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San Diego 3200+ 3500+ or 3700+?

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Silimike

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I'm trying to optimize how I spend my money. I'm basically a gamer so speed is important. But I notice there's a big price increase going from the 3500 to the 3700..

Just how much faster is the 3200 then the 3500, and then going to the 3700? I couldn't find any benchmarks. I'm just about to get the 3500.. and one guy tells me 'it's not that much faster then the 3200' and another goes 'Might as well spend the money and go 3500'.

Any advice?

Also, I have an AGP 6800 GT so I need a agp 939 motherboard. Most are telling me A8V deluxe, is that the way to go?

Muchos Thankos!
 
umm, someone else can talk about the cpu's im to lazy. but i can tell you, that you dont want the a8v deluxe. i have it, and im not EXTREMELY happy with it, though it has served me well. get an msi k8n neo2 platinum.

ok fine. it really depends on how much you want to spend. are you overclocking? if you can, get the 3700+ SD. it overclocks well, and performs well at stock. the San Diegos are 200mhz slower than the venices, so a 3500+ venice runs at 2.2ghz and a 3500+ SD runs at 2.0ghz but the SD's have twice the L2 cache.
 
motherboard = MSI K8N neo2 . trustt me i have one and they are good OCers not to mention easy to understand in the BIOS.

I would probably say go with the 3700+ SD as it is able to reach quite high overclocks like 2.8 ish .. this is if you have the cash tht is

all in all that would be a killer rig .. 😀
 
Nonsense. The Asus A8V Deluxe is a much better product than the buggy and ill-tempered Neo2 Platinum. I have the A8V Deluxe and love it. The VIA K8T800 Pro chipset is mature and stable as a rock. Asus delivers when it comes to BIOS updates and support (for instance, the A8V Deluxe already supports the dual core processors...MSI, meanwhile, sits wringing its hands in testing). Go with Asus.

As for the processors, go with a 3200+ Venice (or even a 3000+ Venice). The extra cash you'll spend on higher-clocked single core CPUs would be better spent on a nice dual-core X2 processor next year (or beyond). Save your money for where it counts. The 3200+ overclocks well, if that's important to you, and you'll want dual-core later on when more and more apps support it. There's no reason to pay a premium for a 3700+ when the future is in dual core computing.

 
I'm not so sure I wanna spend the extra money on the San Diego.

I'd like to see some numbers on the 3500+ SD vs the 3500+ Venice. I cant imagine the 1 mb cache is that big of a difference.

For OC purposes, it's a box of chocolates for me. I've had good luck and bad luck.. The 2500 barton I have now would barely overclock at all, which is pretty odd because it was supposed to be an OC fiend.

I'd love to go NFORCE4 on the mb, but I just bought a 6800GT agp a few months ago. LOL. More then the cpu and mb put together.
 
The Venice and San Diego are both great ocers, so if you can oc a cheap Venice even to 2400, you probably won't be CPU limited in games and you'll save yourself several hundred dollars, with which you buy buy that new Nforce 4/vid card. 😉
 


Nonsense. The Asus A8V Deluxe is a much better product than the buggy and ill-tempered Neo2 Platinum.
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IA K8T800 Pro chipset is mature and stable as a rock.
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OH?!?! And I assume the nForce 3 chipset is not mature.. Get over it dude..

Neo2 is the best AGP board out for the A64.

DFI is the best nForce 4
 
i think the asus and the msi have their drawbacks. but my asus is nice, and stable as a rock, as well as a sweet overclocker. i can easily max out the htt. however, asus's recent attemps at bios updates have been horrible failures. they have memory divider problems, and all sorts of bugs. they also drop benchmark scores. the new bios's for the revision E chips completely suck. i dont use them. but Silimike will have to. which is a big reason he should get the neo2.
 
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Originally posted by: bjc112
OH?!?! And I assume the nForce 3 chipset is not mature
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Not if the best example of that is the MSI Neo2...what a POS :thumbsdown: 😛
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Can you push your HTT over 300 with you Av8? 315?

Doubtful..

The only downside to the Neo2 are the locations for thr IDE ports (stacked ) and SATA ports 1 and 2 aren't locked, but I only have 1 SATA device anyhow..
 
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DFI is the best nForce 4
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I agree that the DFI NF4s have the most flexible overclocking features by far, but until the so-called "cold boot" issue is resolved, I'm staying away.

 
I've got a 3700 San Diego and a 3200 Vience. On default voltage (1.36) with my 3700 I can get around 2.65 Ghz with an XP-90. With my Vience also on default voltage I get exactly the same result. They are both on DFI Ultra-D's, but the 3200 is on stock cooling. I know both of my chips are on stock voltage and therefore would clock much higer is I pumped up the juice.

Overall I'd say I'm more happy with my 3200 Vience, it reaches the same speeds and the extra cache of the SD is negligible (for my uses at least). Furthermore the extra $130 dollars less it costs is a huge benifit.
 
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