Sandy Berger to be CONVICTED of document theft

[alchemize]

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Please read the linked thread for lots of giggles Silence from the left, especially the OP, will be quite deafening

Foot, meet mouth!

It's nice to be a neocon and be right about something every now and then!

 

[BigJelly]

I might be the only one that posts--usually stuff like this disappears from lack of posts (as you said)

Wow you think all the people that said that it was a witch hunt going to eat humble pie or just do as they always do and ignore it and hope it goes away?

 

[alchemize]

I expect to be deafened by silence or by tap dancing

 

[Gaard]

Berger and his lawyer, Lanny Breuer, have said Berger knowingly removed the handwritten notes by placing them in his jacket and pants and inadvertently took copies of actual classified documents in a leather portfolio. He returned most of the documents, but some still are missing.

WTF?

Could he possibly be pleading guilty to this misdemeanor in order to get away with something more serious? (Would destroying these documents be "more serious"?)

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Story Link


Please read the linked thread for lots of giggles Silence from the left, especially the OP, will be quite deafening

Foot, meet mouth!

It's nice to be a neocon and be right about something every now and then!

Whoppie

Hmmm did he start a false War???

 

[Sysbuilder05]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Story Link


Please read the linked thread for lots of giggles Silence from the left, especially the OP, will be quite deafening

Foot, meet mouth!

It's nice to be a neocon and be right about something every now and then!

Its OK with me and I'm a Dem. Fine him,throw his ass in jail,works for me. Now with Berger going down where the HELL is Ken Lay??

 

[Aegeon]

Originally posted by: BigJelly
Wow you think all the people that said that it was a witch hunt going to eat humble pie or just do as they always do and ignore it and hope it goes away?

Actually it depends in what sense you're talking about. Berger is apparently just pleading guilty to the act of removing the documents, but still maintains it was accidental. I have not seen any support to the claim he was stuffing documents in his socks. Its worth noting that if the government had strong evidence he deliberately destroyed the documents and possibly did so as part of a conspiracy, they wouldn't let him plea down to just a single misdemeanor charge.

 

[arsbanned]

Wow. You finally got one.A single misdemeanor charge. Nice work! I can't wait until all the facts surrounding the current admins crimes come out.

 

[DealMonkey]

Well, I guess if you do the crime, do the time. Or something. What do you suppose the Berger was up to exactly? Do you suppose he was trying to hide something, or is he just a scatter-brained old man?

 

[jackschmittusa]

FARK had the great tagline for the story: Ex Clinton adviser admits to stuffing documents down his pants but maintains he did not have sexual relations with them

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Well, I guess if you do the crime, do the time. Or something. What do you suppose the Berger was up to exactly? Do you suppose he was trying to hide something, or is he just a scatter-brained old man?

Or money / fame-hungry if he planned to use the documents to aid something like a book, pundit position, ... ?

One benefit of being independent is that I'm not forced by party loyalty to defend the weasels and scum of either party. It's always a little sad to see partisans trying to justify or even just ignore unethical behavior like this.

 

[NightTrain]

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
FARK had the great tagline for the story: Ex Clinton adviser admits to stuffing documents down his pants but maintains he did not have sexual relations with them

:laugh:

 

[TRUMPHENT]

Originally posted by: alchemize

Story Link


Please read the linked thread for lots of giggles Silence from the left, especially the OP, will be quite deafening

Foot, meet mouth!

It's nice to be a neocon and be right about something every now and then!

You are absolutely correct about the NeOcons being wrong in catastrophic porportions.

Here is the official confirmation that the various socalled thinktanks of the NeOcon persuasion got it wrong as wrong can be.
It's Official!

 

[Pandaren]

If he did something illegal, then I've no problem with him being punished.

And in other news, Libertarians like me still think you and the Republican Party are a festering trasheap in decline.

Originally posted by: alchemize
Please read the linked thread for lots of giggles Silence from the left, especially the OP, will be quite deafening

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Berger and his lawyer, Lanny Breuer, have said Berger knowingly removed the handwritten notes by placing them in his jacket and pants and inadvertently took copies of actual classified documents in a leather portfolio. He returned most of the documents, but some still are missing.

WTF?

Could he possibly be pleading guilty to this misdemeanor in order to get away with something more serious? (Would destroying these documents be "more serious"?)

Destroying evidence to cover crimes is called obstruction of justice. If he destroyed the documents improperly (or just put them in his trash at home), that could lead to disclosure of the information, which could be exceptionally grave.

So, yes, it could have been more serious.

 

[Red Dawn]

He's not above the law and should be punished for what he did!

 

[conjur]

What a dumbass. But, at least he's admitting his behaviour.

Too bad the same can't be said of the NUMEROUS criminals in the Propagandist's administration including the Propagandist, himself.

 

[Zebo]

I never liked the Clinton Administration either. That bitch Reno should be in the Electric Chair. It's funny to see you guys comparing whos the least ethical and moral out of the pregressivly worst people to ever run this country. They should'nt even be allowed to run a PTA meeting let alone USA.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: conjur
What a dumbass. But, at least he's admitting his behaviour.

Too bad the same can't be said of the NUMEROUS criminals in the Propagandist's administration including the Propagandist, himself.

Rather than the "honest mistake" he described last summer, Berger acknowledged to U.S. Magistrate Deborah Robinson that he intentionally took and deliberately destroyed three copies of the same document dealing with terror threats during the 2000 millennium celebration. He then lied about it to Archives staff when they told him documents were missing.


CsG

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
What a dumbass. But, at least he's admitting his behaviour.

Too bad the same can't be said of the NUMEROUS criminals in the Propagandist's administration including the Propagandist, himself.

Rather than the "honest mistake" he described last summer, Berger acknowledged to U.S. Magistrate Deborah Robinson that he intentionally took and deliberately destroyed three copies of the same document dealing with terror threats during the 2000 millennium celebration. He then lied about it to Archives staff when they told him documents were missing.


CsG

Apparently the three documents he destroyed were three copies of a report by Richard Clarke summing up the threat of terrorism in the U.S. The copies were circulated to three members of Clinton's White House, and according to what I've read, had handwritten notes on each. I'd be interested to know who received those three memos, and just what was written on them - especially since Berger turned down multiple attempts to go after bin Laden pre-9/11.

 

[alchemize]

Well I suspected this thread would die I'll leave a closing thought. Just imagine for one minute - if C. Rice had been accussed of such a thing. How many threads would we have seen by now? I imagine the pope would be page 2 news.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: alchemize
Well I suspected this thread would die I'll leave a closing thought. Just imagine for one minute - if C. Rice had been accussed of such a thing. How many threads would we have seen by now? I imagine the pope would be page 2 news.

That's because if Condi did it, she'd be denying it. Bush & Co. would raise the terror alert level or stage some other distraction, and the bleating Bushies here would be spinning and duhverting and distorting to disrupt the ensuing discussion. In this case, however, when the shoe's on the other foot, the prevailing attitude seems to be acceptance: if he broke the law, even accidentally as claimed, he should be punished. What's the problem?

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Personally, they shouldn't have allowed him to plead down to a misdemeanor. He should go to jail. I hope the lying, treasonous ilk in the Bush administration take the same route.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: X-Man

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
What a dumbass. But, at least he's admitting his behaviour.

Too bad the same can't be said of the NUMEROUS criminals in the Propagandist's administration including the Propagandist, himself.

Rather than the "honest mistake" he described last summer, Berger acknowledged to U.S. Magistrate Deborah Robinson that he intentionally took and deliberately destroyed three copies of the same document dealing with terror threats during the 2000 millennium celebration. He then lied about it to Archives staff when they told him documents were missing.


CsG

Apparently the three documents he destroyed were three copies of a report by Richard Clarke summing up the threat of terrorism in the U.S. The copies were circulated to three members of Clinton's White House, and according to what I've read, had handwritten notes on each. I'd be interested to know who received those three memos, and just what was written on them - especially since Berger turned down multiple attempts to go after bin Laden pre-9/11.

I'd be interested in knowing about them and the notes too, but sadly we will never know that information from the looks of it. Was he put up to it? Who knows... and again we probably won't ever know...

CsG

 

[alchemize]

Just curious - did all the bush-haters get together to share notes? Here's what I'm envisioning...

"We suggest you ignore the thread. But if you must, my leftist friends, then standard responses should include the following:
1) Mention something about he should be punished. Don't say a word about it being a slap on the wrist.
2) Follow up with saying how crooked the Bush admin is. Don't mention that anyone isn't being charged with any kind of remotely similar crime.
3) Don't say anything, ANYTHING, about how his crimes have quite possibly tainted the results of the 9/11 commission. After all, we posted long and hard to try to pin this on Bush."