Sandy E in stock at newegg

[DaveSimmons]

> But why buy this?
Bragging rights for most of the buyers.

None for me thanks. I could afford one, but don't see any value over an i5-2500K or i7-2600K for gaming and I'd rather give the money to Child's Play instead (hint, hint).

 

[Smartazz]

Why so much hate for this processor? Sure, it's $600, but there are people out there who want those two extra threads. Sure, in gaming it's not any better than the 2500k and 2600k, but there are people who use their computers for more than gaming. There's also the people who want the extra PCI-e lanes.

edit: It's a shame that this processor came out in November though. The 1155 Sandy Bridge processors came out almost 10 months ago.

 

[notty22]

There are CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) for 80.00 .

EVGA has 3 or 4 X79 boards ready at launch.
http://www.evga.com/articles/00655/

 

[skipsneeky2]

Damn $229 for a asrock mobo as their cheapest option on newegg .

Is there qualified quad channel kits for this set up or could someone perhaps with 2 dual channel 4gb kits maybe put them together for the quad channel effect?

 

[notty22]

Why so much hate for this processor? Sure, it's $600, but there are people out there who want those two extra threads. Sure, in gaming it's not any better than the 2500k and 2600k, but there are people who use their computers for more than gaming. There's also the people who want the extra PCI-e lanes.

I agree.

 

[skipsneeky2]

you can get 8gb for 50-60 bucks easily and sometimes even deals for 40 bucks or less out there. MOST people will be getting 16gb or more for an x79 board though.

Qualified quad kits or two 4gb dual channel kits?

 

[GammaLaser]

Not sure what qualified quad means, as long as you have 4 matched sticks you can get quad-channel, whether you bought a set of 4 or 2 of the same dual stick set at the same time.

 

[toyota]

Qualified quad kits or two 4gb dual channel kits?

both and you can look for yourself. its not like you are going to be buying so why are you concerned?

you can get 16gb (4x4gb) 1600mhz kits for 80-100 bucks. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...0006127&IsNodeId=1&name=DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

 

[skipsneeky2]

Why so much hate for this processor? Sure, it's $600, but there are people out there who want those two extra threads. Sure, in gaming it's not any better than the 2500k and 2600k, but there are people who use their computers for more than gaming. There's also the people who want the extra PCI-e lanes.

edit: It's a shame that this processor came out in November though. The 1155 Sandy Bridge processors came out almost 10 months ago.

Many people bought the first cheapest intel quad core when it was $800 being the q6600.

Still many using that processor 4 years later and heck the cheapest 6 core is $600 which is not that bad compared to the q6600 at release.

Your right not everyone buying this is expecting better gaming performance,just better multithreaded performance .

 

[Chiropteran]

This processor is within the realm of affordability even for someone not rich. A Ferrari or a place in Pebble Beach is entirely different matter.

There is a lot more to it than that.

The actual median household income is $50k based on recent census numbers. Computers used to be much more expensive 15 years ago but people still bought them, even the poor ones. Just making the point that a non-rich person can afford a 3930K if he really wanted one whereas a house on Pebble Beach would not be attainable.

15 years ago, the choice was to spend money on a new computer or be unable to run modern software.

Today, most people who are looking at this CPU don't need it, not the absolute sense. The software they use runs fine on a $100 bargain CPU. It was okay to spend $3k on a computer 15 years ago because the returns were worth it, it was actually a tool you bought to improve your life in some ways. Today, spending $3k on a computer is just a luxury, you can do fine with your old computer or a cheap $300 model.

Also, if you are going to spend an extra $900 or so above and beyond what you need for a basic machine, you can get a lot more bang for your buck by spending that money on an SSD, upgrading your internet access, better video card, faster printer, better monitor, or whatnot, depending on your exact usage patterns. Unless I was "rich", and already able to afford the best in every category, it wouldn't make sense to spend so much on a CPU and leave other aspects of my computer experience behind.

 

[mmaestro]

The actual median household income is $50k based on recent census numbers. Computers used to be much more expensive 15 years ago but people still bought them, even the poor ones. Just making the point that a non-rich person can afford a 3930K if he really wanted one whereas a house on Pebble Beach would not be attainable.

Household vs. individual. Also, FWIW, in the last couple of years the individual number's dropped some $4k, although I'd need to do some significant digging to find the source for that. My point was that you're really getting into the relatively wealthy bracket to be looking at this processor, especially when you take into account mobo, memory and such. I now spend a lot of time in fairly low income schools, and the number of kids who don't have a computer at home at all is staggering to me. These days I tend to get more excited about Pentiums and Fusion on that basis. OK, I should step away from the political before I get us all in trouble.

I do think there's value in SB-E, but you're either spending a lot of unnecessary money because you want to play around with the tech (and all power to you, we're mostly here because we've got a hobby) or you have some pretty specialized needs that make it worthwhile.

 

[exar333]

IF you are buying this primarily for a single gpu gaming rig then you are an idiot. having this in your sig will make people scratch their head and laugh so please do not think people will actually be impressed. lol

I would partially agree here. I use my rig for 50/50 gaming and encoding/VM work. I am hoping with the new series of GPUs to grab 2-3 of them and be good for a while in gaming. Looking to go 3xmonitor displays and will need some serious horsepower to run it. For now though, it seems silly to buy too much into the current gen with some serious performance increases on the horizon.

Plus, it's been WAY too long for some of us X58 early-adopters... 3 Years, I need a new build already!

 

[Shmee]

I would disagree that you need to be rich to buy this. I don't make much money right now, (well now I make nearly nothing b/c of lack of job) but when I do get a job, even if it is just 15-20 per hour fixing computers, I would be considering it. That or IB-E. The evga classified looks pretty sweet.

 

[toyota]

I would disagree that you need to be rich to buy this. I don't make much money right now, (well now I make nearly nothing b/c of lack of job) but when I do get a job, even if it is just 15-20 per hour fixing computers, I would be considering it. That or IB-E. The evga classified looks pretty sweet.

you must not have any adult responsibilities if you have a job working only 15-20 hr per week and are considering this just because you can.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Review "Cons: Price. Obviously being an enthusiast series this is expensive. But I'm a lil curious and baffled....an extra $500 only buys me 3MB more L3 cache and 0.1 GHz? Why not just buy two 3930Ks? I have a feeling most people will just get this guy's lil brutha.

New socket. If Intel stuck to the same sockets (like AMD) their sales would double.

No cooler included? Whaa? We all know nobody uses the stock HSF anyways, but I like to sell mine on e*ay and recoup $20. Now Intel took that away to save a buck. AND they jacked the price, but that was expected."

xDDD lol

 

[exar333]

$900 for a CPU + high-end MB is not a huge amount. Folks pay way more than this to get a custom rig from someone like Alienware, that is still slower. $900 is what folks drop on a 2x580 SLI rig, or just a 27'' IPS monitor.

It's not 'cheap' but it's not breaking the bank either. After I sell my old CPU + RAM, the net cost is only about $600. Not bad since my last rig lasted 3 years...

I sold my 2x3GB triple channel kit for $80 on ebay, and bought 32GB (8x4) for $150. Net cost there was only $70 for 5x the RAM. Again, not bad at all.

The MBs that are selling for the X79 are all very good boards as well. They might be $50-75 more than the equivalent 'high-end' boards that lack PCI-E 3.0, SATA6, and USB3.0. Not bad at all.

I paid $300 + $300 to get into the X58 at launch and didn't regret that at all.

 

[Shmee]

you must not have any adult responsibilities if you have a job working only 15-20 hr per week and are considering this just because you can.

haha, I wouldn't take a job for 15-20 per week, :C

anyways you could elaborate, or you could just drop it

 

[toyota]

oops I thought you said 15-20 hours not 15-20 per hour...

 

[Smartazz]

Review "Cons: Price. Obviously being an enthusiast series this is expensive. But I'm a lil curious and baffled....an extra $500 only buys me 3MB more L3 cache and 0.1 GHz? Why not just buy two 3930Ks? I have a feeling most people will just get this guy's lil brutha.

New socket. If Intel stuck to the same sockets (like AMD) their sales would double.

No cooler included? Whaa? We all know nobody uses the stock HSF anyways, but I like to sell mine on e*ay and recoup $20. Now Intel took that away to save a buck. AND they jacked the price, but that was expected."

xDDD lol

Honestly, when you're spending this kind of money on a CPU, the added cost of a motherboard doesn't matter that much. Also, $20 is nothing compared to the price of a new platform. At $600, this chip isn't that bad of a ripoff, enthusiast level hardware tends to cost a lot of money. The Q6600 wasn't this cheap and still remains somewhat relevant to this day. The 980x was Intel's first 6 core processor and it was $1000 and there was no lower cost 970 yet. The biggest problem I see with SB-E is that it's so late.

 

[Shmee]

ya, its a bit up their, but not too bad. it looks like a really nice multi GPU platform, especially for folders, and with the next gen GPUs hopefully coming soon.

on a side note, though 15 hours per week would likely be less than ideal, I would have to be part time b/c I am also in school. Just don't have the job yet, but I am A+ Cert, plus working on MS cert, so hopefully that will help.

also, anyone start Ocing yet? Would love to see results!

 

[gmaster456]

Cooling device not included - Processor Only

Not that anyone would use it.



But why buy this? As I stated in the other thread, 98% of people will see no difference with this over a 2500k in Gaming or a 2600k at anything else they do unless they are splitting hairs and looking for #'s on paper, all for $1000!

There's more uses for CPU's aside from gaming

 

[LoneNinja]

I think I'd rather get Bulldozer, it has 8 real cores. Moar cores = more performance right? lol

In all seriousness I would probably buy one of these if I had the funds, but I won't be getting a new PC any time soon. Looks like a great toy for photoshop/3ds max. I'm still looking at IB for my next build, it'll have better price/performance in gaming and that's where my next upgrade will really be needed. Need to ditch Phenom II sooner or later.

 

[OVerLoRDI]

Relevant newegg review:

"Just installed in my iphone, works great very fast but does drain the battery a little fast"

 

[nitromullet]

Too bad there is no SB-E equivalent to the i7 920 in terms of price/performance. The 3960X is of course way overpriced (the 'X' always is), the 3930K is still a little steep compared to the 2700K, and the 3920 looks a little questionable as an 'enthusiast' chip with only 4 cores, less cache, and that 43x multiplier. The i7 920 was a full fledged Bloomfield chip, just cheaper.

To put it into perspective, I paid $630 back in 2009 for my current motherboard, CPU, and RAM; which would only get you a 3930K cpu by itself today. Considering the massive increase in price/performance since Nahelam's launch in the mainstream/performance sectors, I sort of see SB-E as a step backwards for the enthusiast sector.

What we need is a 3920K with an unlocked multiplier up to 57x for $300-350 to replace the i7 920.

 

[RussianSensation]

Many people bought the first cheapest intel quad core when it was $800 being the q6600.

Q6600 situation was far worse. Barely 10 months after its release, its price fell to $300 from $851. Are we going to get a 6-core CPU 10 months from now from Intel for $300? No way. So buying a $599 3930K is actually better than buying a Q6600 was back in 2007 for $595 or $851. :thumbsup:

Of course, if you don't need the 2 extra cores, it still represents bad value, but if you do want more cores, then it's arguably one of the better priced enthusiasts CPUs in a long-time. Given that IVB-E likely won't launch for a while and AMD is totally a no-show on the high-end, Haswell still being neutered to a quad-core on 1150, it'll probably be a solid 2.5-3 years before Intel sells us a 6-core CPU for $300.

Certainly a $600 6-core SB is a lot better than a $1000 990X. So at least there is some progress still happening, albeit at a much slower pace than expected.

Lack of native USB 3.0, limited # of SATA 3 ports, and lack of PCIe 3.0 lanes on the CPU, cheapest 8-dimm boards starting at $300, well now those are bigger gripes for me. I remember Gigabyte sold an excellent X58 board for about $200-225. The CPU itself is as expected.

The 3960X model, now that one I don't get at all for enthusiasts. At overclocked speeds, the extra cache barely makes any difference vs. the 3930.

$900 for a CPU + high-end MB is not a huge amount. Folks pay way more than this to get a custom rig from someone like Alienware, that is still slower.
I paid $300 + $300 to get into the X58 at launch and didn't regret that at all.

I think the 3930K is really not that bad. If prices comes down to $555, it'll be 76% more expensive over the 2600k but offer 50% more cores. Of course if you take MicroCenter combo deals on the 2600k, then ya, the value equation is diminished greatly. Still, it's not like the Pentium 4/D EE editions that commanded huge price premiums but were slow as molasses 5 years later. I doubt 3930K will be that slow in 5 years.

I think it's great there are early adopters like you that help Intel reap even larger profits and reinvest that $ into newer processor architectures that eventually will trickle down to the rest of the population at more affordable prices. There is nothing wrong with someone buying a $1000-2000 CPU if they can afford it/want it.

However, part of the fun to me is buying cheaper parts and overclocking them to make them faster. I think buying a $300 CPU and overclocking it to reach a $1000 one is part of the fun. The problem is, Intel doesn't sell us a 6-core $300 CPU at the moment. But if they did sell a 3925 6-core for $300, I'd buy that over the 3960 even if I could easily afford the 3960 I just like the general idea of taking an 'underdog' and making it better. Like taking a 4 cylinder engine and smoking a V8, or having a twin-turbo V8 that smokes a 12 cylinder, etc.