San Francisco Cop Attacks Man for Recording, Jails him Overnight on No Charges

[BoberFett]

No, that isn't a lawful order. But, of course, you already knew that.

Why not?

In your estimation, why is ordering a citizen who has not been involved in any illegal activity being ordered to leave an airport lawful, but telling you to gobble his knob is not?

Please refer me to the law which gave the cop the power to remove someone from the airport.

 

[xBiffx]

Why not?

In your estimation, why is ordering a citizen who has not been involved in any illegal activity being ordered to leave an airport lawful, but telling you to gobble his knob is not?

Please refer me to the law which gave the cop the power to remove someone from the airport.

Now you are just being deliberately obtuse.

California is one of the broadest states for this type of law.

148. (a) (1) Every person who willfully resists, delays, or obstructs any public officer, peace officer, or an emergency medical technician, as defined in Division 2.5 (commencing with Section 1797) of the Health and Safety Code, in the discharge or attempt to discharge any duty of his or her office or employment, when no other punishment is prescribed, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed one year, or by both that fine and imprisonment.

 

[glenn1]

Sigh....

Dude, you didn't even read what you just posted. Southwest Airline employees didn't allow him to board and since he was accused of being intoxicated it was trepassing to remain since being intoxicated is an offense in the SFO airport. The man's protestation that he wasn't drinking is irrelevant, he was asked to leave by the Southwest airline staff and thus the police were giving a completely lawful order.

 

[BoberFett]

Now you are just being deliberately obtuse.

California is one of the broadest states for this type of law.

Good for you, you can link to irrelevant law.

What duty was the cop performing when he told this guy to leave the airport with no cause?

Also, LOL at your sig. "Molon Labe", as Biff kowtows like a whipped puppy to anything the police want to do to him.

 

[rudeguy]

Dude, you didn't even read what you just posted. Southwest Airline employees didn't allow him to board and since he was accused of being intoxicated it was trepassing to remain since being intoxicated is an offense in the SFO airport. The man's protestation that he wasn't drinking is irrelevant, he was asked to leave by the Southwest airline staff and thus the police were giving a completely lawful order.

He was not asked to leave by SW. He was told he would have to take a 5am flight. SW did not ask him to leave.

 

[rudeguy]

Good for you, you can link to irrelevant law.

What duty was the cop performing when he told this guy to leave the airport with no cause?

Also, LOL at your sig. "Molon Labe", as Biff kowtows like a whipped puppy to anything the police want to do to him.

Yep

And he still hasn't explained how police can arrest you with no "proof" of a crime.

 

[xBiffx]

Good for you, you can link to irrelevant law.

What duty was the cop performing when he told this guy to leave the airport with no cause?

Also, LOL at your sig. "Molon Labe", as Biff kowtows like a whipped puppy to anything the police want to do to him.

The cop was responding to a complaint. The man wasn't being allowed to board his plane. The police saw fit to remove him from the airport. Without knowing all the details, my guess is his behavior was suspect. He was probably a bit angry, who wouldn't be. In any event, he no longer had a reason to be there because he wasn't boarding a plane and was no longer a passenger.

You are a complete asshole, by the way.

 

[glenn1]

Yep

And he still hasn't explained how police can arrest you with no "proof" of a crime.

You're being obtuse. Police asked him to leave the premises because he was intoxicated and once he didn't it was trespassing. Once again people with anti-police views are completely ignoring any information which is inconvenient to their agenda.

 

[xBiffx]

Yep

And he still hasn't explained how police can arrest you with no "proof" of a crime.

Do I really need to explain law 101 with you. I guess so. Probable cause is not proof of anything and probable cause is all they police need to arrest you. That's why the people they arrest are referred to as suspects. Stop being a dumbass.

 

[xBiffx]

You're being obtuse. Police asked him to leave the premises because he was intoxicated and once he didn't it was trespassing. Once again people with anti-police views are completely ignoring any information which is inconvenient to their agenda.

Exactly. While being assholes to those who are pointing out the facts regarding the laws in this country.

It's not our faults, its not the police's fault. If you don't like what we are saying, talk to your lawmakers.

 

[rudeguy]

You're being obtuse. Police asked him to leave the premises because he was intoxicated and once he didn't it was trespassing. Once again people with anti-police views are completely ignoring any information which is inconvenient to their agenda.

If the police asked him to leave, couldn't he just say no?

 

[xBiffx]

If the police asked him to leave, couldn't he just say no?

He can say whatever he wants. But if he refuses to obey that order, he is breaking the law and is subject to arrest.

 

[Mai72]

As Americans maybe we need to keep our heads down and mouths shut!

A "YES SIR" and a "NO SIR" should be the extent of our conservation to police, or else you will get a beat down.

 

[rudeguy]

He can say whatever he wants. But if he refuses to obey that order, he is breaking the law and is subject to arrest.

Is English not your native language?

Asking someone to do something is not the same thing as ordering them.

 

[xBiffx]

Is English not your native language?

Asking someone to do something is not the same thing as ordering them.

When a cop says you have to leave, he isn't asking.

 

[rudeguy]

When a cop says you have to leave, he isn't asking.

make up your mind...was he asked to leave or ordered to leave?

You keep changing your argument. I'm talking about this real situation that happened. Just admit you were proven wrong and leave the thread. Its that easy man.

 

[zinfamous]

Do you people ever not just talk out of your asses?

Well, I prefer this method of discourse.

If I find myself speaking with someone I don't like, then projecting information from my butthole creates a far less tolerable odor than merely speaking out of an unwashed mouth. This very effectively discourages the individual from staying within conversational distance.

 

[xBiffx]

make up your mind...was he asked to leave or ordered to leave?

You keep changing your argument. I'm talking about this real situation that happened. Just admit you were proven wrong and leave the thread. Its that easy man.

Make up the mind, are you reading the story, or aren't you.

When Youmans told them he had not been drinking, six San Francisco cops marched up and ordered both men to leave the airport.

Even if a cop says to you "Sir, can you please leave?" you should treat that as an order and not a question. Any reasonable person would and I can guarantee a judge would.

Just admit you are an idiot. Wait, you already have, multiple times.

 

[rudeguy]

Make up the mind, are you reading the story, or aren't you.



Even if a cop says to you "Sir, can you please leave?" you should treat that as an order and not a question. Any reasonable person would and I can guarantee a judge would.

Just admit you are an idiot. Wait, you already have, multiple times.

So you are saying there is no difference between a request and an order?

 

[emperus]

A lot of you on here scare the shit out of me. It is like you are bred to be subjugated. And it's people like you that are empaneled on these juries that give these cops the free reign to do this kind of bullshit.

From the video we saw, no matter what he said to the cop or the cop said to him prior to the arrest, the moment he turned around to walk away, there is no reason for the cop to tackle and arrest him. If there are any other facts that come out, then you can argue then, but to come to the defense of this cop based on this video is asinine.

Btw, if you know any cop who you can speak to candidly, ask them what happens to people who ask for their id's... Maybe, you'll change ur opinion of this incident then.

 

[xBiffx]

So you are saying there is no difference between a request and an order?

I'm saying you are a fucking retard.

 

[xBiffx]

A lot of you on here scare the shit out of me. It is like you are bred to be subjugated. And it's people like you that are empaneled on these juries that give these cops the free reign to do this kind of bullshit.

From the video we saw, no matter what he said to the cop or the cop said to him prior to the arrest, the moment he turned around to walk away, there is no reason for the cop to tackle and arrest him. If there are any other facts that come out, then you can argue then, but to come to the defense of this cop based on this video is asinine.

Btw, if you know any cop who you can speak to candidly, ask them what happens to people who ask for their id's... Maybe, you'll change ur opinion of this incident then.

People who think they can do whatever they want, without question and without consequences are what baffle me.

People in here are making a beef with cops when their beef is with others, i.e. the people who write and pass the laws.

 

[emperus]

People who think they can do whatever they want, without question and without consequences are what baffle me.

People in here are making a beef with cops when their beef is with others, i.e. the people who write and pass the laws.

Are you brain dead? Show me a law that says a cop can tackle someone who is walking away from him for no apparent reason other than asking him his badge number?

 

[xBiffx]

Are you brain dead? Show me a law that says a cop can tackle someone who is walking away from him for no apparent reason other than asking him his badge number?

Are you blind, or are you just going to ignore the fact that the man was already ordered to leave the airport and failed to comply?

 

[glenn1]

So you are saying there is no difference between a request and an order?

Yeah, in one case the cop says "pretty please with sugar on top" and the other he doesn't.