Santorum wants to impose 'Judeo-Christian Sharia'

[Cerpin Taxt]

I find it interesting that so many people say it is perfectly fine to execute one human for the rape committed by another human. That is very ancient Greek of you all...and quite barbaric.

A fetus isn't a human, moron.

 

[RabidMongoose]

I already made the argument, you are just being anal as usual. Sorry.

InfoHawk is a troll, you should just ignore him.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The point is, Muslim things have been made to sound foerign and terrifying, while things very similar in our culture are 'sacred' and protected and praised.

This is common in xenophobia. Instead of noticing the commonalities of humanity with other people, the areas of being different are highlighted and exaggerated and attacked.

Hell, the Muslims themselves can't get along over a very minor difference between Sharia and Sunni - and millions of Christian Americans vote against other Christians.

From the Egyptian provisional constitution, Article 2

Islam is the religion of the state and the Arabic language is its official
language. Principles of Islamic law (Shari’a) are the principal source of
legislation.

Now Christians vote against Christians, and Santorum is a loon, but would you find the equivalent in the US Constitution?

 

[cybrsage]

A fetus isn't a human, moron.

Yes it is. Is it a dolphin? How about an oak? Maybe a human fetus is a bird that changes species into human during gestation?

Every human alive today was always human...none of them have ever been any other species at any time in their development from Zygote to Elderly.

 

[cybrsage]

LOL!
Fucking idiot.

You did not find it a bit interesting that you posted an ignorant absolutist statement while denigrating anyone who does such things?

Hmmm....

 

[cybrsage]

Hell, the Muslims themselves can't get along over a very minor difference between Sharia and Sunni - and millions of Christian Americans vote against other Christians.

That is the interesting part. Christians do not kill other Christians (anymore) because they hold differing views on what the Bible says. Yes, at one time, but that was long ago. Even the Irish wars were about British occupation more than religion.

Sunni Muslims consider Shia Muslims to be apostates and therefor they should be killed...and they routinely blow up Shia mosques, etc. The main difference is in who should lead the world wide califate.

 

[StrangerGuy]

That is the interesting part. Christians do not kill other Christians (anymore) because they hold differing views on what the Bible says. Yes, at one time, but that was long ago. Even the Irish wars were about British occupation more than religion.

Sunni Muslims consider Shia Muslims to be apostates and therefor they should be killed...and they routinely blow up Shia mosques, etc. The main difference is in who should lead the world wide califate.

Lies. Everyone knows Islam is THE peace loving religion. (sarcasm)

It blows my mind of the sheer absurdity of killing somebody else just because they didn't agree with each other over interpretations of a silly book. Did that ever crossed their minds?

 

[cybrsage]

Lies. Everyone knows Islam is THE peace loving religion. (sarcasm)

If you remove the Hadiths (the life and times of Mohammed) and only follow the Quran, it is a MUCH more peaceful religion. Did you know the Quran calls Jews and Christians "The People of the Book" and says not to treat them the same as pagans/polytheists/godless? It basically says that mankind messed up the original info Allah sent down because we are flawed creatures. Through no fault of our own, we are no longer doing the right thing. This is why Allah sent down the Quran, to restore the proper way. Christians and Jews should be protected and taught the right way, as one does with a child who was taught wrong and therefor is confused.

It blows my mind of the sheer absurdity of killing somebody else just because they didn't agree with each other over interpretations of a silly book. Did that ever crossed their minds?

Honestly, there is nothing more important than the commands of one's god, if one truely believes said god is real. It is one of the few things actually worth fighting and dying for. That said, one must actually deeply study the writings of the god before jumping into battle for the god.

 

[actuarial]

Such sloppy thinking: Muslim "things." No not Muslim "things." Specifically, "Sharia." That specific idea has no equivalent in Christianity.

You are right that is doesn't have a true equivalent.

But to the non religious, like myself, there's no effective difference between a person forcing laws upon me against logic based on their fairy tale beliefs because their book told them they have to force them, and a person forcing laws upon me against logic based on their fairy tale beliefs because they believe they should.

All I care about is not having laws based on religion alone. I don't care if it is because 'God' specifically told them to enforce them or just implied it.

 

[cybrsage]

There are a lot of laws based on morality alone, such as public nudity and the plethoral of sexual laws. It is illegal to have sex in public, illegal to masteurbate in public, etc. The only reason to have such laws is morality...and the morality of a society is directly related to the predominant religion (or lack there of) in a society.

 

[nyker96]

I say what looks like a duck, walks like a duck is a .... cat?!

 

[senseamp]

Do you really get the impression Christians are trying to align themselves with Jews? I don't. I think you're reading too much into the CNN title that the Palestinian-American author might have also had a role in choosing. (It's also sort of funny because Christians have often been accused of being anti-Semitic.)

The term judeo-christian accurately reflects the heavy influence that the Old Testament has on conservative Christians. A lot of the more primitive stuff comes from the Old Testament. The fact that many American Jews today are secular and liberal doesn't really change that.

No, it's conservatives who use Judeo-Christian as a term, and the reason is to pretend like they aren't just doing it to cram Christianity down people throats, while doing exactly that. The term Christian already includes belief in the Old Testament, so no need to drag Jews into it. Certainly fighting for Christmas trees in public square, they aren't doing it for the Jews.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Yes it is. Is it a dolphin? How about an oak? Maybe a human fetus is a bird that changes species into human during gestation?

This is why you're stupid: not everything that is human (adjective) is a human (noun). Humans (noun) are individuals, i.e. persons, and a fetus is not.

Every human alive today was always human...none of them have ever been any other species at any time in their development from Zygote to Elderly.

You didn't say it was human (adjective). You said it was a human (noun). That is false, and you're an idiot.

 

[peonyu]

This is just Fear mongering..

We [the Western people of European descent mostly] are not ruled by our Priests and Preachers anymore, even the most die hard Catholic nations in the past are full blown "Non Religion" at the Government level these days. Spain and Italy were the most zealous of the Catholics in the past and today they are allowing millions of Muslims to permanently move and live in their lands...That right there is proof enough that Christian religion lost its power on those countries. If any country today was truely fundamentalist Christian then the LAST thing they would allow is non-Christians to move there and undermine their religion [which Islam does do in Europe].

In the US its even more lopsided. Yea we have some people who are fundy Christian but they are overwhelmingly old and they also have little to no power in Government. If we were to poll the religious background of folks in Government, Judiasm would have a good chance as being dominant [go conspiracy theorists?].

 

[ch33zw1z]

Prepare for more unwanted babies. No porn=more rapists=more unwanted babies. Now that's some good ol' moving forward.

 

[Steeplerot]

Reactionary jerks are no different regardless if it muslim conservatives wishing for the death of others who don't buy their bs or the cable news junky haters here, the only differnce is europe through political and geographic luck made enough money to educate its people before the mideast by a hundred years or two. Be nice to colonize another planet soon so they can all piss off and kill one another and stop being such a drag on civilization. Planet of the haters cagematches, they can pay per view the skyfairy showdown.

 

[1prophet]

Prepare for more unwanted babies. No porn=more rapists=more unwanted babies. Now that's some good ol' moving forward.

That line of thinking is just as stupid as those that believe a woman can avoid rape by not dressing provacitevly.
.

 

[1prophet]

This is just Fear mongering..

We [the Western people of European descent mostly] are not ruled by our Priests and Preachers anymore, even the most die hard Catholic nations in the past are full blown "Non Religion" at the Government level these days. Spain and Italy were the most zealous of the Catholics in the past and today they are allowing millions of Muslims to permanently move and live in their lands...That right there is proof enough that Christian religion lost its power on those countries. If any country today was truely fundamentalist Christian then the LAST thing they would allow is non-Christians to move there and undermine their religion [which Islam does do in Europe].

In the US its even more lopsided. Yea we have some people who are fundy Christian but they are overwhelmingly old and they also have little to no power in Government. If we were to poll the religious background of folks in Government, Judiasm would have a good chance as being dominant [go conspiracy theorists?].

It's amazing isn't it, how the so called liberals in this forum who love to mock creationists, conservatives, as some slack jaw, knuckle dragging illogical barbarians who can't seem to grasp any form of logical thinking,

but when it comes to a guy like Santorum they use the same type of illogical fearmongering Karl Rove tactics that they accuse the other side of using.

And for all those that are to thick to get it the de facto religion of most Americans is the Almighty Dollar, that is why this country is in the shape it is in today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

 

[DominionSeraph]

It's not a non-sequitur.

Holy fuck, it sure as hell is! You treated any declarative statement as being the equal of religious dogma when you implied that my dismissal of religious dogma must also apply to black and white thinking. But it is religion's disconnect from reality that makes its statements problematic, not the fact that it makes statements! So it's a total non sequitur.

L2logic.

 

[DominionSeraph]

You did not find it a bit interesting that you posted an ignorant absolutist statement while denigrating anyone who does such things?

Not very bright, are ya?

I am quite allowed to draw conclusions from the evidence provided, and the evidence supports the notion that you are intellectually inferior to me. Don't like it? Do better.

 

[ch33zw1z]

That line of thinking is just as stupid as those that believe a woman can avoid rape by not dressing provacitevly.
.

You're right, she'll learn to love the little tyke.

My line of thinking also implied that somehow someone managed to actually eradicate porn. I think that's damn near impossible.

 

[cybrsage]

This is why you're stupid: not everything that is human (adjective) is a human (noun). Humans (noun) are individuals, i.e. persons, and a fetus is not.

Nope. The fetus is a 100% unique DNA expressed human, and the entirety of that human.

I think you are confusing Humans with Human Beings. You are not a being until after birth. Prior to birth, you are still a human (since humans are NEVER another species).

You didn't say it was human (adjective). You said it was a human (noun). That is false, and I am an idiot for saying it.

The zygote is a human. Just because you do not like it, does not suddenly make it false. And yes, you are an idiot for saying it.

 

[cybrsage]

Not very bright, are ya?

Obviously brighter than you. Doh! You are so stupid you walked right into that one. Double Doh!

I am quite allowed to draw conclusions from the evidence provided, and the evidence supports the notion that you are intellectually inferior to me. Don't like it? Do better.

How does this address that you posted an ignorant absolutist statement while denigrating anyone who does such things?

 

[DominionSeraph]

Obviously brighter than you. Doh! You are so stupid you walked right into that one. Double Doh!

You actually operated in that realm? Seriously?

Wow. Kiddie pool.

And you're right, I don't check down there. There's no reason for one such as myself to do so. It holds nothing of interest.

How does this address that you posted an ignorant absolutist statement while denigrating anyone who does such things?

Learn the definition of "absolute", fucktard.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Anyone who states that the laws of the United States in the 21st century need to conform to the myths of a ancient tribe of nomads is not, in my opinion, at all qualified to serve as president.