears that Bush could have at least one Supreme Court seat to fill. They see it as imperative that the Senate approve judges who will uphold "the rule of law." To many conservatives, the Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion is an example of when judges made law, instead of upholding it.

"So many of the people who worked so hard for the president and for the Republican majority in the House and Senate -- their main concern was [curtailing] judicial activism," Mahoney said. "To suddenly wake up ... and realize that all of your hard work has resulted in perhaps the chairmanship of Sen. Arlen Specter is very troubling.

"What is even more troubling is the fact that there were many first-time voters. ... Many of them asked, 'Will my vote make a difference? Can we change the establishment and culture of Washington, D.C.?' And we said, 'Yes, you can.' "

If Senate Republicans refuse to heed conservative concerns about Specter, he added, that would show a "major disconnect" between them and the rest of the party. But it's not easy to break into the Senate's "very close-knit subculture," Mahoney said.

"It's an uphill battle to fight seniority. All of the 55 Republicans have a vested interest in seniority. ... But we hope that a new day dawned in Washington, D.C. on Nov. 2."
Damn fundamental Christian thugs. Such tolerance.
 

Mill

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Whilst this is aggravating and unnecessary, I find it quite ironic that you preach to them about tolerance.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Mill
Whilst this is aggravating and unnecessary, I find it quite ironic that you preach to them about tolerance.
Nice to see Conjur has joined the "let's bash christians and white trash but ignore fundamental islam" liberal crowd 100%. His transformation is almost complete.

 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Mill
Whilst this is aggravating and unnecessary, I find it quite ironic that you preach to them about tolerance.
<sigh>


Here we go again. Bashing someone for being intolerant of the intolerant.


Guess that makes you intolerant of those who are intolerant of the intolerant.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Mill
Whilst this is aggravating and unnecessary, I find it quite ironic that you preach to them about tolerance.
<sigh>


Here we go again. Bashing someone for being intolerant of the intolerant.


Guess that makes you intolerant of those who are intolerant of the intolerant.

No, I'm not intolerant, I'm disappointed.
 

conjur

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As if I care? Sorry, I don't pander to bigots and intolerant pricks (Fund-A-Mentals)
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: conjur
As if I care? Sorry, I don't pander to bigots and intolerant pricks (Fund-A-Mentals)

Look up the word pander. Being tolerant != pandering. You seem very confused today, or that might just be your hypocrisy.
 

Moonbeam

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All that is required for evil to succeed if for good people to do nothing. The world was rightfully intolerant of Nazi Germany.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: conjur
As if I care? Sorry, I don't pander to bigots and intolerant pricks (Fund-A-Mentals)

Look up the word pander. Being tolerant != pandering. You seem very confused today, or that might just be your hypocrisy.
I know the difference. You apparently have no problem with bigots.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: conjur
As if I care? Sorry, I don't pander to bigots and intolerant pricks (Fund-A-Mentals)

Look up the word pander. Being tolerant != pandering. You seem very confused today, or that might just be your hypocrisy.
I know the difference. You apparently have no problem with bigots.

How so? What I have said that made it "apparent" that I have no problem with bigots?
 

TheGameIs21

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Originally posted by: conjur
As if I care? Sorry, I don't pander to bigots and intolerant pricks (Fund-A-Mentals)

Pot calling the kettle black.....

You are the most intolerant person on this board when it comes to someone not agreeing with you. It's either your way or they must be idiots....

 

conjur

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Specter gains crucial support to head panel
Senator says he will give Bush judicial nominees quick hearings
WASHINGTON - Sen. Arlen Specter on Thursday won the support of the Senate Judiciary Committee?s Republicans to be their chairman next year, surviving complaints from abortion opponents who lobbied to skip over him in favor of a conservative.

?I have assured the president that I would give his nominees quick committee hearings and early committee votes,? Specter said at a news conference where outgoing chairman Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said the panel?s Republican were unanimous in backing the Pennsylvania moderate.

?I have no reason to believe that I?ll be unable to support any individual President Bush finds worthy? of the federal bench, Specter told reporters.

He read from a statement he wrote that was cleared painstakingly in advance by committee members as well as the GOP leadership, who are determined to confirm Bush?s second-term nominees, possibly including a Supreme Court vacancy.

Even so, Specter said he felt no pressure to make the commitments he made.

Democrats have successfully blocked 10 of Bush?s first-term judicial nominees, while permitting confirmation of more than 200. Republicans sought to make a campaign issue of the political combat, accusing Democrats of obstructionism.

The GOP gained four seats on Nov. 2, defeating Democratic Leader Tom Daschle at home in South Dakota in the process. Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee told reporters earlier this week he had opened discussions with Sen. Harry Reid, the new Democratic leader in hopes of easing the path to confirmation for Bush?s second-term appointments.

Frist and others have long held out the option of seeking a change in Senate procedures to strip Democrats of their ability to filibuster judicial appointments ? a tactic that obliges supporters to command 60 votes instead of a simple majority.

Several sources said that inside the closed-door GOP meetings in recent days, Specter has been prodded to declare his support for such a change.
Good to see some politicians going with what's right instead of the Christian Right.


But, looks like the GOP is up to more tricks to change rules to suit their agenda. They've already rescinded rules *they* put in place to keep indicted politicians from being leaders in order that Tom DeLay be able to retain his House Leader position should he be indicted.
 

imported_Aelius

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Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
Originally posted by: conjur
As if I care? Sorry, I don't pander to bigots and intolerant pricks (Fund-A-Mentals)

Pot calling the kettle black.....

You are the most intolerant person on this board when it comes to someone not agreeing with you. It's either your way or they must be idiots....

That's funny cause that seems to be the motto of many Christian, Neo-Con, Islamic, fascist or simply ignorant fanatics on this board when describing others who don't share their views.

Not surprising really. It's actually expected and has been historically a very common approach. When in doubt use character assassination.

So you trying to paint conjur as some sort of poster boy for these people is actually humours when such a statement actually fits quite a few other people who shall remain nameless but will no doubt feel the need to stand up for what they truly think is right. :laugh: