San Francisco values-How will they affect the nation?

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
A gay parade?!?

No, that's the one in Washington with all of the Republican congressman and staffers leaving town.

:laugh: Nice one!

 

[Vic]

What I'm curious about is how changing Section 404 of Sarbanes-Oxley has anything to with SF values.... unless it's those Silicon Valley corps that want to go back to lying about their financial again. But nah, that couldn't be it... SF values are supposed to be anti-corporate.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Not to mention, as much as people love to hate SF, it is the most popular city to visit in the US. Ask yourself why.

Indeed, visit being the key word.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: senseamp
Not to mention, as much as people love to hate SF, it is the most popular city to visit in the US. Ask yourself why.

Indeed, visit being the key word.

Kinda like "flyover" being the key word where your from eh?

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: quikah

? Pelosi won 80% of the vote in her district. I wish I was that unpopular...

I guess "here" means the couple of streets in your neighborhood?

Yes, the majority of american (*gasp* even San Franciscans) are moderate and did vote for Pelosi, I am saying in the activist community of SF. (Which is the big thing people are afraid of I assume when people talk of "San Francisco Values")

Moonbean is pretty dead on though saying SF the city itself is pretty tame, we lost our "kook city" feel in the 90's through gentrification and yuppie dot-com boom overrun.

Still some bohemein types holed up, but most have been driven off by skyrocketing housing costs.

Steeple! you're from SF?! gee, I never would have guessed!...lol.

Pelosi is the worst thing that could happen to the Democrat Party. They really dropped the ball in letting her take the reigns... I'm still going to give them a chance to prove that they can do everything "better," but with her as the driver in the House, they're going to need a serious dose of luck..

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: quikah

? Pelosi won 80% of the vote in her district. I wish I was that unpopular...

I guess "here" means the couple of streets in your neighborhood?

Yes, the majority of american (*gasp* even San Franciscans) are moderate and did vote for Pelosi, I am saying in the activist community of SF. (Which is the big thing people are afraid of I assume when people talk of "San Francisco Values")

Moonbean is pretty dead on though saying SF the city itself is pretty tame, we lost our "kook city" feel in the 90's through gentrification and yuppie dot-com boom overrun.

Still some bohemein types holed up, but most have been driven off by skyrocketing housing costs.

Steeple! you're from SF?! gee, I never would have guessed!...lol.

Pelosi is the worst thing that could happen to the Democrat Party. They really dropped the ball in letting her take the reigns... I'm still going to give them a chance to prove that they can do everything "better," but with her as the driver in the House, they're going to need a serious dose of luck..

Care to point out a few reasons why? Call me curious.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: quikah

? Pelosi won 80% of the vote in her district. I wish I was that unpopular...

I guess "here" means the couple of streets in your neighborhood?

Yes, the majority of american (*gasp* even San Franciscans) are moderate and did vote for Pelosi, I am saying in the activist community of SF. (Which is the big thing people are afraid of I assume when people talk of "San Francisco Values")

Moonbean is pretty dead on though saying SF the city itself is pretty tame, we lost our "kook city" feel in the 90's through gentrification and yuppie dot-com boom overrun.

Still some bohemein types holed up, but most have been driven off by skyrocketing housing costs.

Steeple! you're from SF?! gee, I never would have guessed!...lol.

Pelosi is the worst thing that could happen to the Democrat Party. They really dropped the ball in letting her take the reigns... I'm still going to give them a chance to prove that they can do everything "better," but with her as the driver in the House, they're going to need a serious dose of luck..

Care to point out a few reasons why? Call me curious.

oh, come on Ms. (mr?) Curious, I've called you worse things than that before!

I'll reply tomorrow when I wake up with the longggg list of cons that Pelosi has working against her.... it's bedtime now for us right-coasters.

g'night.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Instead of helping to pay for a new stadium for the Giants or 49ers which would bring in millions in revenues and rejuvenate rundown areas, they'd rather spend it on that...

Actually I was one of the people who happily voted that stupid stadium down,

This tiny little penensuila has no room for all the people who want to live here much less room for some huge stadium and all the parking for horde of suburbanites, it's simple geography.

NYC is the same way.

The stadium was a scam anyhow, if the NFL wants a stadium they can pay for it themselves, we have plenty of reason for tourists to come here.

And the LAST thing we need is more yuppies coming in and driving out more working class people to turn San Francisco into some scenic suburban carpark.


This was exactly what our mayor was trying to do at the time with his real estate old boys club, very glad he was stopped although the face of the city has been changed forever by god-awful looking crackerbox live work lofts.

They consumed whole historic neighborhoods of families and working class San Franciscans households for yuppie crash pads noone can afford the rent for now.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
And the LAST thing we need is more yuppies coming in and driving out more working class people to turn San Francisco into some scenic suburban carpark.

so wait, let me get this straight: the city of SF, known for its open-mindedness and free-spirited atmosphere, is going to be be prejudicial towards "yuppies"!? you mean those nasty educated folk who like to wear ties and take showers? those damn "normal" bastards are going to ruin your neighborhoods?! lol.. wow... irony.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
And the LAST thing we need is more yuppies coming in and driving out more working class people to turn San Francisco into some scenic suburban carpark.

so wait, let me get this straight: the city of SF, known for its open-mindedness and free-spirited atmosphere, is going to be be prejudicial towards "yuppies"!? you mean those nasty educated folk who like to wear ties and take showers? those damn "normal" bastards are going to ruin your neighborhoods?! lol.. wow... irony.

Yes, we have a limited amount of space, anything you build here you uproot many many people, plenty of room in the east bay, and we already have stadiums for NFL teams all over the bay area.

Gentrification is what it is called and it a self-consuming scam for developers to get rich quick by getting trendy folks to move in to high rent places killing the whole reason for the place being trendy by driving out the locals.

Now you have whole areas of ugly overpriced newer buildings that dont even flow with the city noone can afford.

 

[Craig234]

The values of SF would do the nation a huge amount of good. The right-wingers here would have scoffed at the 'progressives' a century ago, the 'FDR values', the 60's values of the civil rights movement, new freedoms, medicare, and the war on poverty - they are the menace to the nation.

SF values would see people more prosperous and more free and the nation a moral place off the republican road to ruin. Sorry, they won't make America into Texas or Arkansas.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: ntdz
I for one am totally looking forward to everyone on the government's payroll being able to get a sex change operation for free...those are the San Francisco values I love. Instead of helping to pay for a new stadium for the Giants or 49ers which would bring in millions in revenues and rejuvenate rundown areas, they'd rather spend it on that...

What's wrong with PacBell Park? Looks pretty new to me.

It was financed 100% by the Giants, the city of San Fran refused to pay a dime for it...

 

[nageov3t]

there's also the logistics problem.

I for one was glad when the NYC stadium got voted down... it might have brought in some income for the city, but it would have been a nightmare in terms of traffic congestion and parking, really putting a hurt on the locals.

sometimes there's more to consider than the profits.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: senseamp
Instead of helping to pay for a new stadium for the Giants or 49ers which would bring in millions in revenues and rejuvenate rundown areas, they'd rather spend it on that...

Actually I was one of the people who happily voted that stupid stadium down,

This tiny little penensuila has no room for all the people who want to live here much less room for some huge stadium and all the parking for horde of suburbanites, it's simple geography.

NYC is the same way.

The stadium was a scam anyhow, if the NFL wants a stadium they can pay for it themselves, we have plenty of reason for tourists to come here.

And the LAST thing we need is more yuppies coming in and driving out more working class people to turn San Francisco into some scenic suburban carpark.


This was exactly what our mayor was trying to do at the time with his real estate old boys club, very glad he was stopped although the face of the city has been changed forever by god-awful looking crackerbox live work lofts.

They consumed whole historic neighborhoods of families and working class San Franciscans households for yuppie crash pads noone can afford the rent for now.

Had you been to the area where AT&T Park is before it was built? It was a rundown, piece of ******, worthless area. Now it's one of the best areas of San Fran. The park and surrounding areas are awesome. That park is one of the best things to happen to San Fran in awhile, and you voted against it. You'd rather have sex change operations for everyone who works for the city and a socialist major in power, doesn't suprise me in the least bit. Emos don't like sports anyway, they prefer to drown themselves in their grief about how miserable their lives are and how much they hate normal people.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
A gay parade?!?

With Haggard and Foley as Grand Marshals?

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: ntdz
Emos don't like sports anyway, they prefer to drown themselves in their grief about how miserable their lives are and how much they hate normal people.

Heheh So now he's an Emo eh?

I'm over in Oakland so I didn't vote in this thing, I'm just pissed about probably losing the A's.

I thought you guys were talking about a new park for the Giants though, not voting against PacBell/ATT park? I'm kinda surprised by news of the Giants leaving so you mind throwing some details in on this thing?

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Had you been to the area where AT&T Park is before it was built? It was a rundown, piece of ******, worthless area. Now it's one of the best areas of San Fran. The park and surrounding areas are awesome. That park is one of the best things to happen to San Fran in awhile, and you voted against it. You'd rather have sex change operations for everyone who works for the city and a socialist major in power, doesn't suprise me in the least bit. Emos don't like sports anyway, they prefer to drown themselves in their grief about how miserable their lives are and how much they hate normal people.

Actually, there were much better things to do with the land where pacbell park is before the sleazebag mayor screwed us and made it a ballpark when we have candlestick park (Monster Park) right south, and give me a break, I live down the street from the park, and the surrounding area south is still a industrial wasteland full of homeless squatters. You cant even go to jack in the box without homeless pestering you for whatever pennies I have left after trying to scrape by after buying a .99 cent burger.

Ever heard of dogpatch and hunters point? its the worst area of SF still, even worse then the tenderloin.

And idiot, I am not an "emo" I am older then that trend, but since your so up on who is emo, do us a favor, slit your own wrists for us nutz, thanks.

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: ntdz

Had you been to the area where AT&T Park is before it was built? It was a rundown, piece of ******, worthless area. Now it's one of the best areas of San Fran. The park and surrounding areas are awesome. That park is one of the best things to happen to San Fran in awhile, and you voted against it. You'd rather have sex change operations for everyone who works for the city and a socialist major in power, doesn't suprise me in the least bit. Emos don't like sports anyway, they prefer to drown themselves in their grief about how miserable their lives are and how much they hate normal people.

Actually, there were much better things to do with the land where pacbell park is before the sleazebag mayor screwed us and made it a ballpark when we have candlestick park (Monster Park) right south, and give me a break, I live down the street from the park, and the surrounding area south is still a industrial wasteland full of homeless squatters. You cant even go to jack in the box without homeless pestering you for whatever pennies I have left after trying to scrape by after buying a .99 cent burger.

Ever heard of dogpatch and hunters point? its the worst area of SF still, even worse then the tenderloin.

And idiot, I am not an "emo" I am older then that trend, but since your so up on who is emo, do us a favor, slit your own wrists for us nutz, thanks.

Weird, I just interviewed at splunk.com right across from pacbell and a music oriented dot.com in the dogpatch.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: flavio

Weird, I just interviewed at splunk.com right across from pacbell and a music oriented dot.com in the dogpatch.

Like any city, night and day are two different stories.