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Zap

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Anyone else looking forward to these?

Intel link

Core i5-2537M
Core i7-2617M
Core i7-2657M

All of these are 2 core, 4 thread chips with 17W TDP. Remember now that the TDP includes the Northbridge and IGP.

Differences that I can see are the Turbo mode of the graphics is 900/950/1000MHz, the CPU base clock is 1.4/1.5/1.6GHz and the CPU Turbo mode is 2.3/2.6/2.7GHz.

Looks like the real difference with the Core i5 is the lower Turbo mode and less cache (3MB versus 4MB of the Core i7).

Why am I excited? Well, all the mobile Sandy Bridge cores get 12EUs (12 graphic cores) versus the majority of them getting 6 in the desktop chips. In AnandTech's mobile review:
performance is typically high enough to handle minimum to medium detail levels. Average frame rates on Sandy Bridge across the 20 test titles ends up at 41FPS. That works out to a 128% improvement over the previous Intel HD Graphics, and a 136% lead over AMD’s HD 4250.
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So, twice as fast as AMD's vaunted IGP? Not too shabby!

So, here's my 2011 dream notebook:

Core i7-2657
4GB+ RAM
big SSD (128GB or more)
12"-ish LED backlit LCD (make it decent quality and non-glossy plz)
latest WiFi/Bluetooth/USB/eSATA/HDMI
decent KB and multitouch mousepad
no ODD
real world 8+ hour non-gaming battery life for under 3 pound weight
slim and nice looking (wait, are we still talking about notebook computers?) and not flimsy or chintzy
notebook sleeve with handle that fits exactly
under $1000

Think my dream can become a reality? The price is not too bad if you consider the CPU's cost from Intel is $317, plus a 128GB SSD (or bigger). As long as it didn't have any glaring faults, if such a notebook came out, I would sell off all FIVE of my current notebooks and buy this one. :wub:
 
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aceshigh23

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How soon until we see one of these Sandy Bridge ULVs in a slate? I was disappointed to find out that the Asus ep121 isn't going to use Sandy Bridge.
 
gorobei

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i'm hoping HP is already on this with the touchsmart tm2t successor. SB eu's look like they may be good enough to skip the amd 5450 graphics option. the tm2t came out around feb/mar last year.

im really hoping for the 9hr @2d battery life the su9300 tm2 was able to pull off.

the crappy part is ivybridge looks even better on graphics and power.
 
IntelUser2000

IntelUser2000

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Zap said:
So, twice as fast as AMD's vaunted IGP? Not too shabby!
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I'm not sure it'll be twice as fast because the Graphics Turbo modes are not only much lower for max but for lowest as well. I think it'll end up like a 6EU version with full Turbo speeds. It's very tempting to get a ULV Core i7 2657M based ultraportable though. And I'll pay the price.

Integrated graphics, 11.6-inch screen Corre i7 2657M with say a 70-90WHr battery would last FOREVER!
 
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aceO07

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I want to see if the next version of the Thinkpad tablets will have Sandy Bridge. It's going to be an expensive year if the new tablet is nice and the new Intel SSD is good..
 
Bateluer

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Not too shabby. Not sure if those SB notebooks will come in under the 500 dollar mark though. :/
 
Husky55

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@zap, thanks for all the great info. I am pretty sure you will get you dream laptop this year for under $1000 !!!

I have a new HP dv7tqe with the new SB 2630M which has the Intel design flaw of the SATA 2 Southbridge. Sata3 is OK. HP is extending our return/replacement up to april 30, 2011. Apparently Intel is having the new chipset to the OEM at the end of this month.

I think the release of the new laptops with the SB core2 will be delayed no more than a couple weeks at the most.
 
Away

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The decent quality screen would be my only worry. Damn crappy TN panels.
 
ericlp

ericlp

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nice but as long as were dreaming...

Make it Quiet and Cool and sipping watts to boot! I really hate HEAT and loud cooling fans that suck batteries dry.
 
Zap

Zap

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Zap said:
So, here's my 2011 dream notebook:

Core i7-2657
4GB+ RAM
big SSD (128GB or more)
12"-ish LED backlit LCD (make it decent quality and non-glossy plz)
latest WiFi/Bluetooth/USB/eSATA/HDMI
decent KB and multitouch mousepad
no ODD
real world 8+ hour non-gaming battery life for under 3 pound weight
slim and nice looking (wait, are we still talking about notebook computers?) and not flimsy or chintzy
notebook sleeve with handle that fits exactly
under $1000
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Okay, we're really close to this... from another thread here...
Lenovo posts ThinkPad X220 specs online

CPUs are dual core non-ULV Sandy Bridge only, but that might be fine performance-wise plus still can get dual digit hours of battery life
up to 8GB DDR-1333 RAM
up to 160GB Intel SSD (not as fast as latest/greatest, but really solid nonetheless plus can start with a HDD and upgrade ourselves)
12.5" LED backlit IPS screen OMFG!!! (unknown cost adder)
claims 15 hour battery life on standard 9 cell battery at under 3 pounds!

Only questions are when and at what price.

Okay, there are other questions, such as when will we see similar models with the ULV CPUs? How about a 2.5 pound version with 10 hour 6-cell battery and thinner profile?
 
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ArchAngel777

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I travel frequently for my job and I think mini laptops are overrated. I bought a 13.3" UL30VT. It has incredable battery life, in addition to two battiers. I never end up using the spare battery (even when gaming). Also when you get back to the hotel and relax, the screen is just to small.

I can't imagine using a 12", that would suck IMO.

On the other hand, I can see a huge use for tablets, especially something like the 7" Galaxy. That would actually have more use, asside from the fact that I could not really play a 3d game (good one that is).

Just my opinion, but after seeking and spending so much time finding a 'portable' laptop, I found it to be underwhelming overall, despite the incredable battery life.
 
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Zap

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Lenovo ThinkPad X220 Review

So far so good. I'll list what stuck in my mind after reading the review.

GOOD
Battery life in "real world" use got almost 9 hours out of a 6 cell battery - that's similar to the best netbooks.
The IPS screen.
Options of decent SSDs.
Keyboard is full sized and very normal.
Optional battery bumped battery life to almost 20 hours!!!
Slightly ruggedized for durability.

BAD
Weight is 3.5 pounds with 6 cell battery, not "under 3 pounds with 9 cell" as we were led to believe.
Not using the ULV versions of the CPUs.
Not using true quad core CPUs.
Cost is $900 for base model with TN screen and HDD.
Some concerns/complaints on the buttonless touch pad.
Optional battery bumped weight almost to 5 pounds.

ArchAngel777 said:
I can't imagine using a 12", that would suck IMO.
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All depends... I would not use something with a screen that small if it were my only computer. However, for portable use as a secondary computer I value portability and battery life. I love the form factor of my Dell Latitude 13, but battery life leaves something to be desired.
 
IntelUser2000

IntelUser2000

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Zap said:
Not using the ULV versions of the CPUs.
Not using true quad core CPUs.
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Aren't those two negatives in conflict with each other?

I don't think we have to worry about battery life on the Sandy Bridge models.

Okay, there are other questions, such as when will we see similar models with the ULV CPUs? How about a 2.5 pound version with 10 hour 6-cell battery and thinner profile?
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Yes please. :)

Oh, add a rotating/sliding screen so I can go from having a Notebook and be able to fit in with the Tablet craze.
 
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