San Francisco all but completely legalizes marajuana

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: alien42

Originally posted by: notfred
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Basically, if you want to smoke weed on private property, the police are officially supposed to not give a crap and ignore it.

good for them, now they can concentrate on real crimes

Like people being shot during marajuana deals.

nobodys getting shot for a couple dimesacks. if your pushing pounds its becomes a big money issue and you have to assume that risk.

If it was legal to grow your own there would be no risk.

 

[Vic]

This isn't legalization. It's effectively decriminalization for private, personal use. I signed a petition for a similar law here in Portland, but unfortunately it didn't pass. There's not enough law enforcement resources for the real criminals, so it makes no sense for the police to waste what little they have on dimebaggers and recreational users.

 

[crownjules]

Originally posted by: Netopia
What will probably happen is that the Feds will pull federal funding from the state and tell them that unless they get their cities under control, they will not be getting the funding back. They'll make the state enforce the rules and use money as the power to get them to do what the Feds want.

Joe

I know this is what the Feds will likely do should things get out of control and/or they don't come to realize the advantages of this, and that pisses me off. The people of the country (or city or state), by an obvious majority, vote to implement something and then the Feds say "Too bad, tough luck, we don't like it so screw you and change it back to the way it was or else."

This is why the drinking age is now 21. It used to be 18. But then the Feds pressured all the states into raising it to 21 or else they'd cut highway funding.

 

[GZeus]

Oh no! MaryJane leads to declining morality. Quick, broadcast FAUX News 24/7 and scare them straight before SF becomes a haven for people seeking to escape the repression of mid-America!!

Seriously... it is way less harmful than the legal drugs (caffeine, alcohol, tobacco, meds) but, it doesn't generate taxes so there is zero political motivation to legalize it.

 

[randay]

stoners, gays... pedophiles are next.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: Netopia
What will probably happen is that the Feds will pull federal funding from the state and tell them that unless they get their cities under control, they will not be getting the funding back. They'll make the state enforce the rules and use money as the power to get them to do what the Feds want.

Joe

They'll probably save money on not running the thousands of people through the court and prison system, but not enough to make up for federal funding if it's cut.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: GZeus
Oh no! MaryJane leads to declining morality. Quick, broadcast FAUX News 24/7 and scare them straight before SF becomes a haven for people seeking to escape the repression of mid-America!!

Seriously... it is way less harmful than the legal drugs (caffeine, alcohol, tobacco, meds) but, it doesn't generate taxes so there is zero political motivation to legalize it.

There no reason why marijuana couldn't generate taxes if legalized. It's just as hard to brew your own beer as it is grow decent weed, but beer revenues never seem to lack.

I think -- at this point -- it has a lot more to do with the government admitting that it was wrong than anything else.

 

[crownjules]

Originally posted by: GZeus
Seriously... it is way less harmful than the legal drugs (caffeine, alcohol, tobacco, meds) but, it doesn't generate taxes so there is zero political motivation to legalize it.

It doesn't generate taxes because it is illegal and therefore bought and sold underground. Obviously, no sales/sin tax can be charged and very few people claim drug profits on their income taxes.

If it were legal, the government would make a good deal of bank on this no doubt, not to mention the countless millions they save in law enforcement and propaganda.

 

[GZeus]

Originally posted by: randay
stoners, gays... pedophiles are next.

Keep that line of uhmm... "thought" going. Your radio talk show is virtually guaranteed!

 

[mundane]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: GZeus
Oh no! MaryJane leads to declining morality. Quick, broadcast FAUX News 24/7 and scare them straight before SF becomes a haven for people seeking to escape the repression of mid-America!!

Seriously... it is way less harmful than the legal drugs (caffeine, alcohol, tobacco, meds) but, it doesn't generate taxes so there is zero political motivation to legalize it.

There no reason why marijuana couldn't generate taxes if legalized. It's just as hard to brew your own beer as it is grow decent weed, but beer revenues never seem to lack.

I think -- at this point -- it has a lot more to do with the government admitting that it was wrong than anything else.

Every administration has been quick to acknowledge mistakes, especially the current one.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: randay
stoners, gays... pedophiles are next.

We're talking about San Francisco, not the offices of Republican Congressman or the pews in an Evangelical Church.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: GZeus

Originally posted by: randay
stoners, gays... pedophiles are next.

Keep that line of uhmm... "thought" going. Your radio talk show is virtually guaranteed!

:laugh:

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: randay
stoners, gays... pedophiles are next.

*troll alert*

 

[senseamp]

Maybe I move to SF

 

[Estrella]

I do not care what people do as long as it does not hinder job performance, cause long term health problems, impedes on the health of others by direct consumption or under the influence thereof.

Have at it.

 

[TheNinja]

Perhaps I will take the 45 minute drive over there soon.

 

[Injury]

Wouldn't state and federal laws supercede this?

 

[Red Dawn]

It's not going to make any difference to those who have to take Drug tests as part of the terms of their employment.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Ryan
I agree with the above - I'd rather my tax dollars be spent preventing a taking care of real crimes.

I agree as well. Props to SF for being realistic.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: GZeus
Oh no! MaryJane leads to declining morality. Quick, broadcast FAUX News 24/7 and scare them straight before SF becomes a haven for people seeking to escape the repression of mid-America!!

Seriously... it is way less harmful than the legal drugs (caffeine, alcohol, tobacco, meds) but, it doesn't generate taxes so there is zero political motivation to legalize it.

There no reason why marijuana couldn't generate taxes if legalized. It's just as hard to brew your own beer as it is grow decent weed, but beer revenues never seem to lack.

I think -- at this point -- it has a lot more to do with the government admitting that it was wrong than anything else.

Every administration has been quick to acknowledge mistakes, especially the current one.

This is a level of mistake far deeper than the adminstrative level. Millions have been fined, bankrupted, and imprisoned. Millions more have profited through asset forfeiture and through just ordinary law enforcement occupations. Legalization will require something America is not ready to do yet -- apologize.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
It's not going to make any difference to those who have to take Drug tests as part of the terms of their employment.

I don't see an issue with that. You don't go to prison for not getting a job.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Wow, something good finally comes out of Northern California...

 

[40Hands]

This is good. Complete legalization (or at least decriminalization) of marijuana in the US is going to take a lot of small steps to become a reality.

 

[mwtgg]

If marijuana were completely legalized, the governments would make a KILLING on taxes. Right now, states have ungodly high taxes on cigarettes and Pennslyvania levies 18% on alcohol PLUS a sales tax of 6% (generally).

So really, this is just one step in the process and it's a good one. Marijuana never hurt anyone and it's flat out stupid to hassle anyone over it.

 

[Old Hippie]

Originally posted by: Netopia
What will probably happen is that the Feds will pull federal funding from the state and tell them that unless they get their cities under control, they will not be getting the funding back. They'll make the state enforce the rules and use money as the power to get them to do what the Feds want.

Not probably, but definately. Same thing that has happened with DUI laws, speed limits, drinking age..........