Sandy Bridge E starts at $294 (FUD)

[happy medium]

Quote:
Sandy Bridge E is going to launch in Q4 2011 and we got some latest price and specs of these three new CPUs. Let’s start from the cheapest one.

Core i7 3820 is a quad-core version with eight tread support that works at 3.6GHz and supports turbo overclocking. It comes with 10MB of cache and LGA2011 socket. It will be the cheapest Sandy Bridge E and will sell for $294 but it comes locked and probably won’t be that great for overclocking.

The second in line is $583 priced Core i7 3930K, as K stands for overclocking, you can expect an unlocked processor. This K letter and two additional cores will cost you almost 100 percent more from i7 3920. This is a six core with twelve treads processor, clocked at 3.2GHz but with turbo it can go much higher. It has 12MB cache and supports X79 and LGA2011 socket. Price of an unlocked processor in Sandy Bridge E world is quite high.

The most expensive is Core i7 3960X and this one will sell for standard $999. This CPU and the rest of the platform comes as a replacement of long overdue Core i7 990X a six core, twelve treads 3.46GHz clocked LGA 1366 processor, that will end up slower than Core i7 3960X clocked at 3.3GHz.

Core i7 3960X extreme expensive edition and the other two LGA2011 processors will ship in Q4 2011, but we still don’t have better date than that. "



http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/24222-sandy-bridge-e-starts-at-$294

So the lowest priced Sandy-E will be at 8150 BD price?
Must be a good performer.

 

[classy]

Quote:
Sandy Bridge E is going to launch in Q4 2011 and we got some latest price and specs of these three new CPUs. Let’s start from the cheapest one.

Core i7 3820 is a quad-core version with eight tread support that works at 3.6GHz and supports turbo overclocking. It comes with 10MB of cache and LGA2011 socket. It will be the cheapest Sandy Bridge E and will sell for $294 but it comes locked and probably won’t be that great for overclocking.

The second in line is $583 priced Core i7 3930K, as K stands for overclocking, you can expect an unlocked processor. This K letter and two additional cores will cost you almost 100 percent more from i7 3920. This is a six core with twelve treads processor, clocked at 3.2GHz but with turbo it can go much higher. It has 12MB cache and supports X79 and LGA2011 socket. Price of an unlocked processor in Sandy Bridge E world is quite high.

The most expensive is Core i7 3960X and this one will sell for standard $999. This CPU and the rest of the platform comes as a replacement of long overdue Core i7 990X a six core, twelve treads 3.46GHz clocked LGA 1366 processor, that will end up slower than Core i7 3960X clocked at 3.3GHz.

Core i7 3960X extreme expensive edition and the other two LGA2011 processors will ship in Q4 2011, but we still don’t have better date than that. "



http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/24222-sandy-bridge-e-starts-at-$294

So the lowest priced Sandy-E will be at 8150 BD price?
Must be a good performer.

Which one is a good performer, the 8150 or the Sandy Bridge E? So Sandy E needs a new socket?

 

[zlejedi]

We knew those price points for few weeks already.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Quote:
Sandy Bridge E is going to launch in Q4 2011 and we got some latest price and specs of these three new CPUs. Let’s start from the cheapest one.

Core i7 3820 is a quad-core version with eight tread support that works at 3.6GHz and supports turbo overclocking. It comes with 10MB of cache and LGA2011 socket. It will be the cheapest Sandy Bridge E and will sell for $294 but it comes locked and probably won’t be that great for overclocking.

The second in line is $583 priced Core i7 3930K, as K stands for overclocking, you can expect an unlocked processor. This K letter and two additional cores will cost you almost 100 percent more from i7 3920. This is a six core with twelve treads processor, clocked at 3.2GHz but with turbo it can go much higher. It has 12MB cache and supports X79 and LGA2011 socket. Price of an unlocked processor in Sandy Bridge E world is quite high.

The most expensive is Core i7 3960X and this one will sell for standard $999. This CPU and the rest of the platform comes as a replacement of long overdue Core i7 990X a six core, twelve treads 3.46GHz clocked LGA 1366 processor, that will end up slower than Core i7 3960X clocked at 3.3GHz.

Core i7 3960X extreme expensive edition and the other two LGA2011 processors will ship in Q4 2011, but we still don’t have better date than that. "



http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/24222-sandy-bridge-e-starts-at-$294

So the lowest priced Sandy-E will be at 8150 BD price?
Must be a good performer.

Doesn't everything point to the FX-8150 costing $250-275? Not quite the same price, to be honest. Not that I expect it to be, anyway. The FX-8150 will very probably be slower overall than the 2600K, and at the same clock speed the 3820 should be less than 1% faster than the i7-2600K, so not much to look at here apart from the Six-Core chips.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Why is this 3820 cheaper than the non-K edition 2600?

 

[sm625]

The i7-3820 must be a litmus test for retards. In no way should a locked i7-3820 be faster than an unlocked and even mildly overclocked 2600k with stock cooling. I bet even the 2500k overclocked with a $30 cooler will wipe the floor with the i7-3820, maybe even in cinebench?

But you can bet intel will sell at least 20,000 i7-3820s.

 

[Ika]

Yeah, seems like the $294 3820 is a bad alternative to 2500k/2600k, and the $583 3930k is too much, especially for another socket from Intel. They must be making a killing from selling new motherboards every time they release a new CPU line.

 

[Arachnotronic]

The i7-3820 must be a litmus test for retards. In no way should a locked i7-3820 be faster than an unlocked and even mildly overclocked 2600k with stock cooling. I bet even the 2500k overclocked with a $30 cooler will wipe the floor with the i7-3820, maybe even in cinebench?

But you can bet intel will sell at least 20,000 i7-3820s.

Uh, no. The 3820 will have pretty decent overclocking options. The turbo multipliers + BCLK adjustments. Couple that with the much beefier memory interface, larger cache, better platform upgrade path, and a more quality platform, and you've got a compelling platform.

Also, not everyone overclocks...

I think I'll be getting a SNB-E -- just not sure of what variety (3820 or 3930K).

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Why is this 3820 cheaper than the non-K edition 2600?

Because it has a locked multiplier. It does allow for much better BCLK overclocking than the 2600, though, so at least it's not horrible in that regard. Also, remember that Sandy Bridge-E is the same architecture as Sandy Bridge. It's not gonna be any faster than the 2600(K) at the same clock speed, plus you have a much more expensive platform.

The i7-3820 must be a litmus test for retards. In no way should a locked i7-3820 be faster than an unlocked and even mildly overclocked 2600k with stock cooling. I bet even the 2500k overclocked with a $30 cooler will wipe the floor with the i7-3820, maybe even in cinebench?

But you can bet intel will sell at least 20,000 i7-3820s.

The 3820 can still be OCed, though. Since it's not as integrated as SB, you have better BCLK overclocking and can push higher than 4GHz. The 2500K wouldn't be faster if the 3820 can push the same overclocks.

Yeah, seems like the $294 3820 is a bad alternative to 2500k/2600k, and the $583 3930k is too much, especially for another socket from Intel. They must be making a killing from selling new motherboards every time they release a new CPU line.

I think the 3930K is fine. You're getting two more cores and because of that it's 40% faster than the 2600K in heavily multi-threaded workloads and the same speed in single-threaded. Same as i7-880 vs i7-980X. If you have highly multi-threaded workloads, it's worth the added cost. What I don't understand is the stupid 3960X, but I won't rant about that here.

Uh, no. The 3820 will have pretty decent overclocking options. The turbo multipliers + BCLK adjustments. Couple that with the much beefier memory interface, larger cache, better platform upgrade path, and a more quality platform, and you've got a compelling platform.

Also, not everyone overclocks...

I think I'll be getting a SNB-E -- just not sure of what variety (3820 or 3930K).

You do know those I bolded out won't give you more performance on desktop workloads, right? As for platform upgrades, if the Eight-Core IB-E that's rumored will exist, then the upgrade path is better. Ivy Bridge will only bring an IPC improvement of 5% or so, according to Tom's Hardware.

 

[Edrick]

The i7-3820 must be a litmus test for retards. In no way should a locked i7-3820 be faster than an unlocked and even mildly overclocked 2600k with stock cooling. I bet even the 2500k overclocked with a $30 cooler will wipe the floor with the i7-3820, maybe even in cinebench?

But you can bet intel will sell at least 20,000 i7-3820s.

Yea, all us retards who actually understand the platform and actually read the specs released. Since the 3820 will allow for BCLK overclocking, just like all the previous nehalam/westmere products, it should overclock just fine. And it may not even have the limitation that SB 1155 has (52x).

So great job making a post that shows how much you understand.

 

[Edrick]

Uh, no. The 3820 will have pretty decent overclocking options. The turbo multipliers + BCLK adjustments. Couple that with the much beefier memory interface, larger cache, better platform upgrade path, and a more quality platform, and you've got a compelling platform.

Maybe you should bold this and sticky it somewhere so that the same people will stop making posts claiming the opposite.

 

[Edrick]

You do know those I bolded out won't give you more performance on desktop workloads, right? As for platform upgrades, if the Eight-Core IB-E that's rumored will exist, then the upgrade path is better. Ivy Bridge will only bring an IPC improvement of 5% or so, according to Tom's Hardware.

So for the same price, if you had the choice of more cache and more memory bandwidth, you wouldn't take it? You keep saying how it will not make much difference, but the prices are in the same range now (quad for quad). Granted it may not be worth hundreds more, but that is not the case.

 

[Wizlem]

What I don't understand is the stupid 3960X, but I won't rant about that here.

What you don't understand is some people need the fastest computer possible but are unable to overclock. I just built a computer for work that controls some automation and processes large amounts of data. If I overclock, I'm going to look pretty bad if anything fails regardless of if the overclock would be the cause. Also if its like the 980x vs the other six cores released it will have a couple other specs higher (like QPI for the 980x).

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

So for the same price, if you had the choice of more cache and more memory bandwidth, you wouldn't take it? You keep saying how it will not make much difference, but the prices are in the same range now (quad for quad). Granted it may not be worth hundreds more, but that is not the case.

Not with the higher platform costs, no. Why would I want performance "improvements" that are statistically insignificant like 0.5% faster? Even then, anything 1% or under is under a margin of error. I personally wouldn't want that it if means I have to spend $50-75 more to get a comparable motherboard, which is what will happen.

The only one I think makes any sense for enthusiasts is the 3930K, again.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

What you don't understand is some people need the fastest computer possible but are unable to overclock. I just built a computer for work that controls some automation and processes large amounts of data. If I overclock, I'm going to look pretty bad if anything fails regardless of if the overclock would be the cause. Also if its like the 980x vs the other six cores released it will have a couple other specs higher (like QPI for the 980x).

Already mentioned that in an earlier thread I made. If you're using it for work, it's up to you (or them if it's a business/enterprise) to see if the 2-3% higher speed stock is worth it. I'm referring to enthusiasts.

 

[Edrick]

I personally wouldn't want that it if means I have to spend $50-75 more to get a comparable motherboard, which is what will happen.

$50 - $75 for a higher end platform that does have more options/features is really short money. To me its a no brainer, especially when the CPUs and RAM will be the same price. But I guess to some people it may make a difference.

 

[imaheadcase]

I actually like the $583 3930k. Given IB is 6+ months away, and not even that big of a upgrade, that chip + overclock will go a long way even at that price point.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

$50 - $75 for a higher end platform that does have more options/features is really short money. To me its a no brainer, especially when the CPUs and RAM will be the same price. But I guess to some people it may make a difference.

If you're not spending $600-1000 on a CPU now, I doubt you'd do it in a year. I know you may make the argument that you can sell it by then for $250, but if it's over-volted I wouldn't do it because it degrades the CPU more than normal. If you have the same amount of money to spend in a year, you'd be buying a Quad-Core again and getting 5% higher IPC, which is what Ivy Bridge will give you anyway. That, and there's very little that differentiates P67 and X79. SB-E will not support PCIe 3.0, and the number of SATA interfaces allowed was reduced from the original.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

I actually like the $583 3930k. Given IB is 6+ months away, and not even that big of a upgrade, that chip + overclock will go a long way even at that price point.

It's kinda like the Core i7-980 and 990X now, except they take turns and the 3930K gets an unlocked multiplier but a bit less cache (but again, that won't make a difference in desktop workloads given it has 2MB L3/core).

 

[Edrick]

If you're not spending $600-1000 on a CPU now, I doubt you'd do it in a year. If you have the same amount of money to spend in a year, you'd be buying a Quad-Core again and getting 5% higher IPC, which is what Ivy Bridge will give you anyway. That, and there's very little that differentiates P67 and X79. SB-E will not support PCIe 3.0, and the number of SATA interfaces allowed was reduced from the original.

For people coming from the x58 platform, it make more sense to go to x79. For people coming from P67, it does not make as much sense to go to x79. (Even though I will be doing just that.)

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

For people coming from the x58 platform, it make more sense to go to x79. For people coming from P67, it does not make as much sense to go to x79. (Even though I will be doing just that.)

I guess it depends. If they need RAID controllers, Three GPUs and/or tons of SATA ports, then going from X58 to X79 makes sense. For those there's still NF200, though, but given the motherboard costs by then it'd be a wash deciding between both.

 

[Edrick]

I guess it depends. If they need RAID controllers, Tr-GPUs and/or tons of SATA ports, then going from X58 to X79 makes sense. For those there's still NF200, though, though given the motherboard costs by then it'd be a wash deciding between both.

You know what will upset me is if I buy a x79 system when it is released and then they release a new x79 platform that has all the features they promised (that were left out of the initial release), within a few months.

 

[zlejedi]

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/09/20/how-to-overclock-sandy-bridge-e/1

some people should read this.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

You know what will upset me is if I buy a x79 system when it is released and then they release a new x79 platform that has all the features they promised (that were left out of the initial release), within a few months.

They'd need to do a pretty major revision and would piss of a lot of people, so I doubt it.

 

[Edrick]

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/09/20/how-to-overclock-sandy-bridge-e/1

some people should read this.

I like that article. A little confusing without actually having a system in front of me, but Im sure it will be easy once we have our hands on it.