San Francisco Cop Attacks Man for Recording, Jails him Overnight on No Charges

[Kushina]

cop: xBiff--I order you to strip naked and drink this galon of bleach
xBiff: Yessir. must. comply. must respect. must. yessir.

That about sums up half the people on this forum, but you present it from a different light they call it terrorism

 

[Pipeline 1010]

Except that ISN'T an order. If those are the EXACT words, he is ASKING you to. You're free to say "I'd prefer not to"; if at that point they arrest you, it's a slam dunk in court when you sue them for damages (as long as the damages are reasonable.)

If they say "Can you please leave", you say "No, thanks" and then they say "You are trespassing then" or "Then I'm ordering you to leave" - then that's a different story. But "Can you please leave?" isn't an order, it's a question.

xBiffx already knows this. He is using a common police tactic to keep people confused and compliant...when you can't order them to do something, ask them all authoritatively. If someone believes a request to be an order, they may be tricked into following it. Cops do not care about civil rights, only how to trick people into giving them up. In closing, he's not an idiot, he's an asshole tyrant.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

First for getting angry with the police for enforcing laws instead of lawmakers for the laws they make.

If this argument didn't work at Nuremberg, then why should it work in the land of the free?

And then second, for getting pissed off at me, for simply pointing this out, again instead of the people who make the laws.

The feelings toward you appear to be from your defense of the troglodytes who choose to behave illegally and immorally.

If calling me names and trying to make fun of me makes you all feel better about this situation, great, I'm happy to help.

It's not so much calling you names as it is observing the type of person you choose to behave like.

Well, on to the next fuq da police thread I guess.

Disliking thuggish unnecessary behavior is not a "fuq da police" attitude. Although it is very common for police to want to equate the two. There appears to be a lot in common between your arguments and typical Orwellian police arguments.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Tell that to a judge. Not me. Guarantee that's treated as an order, especially in this situation where the police were responding to a complaint.

hahahahaaaaaa...............that's a cop out......rofl......

 

[JEDIYoda]

I think you need to do a little homework. First of all, a cop can indeed arrest you for not following an order to vacate an area/place. Second, they don't have to charge you with anything and yes, they can arrest you and hold you for up to 72 hours before they have to charge you. <---- not the cop cannot arrest you for failing to vacate a publ;ic place. Private property the cops still must ask you and even then you can I prefer not to...then the cop can sayu on private property that is NOT open to the public..leave or I will arrest you!

The statute in question has a history of case law for situations like this. Where people failed to comply with an order from police even. <-- I feel sorry for your clients if you were a lawyer..all your clients would be severely butt hurt...because are just plain wrong!

Sorry that you think you live in a world (country more specifically) where you think that you get to decide not to follow a lawful order by police. Makes perfect sense to have law enforcement officers that can be ignored whenever they give an order just because you say so. Oh wait...<--- I am sorry but everything a cop says to you is not a lawful order and as such you have right that police try to circumvent that they learn in Academy....yet the courts have stated that everything a Pig says is NOT a lawful order! We do not live in a Police state where ther Police are in charge...Yet...


Like I said, you really need to do your homework. I'm not going to hold my breath, however. But by all means, please go ahead and test your theory that you don't have to comply when a cop tells you to leave somewhere. Let me know how that works out for you.<-- it is really obvious that you have misunderstood your homework and aws such probably will continue to experience a huge amount of butt hurt!!

 

[glenn1]

cop: xBiff--I order you to strip naked and drink this galon of bleach
xBiff: Yessir. must. comply. must respect. must. yessir.

Well, thank goodness we have people like you to ensure drunk loud obnoxious guys in airports will have their rights to bother other airport patrons protected and that the jackboot police pigs won't interfere with his "rights" to do so. Just what those of us who travel often need, thanks for standing up for the "little guy." You really showed "the man" who's boss.

 

[emperus]

Well, thank goodness we have people like you to ensure drunk loud obnoxious guys in airports will have their rights to bother other airport patrons protected and that the jackboot police pigs won't interfere with his "rights" to do so. Just what those of us who travel often need, thanks for standing up for the "little guy." You really showed "the man" who's boss.

This post is confusing or moreso confused. The moment he was tackled what was his behavior that made the arrest necessary?

 

[glenn1]

This post is confusing or moreso confused. The moment he was tackled what was his behavior that made the arrest necessary?

He and his buddy had already caused enough of a disturbance that another airport customer complained. Asking someone to leave is easier than arresting them for public intoxication or disturbing the peace. Rudeguy and others are supporing drunken boorish jerks and their "rights" to be a PITA to others just to stick it to police officers they have a hard-on against. The whole tacking and whatnot, I have no qualms with people questioning.

 

[emperus]

He and his buddy had already caused enough of a disturbance that another airport customer complained. Asking someone to leave is easier than arresting them for public intoxication or disturbing the peace. Rudeguy and others are supporing drunken boorish jerks and their "rights" to be a PITA to others just to stick it to police officers they have a hard-on against. The whole tacking and whatnot, I have no qualms with people questioning.

Again, you seem to be stitching together different moments in time. In the video we saw, the police gave no commands to leave, no commands that he would arrest the guy, he just up and tackled the guy who was walking away after what seemed like a very reasonable conversation.

You seem to make this about the police asking him to leave, when we don't really have any information about that and what seemingly has nothing to do with what we witnessed in the video.

Again, I believe a cop's duty should be to maintain law and order. I believe you should arrest people only if they present you no other alternative. It isn't to teach someone a lesson or because ur pride is wounded. In this instance the man gave the cop another alternative by peacefully walking away. He could have followed him and/or gave him a verbal warning to leave or be arrested. He did neither. He took the route that could have caused physical injury and economic damage to the guy.

 

[rudeguy]

He and his buddy had already caused enough of a disturbance that another airport customer complained. Asking someone to leave is easier than arresting them for public intoxication or disturbing the peace. Rudeguy and others are supporing drunken boorish jerks and their "rights" to be a PITA to others just to stick it to police officers they have a hard-on against. The whole tacking and whatnot, I have no qualms with people questioning.

Please show where this guy caused a disturbance.
Please show where this guy was loud, drunk or obnoxious.
Please show where this guy"stuck it to" the police officer.


You are arguing against facts that don't exist. These are the facts:

Guy was standing in line
Different guy had been drinking
Cops ask both guys to leave
Sober guy decides to get name and badge number of cop since he had done nothing wrong
Cop tackles and assaults guy for no reason
Cop holds the guy in jail with no charges for no reason

 

[KK]

based on the short clip, the cop deserves to die. Make's me wonder if there is more to it.